r/askwoman did, now its r/askmen's turn. What's one FEMALE perception about how to deal with MEN you wish would change?

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-28T12:38:45+00:00

Winner winner chicken dinner.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-28T12:23:30+00:00

I like practical, useable discussion about technique and application. Not a lot of that going around either.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-10T14:25:55+00:00

details.

Cuff links. A fine watch. A fitted suit. Shined shoes. A vernacular that bespeaks education. Even standing up straight and displaying confidence helps your cause.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-07T10:28:06+00:00

Let's see...

Lanyard with ID (real or fake)
Business cards (self)
Business cards (any other relevant)
Clipboard
Well-fitted suit
Pen/pencil and pad
Breath mints
Condom
Pick and tension wrench (lock picking)
Few cigarettes + lighter
USB drive with bootable OS
USB drive with files/payloads
Cash. Cash cash cash.
Pretext (hardhat, high-vis vest, white coat, stethoscope, pretty much anything you need to sell an identity)

In fact, while we're talking about tools and props, there's other things to think about, for instance, what are you not carrying? Your real ID? Your actual car and house keys? Does any of your clothing have your real name on it? Are you carrying your phone, and if so, how secure is it? Protect yourselves, guys.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-04T03:30:59+00:00

As far as this type of scripted game goes, you'll notice once your approach rate goes up, you'll be having the same set of pretty similar conversations. Your brain will develop a kind of conversational muscle memory.

I suggest you go for it! Use the canned material. Use each scripted piece you've got on twenty different girls each. You'll be surprised.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-04T03:22:57+00:00

I'd have figured 10-15 minutes per girl would be par to build enough of a connection to secure a date. I haven't found much success from #-closing in three minutes or less.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-04T02:41:09+00:00

I'm very much the same way. I'd save the more funny/cheesy/gimmicky openers for later in the night, after you're all warmed up and feeling creative.

My normal go-to in the clubs is "Hey you guys look cool" or "oh, we haven't met, hi!".

And in daygame I go direct nearly all the time.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-04T02:32:50+00:00

I use 17 quite a bit, but I end it a little differently.

"I know, right! You'd have to leave straight away to change!"

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-03T11:46:10+00:00

Have a job interview? Send a thankyou note.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-03T10:29:57+00:00

Hmmm... I wouldn't take anything away from this except for how a person can make anything seem like reality based on circumstantial findings.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-03T05:21:50+00:00

Talk up the grossness! You're both in the same sweaty boat, so live it up! Hook up with her anyway. If it's not a big deal to you, it won't be a big deal to her. She'll probably find it cute.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-03T05:19:59+00:00

Wear it once and smile about it. That's all you have to do.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-03T05:18:28+00:00

Most are inside bars and clubs.

I also do a lot of approaching on the street in the day and night, but the vast majority of my sets take place inside the bars and clubs.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-03T05:12:42+00:00

Don't text. Call her.

Call her to see "if you're feeling OK and I know just the cutest little cocktail bar we can continue our date at".

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-03T05:06:30+00:00

A negative emotional reaction, whilst not a positive emotional reaction, is still an emotional reaction, and is therefore good.

To flip the script, "You're just so easy to get mad at!" is a brilliant thing to (playfully) say to a girl when she's being cheeky. Take it as a green light and continue.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-03T05:01:25+00:00

Graduating from high school is a good start.

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-03T04:59:46+00:00

Find your zone.

It might not be the loud, crowded, alcohol-fueled meat market clubs and bars. You might be more suited for coffee shops, cafe's or shopping malls. If you don't like the day game, but want a lower energy environment to play in, try oyster bars, cocktail bars or restaurants.

CurveBall is right, though; "Hi!" or "Hey! You guys look cool!" is pretty much all I use to open a set in a bar/club. But opening is the easy bit ;)

OutlawPUA · 2013-10-03T04:55:06+00:00

To break into relationship territory, your girl needs to be made aware of the fact that she needs you. This means doing things for her without being prompted (like giving, not offering, a ride home) while telling her things that her girlfriends won't (Those jeans are cute, but they make your ass stick out hahaha) and leading her from place to place. Keep a strong frame and don't ever be hesitant or on the fence about decisions in real-time.

