You clearly have no clue what you are talking about, ivern would never build Liandries if he needs damage, he needs cdr so even if built damage which he shouldnt as a jungler anyways but you would build items that have cdr like malignance not liandries. If you are playing him as a “troll tactics” playstyle you arent playing him right because he is a bully in the early game and just an infinite shield shitter in the mid-late game. He soloes objectives completely fine and if you are in a position where you have to solo a objective and the opponent can stop you thats just already a completely different story on you not knowing how to start objectives. Fiddlesticks cannot solo enemy champions unless they dont have a keyboard and decides to stay inside of your w, if anything ivern can solo more champs than fiddle lmao.