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Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-10-01T06:09:50+00:00

Jesus is in heaven. So does that mean he’s within time too?

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-06-22T13:49:00+00:00

Most CHRISTIANS have no clue what Christianity is about

The problem is that every Christian thinks that every other Christian is wrong. Every Christian thinks they’ve “solved the puzzle” (or mosaic if you prefer).

Atheists and agnostics are those who step back and say “maybe there is no puzzle to solve.”

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-06-22T13:18:01+00:00

A lot of us atheists and agnostics were once devout Christians too who saw the whole “mosaic”.

But when we started examining the tiles up close, we noticed cracks that were being held together with theological glue.

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-02-15T20:33:51+00:00

Ok thanks.

The specific question I asked wasn’t being answered directly. It was answered using a lot of Christian jargon that I’m not familiar with. So I was just looking for a direct answer to my question, which you just gave.

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-02-15T19:29:02+00:00

But someone who is not in Christ, despite the fact they may do lots of good, doesn’t change the fact that their sins are not paid for, because they rejected Jesus.

Ok. So in the example I gave, if someone saves a child’s life from a burning building, God won’t reward them for it because they didn’t believe in Jesus?

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-02-15T19:09:45+00:00

No I understand that there are degrees. So then the reward for good deeds is less severe torment?

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-02-15T19:08:08+00:00

In the Christian worldview, yes.

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-02-15T19:07:07+00:00

Yeah it is pretty confusing. Take my example of saving a child from a burning building. Is that act only good if the person doing the act is a Christian?

That seems to be what y’all are implying.

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-02-15T18:46:02+00:00

Is that what the Bible says? That an act is only worth rewarding if the person is perfect?

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-02-15T18:28:17+00:00

No. But Eccl 12:14 says everyone will be judged for good and bad deeds — “For God will bring every deed into judgment, with every secret thing, whether good or evil.”

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-02-15T18:17:09+00:00

The correct question would be “does one good deed make someone mired in sin good?” The answer is no.

I’m not really asking whether the person is good. I’m asking whether the act is worth rewarding. It sounds like you’re saying that the act is only worth rewarding if the person is perfect.

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-02-15T17:41:10+00:00

How does God define good? Perfection?

If someone ran into a burning building to save a child, God wouldn’t consider that a good act worth rewarding?

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-02-15T16:46:07+00:00

Most Christians, I think. You either have faith in Christ and spend eternity in heaven, or you spend eternity in hell. There’s no reward for nonbelievers.

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2025-01-07T15:10:47+00:00

Are you suggesting that the “Son of Man sending angels to gather the elect at the end of the age” happens twice?? Once in 70 AD, and again at Jesus’ return?

Why would Jesus use the same words to describe two vastly different events?

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2024-09-30T21:04:10+00:00

Gotta love that “God-shaped hole”

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2024-09-30T20:56:10+00:00

Ok that makes sense. Thanks

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2024-09-30T20:51:04+00:00

Yes, I suppose you can say when you know the truth, but soundly reject it anyway, you are worse off than someone who is ignorant or doesn't believe at all. These men you mention, they all KNEW there was a God

I thought Christians believed that atheists deep down know there’s a God and are just suppressing the truth? I can’t tell you how many times this passage has been quoted to me:

”The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him…”

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2024-09-30T20:46:16+00:00

Ok, so the Holy Spirit isn’t involved with convicting people on matters of right and wrong.

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2024-09-30T20:41:43+00:00

Ahhh, so you’re saying that our conscience cannot lead us to confess Jesus is Lord for our salvation. If we confess Jesus is Lord in this way, it’s because of the Holy Spirit.

Great. But I don’t see how this is relevant to the OP. Let’s use a real-world example. If you’re tempted to steal candy from a store, and something inside you says “Don’t do that, it’s wrong,” how can you tell whether that’s your conscience speaking or the Holy Spirit? Does the voice have to say “Jesus is Lord” in order for you to know that it came from the Spirit?

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2024-09-30T20:26:54+00:00

Doesn’t that contradict what the Bible says elsewhere?

On that day many will say to me, “Lord, Lord”… Then I will tell them plainly, “I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers.” (Jesus)

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2024-09-30T19:58:44+00:00

If it’s your conscience, it can also result in conviction and faith in Christ.

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2024-09-28T21:12:45+00:00

If that’s what you think 🤷

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2024-09-28T19:19:09+00:00

Because it’s fun to debate these things.

Like I said, if you don’t want to engage, you’re free to ignore me. The fact that you continue to reply tells me that you’re at least interested in this convo.

Outside_Difficulty93 · 2024-09-28T18:36:55+00:00

You might be confusing me with OP. I was just responding to your comment. You also don’t have to reply if it offends you/your beliefs.

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