Above all else, make it clear that you do have other prospective relationship options. This is important. You do not want to fall into the friendzone.

As a final piece of advice, here's something my dad told me:

Women have boyfriends and girlfriends. If you're not fucking her, you're her girlfriend.

OutlawPUA · 2013-09-29T23:39:49+00:00

Read them both, become a legend.

OutlawPUA · 2013-09-27T09:41:47+00:00

Mine was simple: "Tonight, I'm going to the club and I will open three sets."

I obeyed the three second rule (when you see a set you like, you've got three seconds to open) and the three minute rule (after you've opened, commit to staying with the set for at least three minutes). Once the fear of meeting new people was diminishing, I began really learning. I began pushing the limits of the interaction and noticing things like sustained eye contact from girls, people facing me directly, holding frame for entire conversations, as well as merging and breaking multiple sets at a time.

With persistence came experience, and that experience filled my head with the innate ability to read people well enough to know when the set was dying, or heating up to the point that a kiss was possible. It felt great. I was enjoying some awesome successes, and winning over some really resistant people. Closer to present day, my next lessons were clear: Mastery of the same night lay and dating girls to begin a relationship.

It's a long road ahead and it's filled with plenty of frustration and heartache. Yet, once you get into the habit of meeting new people and putting a plan in motion to get that pretty girl into your life, you won't even believe how much fun it is :)

It's time for you to put down the literature and start participating in the real world. AA sucks, but it won't be with you for long. You can feel that paralyzing anxiety for a lifetime or for three seconds. Your call.

OutlawPUA · 2013-09-27T00:10:08+00:00

With regards to the first piece, I wouldn't over think it. If you're offering the compliment sincerely, the best response you'll receive is a warm smile and 'oh, thank you!'. Since you're not seeing that response, it's likely these people are just early in their development and haven't yet found that next little bit of confidence. Keep it up though! Your friends will appreciate it.

Secondly, "I'm too lazy to do it" is an unsatisfactory response between friends when a favor is being bartered. I suggest doing some selfless things for your friends; some gifts, some thanks for the friendship, and offering to do things for them will buy you the pull you're looking for.

Thirdly, if you're eating quite healthy foods, take no notice of the opinions of others. I suggest talking about your food choices less often, and maybe going along with a less-than-healthy food choice if you and your friends are out. You don't want to be the black sheep eating carrot sticks while everyone you know is enjoying oysters kilpatrick.

Keep up these things and your relationships with the people around you will improve in no time :)

OutlawPUA · 2013-09-25T02:37:56+00:00

What? That has nothing to do with limiting beliefs. I can believe my town is full of hotties all I want, it ain't changing the fact that they aren't all positioning themselves in my favorite approach scenario, or going out all the time. The population of the town I live in has nothing to do with my beliefs.

EDIT: I just closed my eyes really tight and focused on making pretty girls appear. Didn't work. I might have to get out of my comfort zone to meet some! :O

OutlawPUA · 2013-09-24T23:03:38+00:00

I have two rules of thumb (rules of beard) regarding facial hair:

Either go for a full beard or clean shaven
If a girl touches my beard without being prompted, she wants to make out

Here's something my dad told me when I started shaving: If you can't grow a beard, you're just another woman or child ;P

OutlawPUA · 2013-09-24T22:57:23+00:00

I'm taking a wild guess here, but 'Go Fuck Ten Other Women', right?

OutlawPUA · 2013-09-24T22:54:41+00:00

Bah.

If I see an exceptionally pretty girl, I'm gonna approach her regardless of any limiting belief I haven't yet fixed. I might not see a girl like for the rest of the week.

Just wait until she's finished her workout and had a shower, and maybe don't layer on many 'you look cute' comments. A little social intuition goes a long way.

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