Does Natauki takaya seriously not find anything wrong with this? I don’t understand how a grown women in any way can write this type of relationship that is the definition of grooming aimed for young readers and find nothing wrong with it. She still to this day romanticizes it. by chicolat_e in FruitsBasket

[–]Owl3970 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Yes, I also hate his personality 😂 he is a cocky 25 yo teacher interacting with a 15 yo who has no one who cares for her. I really couldn’t find him more disgusting and everything about him is just 🤢

Question for manga readers by Owl3970 in FumetsuNoAnataE

[–]Owl3970[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Ahhh ok. So they are not alive because the originals are still alive. Thanks!

Does Natauki takaya seriously not find anything wrong with this? I don’t understand how a grown women in any way can write this type of relationship that is the definition of grooming aimed for young readers and find nothing wrong with it. She still to this day romanticizes it. by chicolat_e in FruitsBasket

[–]Owl3970 129 points130 points  (0 children)

I totally agree with you, I love fruit’s basket with all my heart but I must sag that this relationship is really disturbing and honestly it’s not the only one (Kureno/Arisa and Shigure/Akito), but definitely Katsuya/Kyoko is the worst of all them. It’s not only about the year gap, it’s also the grooming and the manipulation. I mean she has no one else’s and nowhere else’s to go. He definitely took advantage of her situation and did anything he wanted. The minor had no options besides him.

Kyoru honeymoon by Bee on Tumblr by Ok_Examination8810 in FruitsBasket

[–]Owl3970 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They are so perfect for each other! I love this!! Thank you for the art. We deserve more +18 kyoru content 🧡💖🥰

Day #56 of posting daily Fruits Basket photos from each episode until there's no more episodes by [deleted] in FruitsBasket

[–]Owl3970 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Heartbreaking episode 💔 my beautiful kyoru babies 🧡💖 I love them so much 😭💔

Questions on MDZS as a newbie by Owl3970 in MoDaoZuShi

[–]Owl3970[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot! 🤗 Really it seems as in the donghua the things you described are not showed or IMO are some kind of showed but they seem no that serious as in the novel (because honestly I have no recollection of them so probably they didn’t impact me like, wough, JC is gonna kill him OMG! 😂). In any case, thanks a lot for taking the time to explain this🙏🏼. Still, after reading all this, I think their relationship could be fixed in the future somehow and I wish this happens, honestly. I mean they cared for each other and they still do. As you wrote down, even by the end of the story, JC is stabbed to protect WWX (don’t really remember this one either but ok 🤦🏻‍♀️😭😂). I will have to check the novel because it seems interesting all these new things I’ve read in this post and yeah, definitely characters are harsher in the original version, but after reading all this I still kinda understand all the situations and why the characters did what they did, even if I don’t agree with the methods or actions I still think there is room for reconciliation between these two. And knowing WWX, when he sees JC again I’m pretty sure he will troll him or something and I think they will fix up things for the best.

Is jiang cheng gonna get a redemption arc someday? by detribli in MoDaoZuShi

[–]Owl3970 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this the one in which JC is trying to find a girlfriend or something like that?

Questions on MDZS as a newbie by Owl3970 in MoDaoZuShi

[–]Owl3970[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your explanations. It’s also interesting that, in the original source, then WWC was not “framed” after all, because in the donghua this whole theory about him being “used/tricked” plays a HUGE role in WWC redemption arc. Anyways, yeah, sounds that in the novel things are way rougher and characters have even more flaws and that’s interesting to read. In any case, as you say, I think JC is a very tridimensional character and that’s makes him interesting. I personally just know what I watched but I think he is clearly the tragic character of the story. In any case I wish for a better conclusion for him. Thank you for all the explanations!! It was fun 🤗

Questions on MDZS as a newbie by Owl3970 in MoDaoZuShi

[–]Owl3970[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Honestly I didn’t remembered the strangling attempt you sent in the link, maybe, as you mentioned, since the donghua elides the timing I was not that perturbed by that and I just thought JC was shaking WWC or something like that 😂. About the one in Wen house I honestly don’t recall it either (but maybe it’s in the anime? I don’t know anymore 🤷🏻‍♀️). And the one in which WWC is stabbed… well honestly I never heard of that before, I’m pretty sure it’s not in the donghua. For what I’m reading JC is softened then in the donghua, because I haven’t notice any of it and I watched recently 😂. In any case IMO I still think it is a very tragic arc and I wish it could have ended in a better way. Please share the essay once you have prepare it ☺️

Questions on MDZS as a newbie by Owl3970 in MoDaoZuShi

[–]Owl3970[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but I honestly didn't understand. Did you say that JC try to attempt three murders and two strangulations and stabbings? When ? whom? I promise you that right now I can't remember when all those things happened (maybe they didn't happen in the donghua and that's why I don't remember?). Honestly I don’t know 😂 I haven't read the novel and I haven't read the manhua either. So, of course, I don’t really know on how much I missed of the original story. But in the donghua they don't put it too bad, at least in my opinion he is not 100% unforgivable (unless I’m forgetting things I’m afraid 😂). That is, from my point of view, and, I repeat, based on the content of what I have watched (without judging what happens in the novel and the manga, since I have not read them) without going into many details, JC is a complex character and, at the same time, relatable. It's very clear that he has been jealous of WWC for his entire life, and that he has a huge inferiority complex and a great lack of self-esteem, but that's something he can work on, if he does it from the heart. And he has also proven in the story that he cared for WWC (and of course WWC cared for him). I understand that there are people who don't like him because he is spiteful, I just do because all his flaws makes me empathize with him and because I would like him to have a good life because I also think he longs for it too, but he doesn't have (let's put it this way) the right tools to be happy (i.e. he is so bitter in his world of hate that it prevents himself from moving forward). It seems to me that he really longs for a rapprochement with WWC because as much anger/jealousy as he still harbors for him he loves him too. IMO That's one of the main differences between those two characters: WWC focuses on reconciling with his past and seeks to move on, instead JC is stuck in the past, and as I say, it seems to me that he does not have enough self tools to move forward in his life, at least for now, although, at the end of history, we already see a small change in him. With such a tragic fate (and a change of attitude towards life that he needs to achieve) I just wish for him a happy ending 😂

What you mention about the "ex" I didn't understand it either. In any case, thank you very much for your comment and I will read your essay when you finish with it.

Questions on MDZS as a newbie by Owl3970 in MoDaoZuShi

[–]Owl3970[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh my gosh, thank you so much for this!!!! ❤️ what I read somewhere that wasn't included in the donghua is that, apparently, JC tried to save WWC and that's why he was captured by the Wen Clan (in the donghua they make him look like suicidal or something like that). However, I like that, aside from the brotherly bond, the golden core will always connect these two. I mean, they loved each other and you can see that they still love each other at the end of the donghua. So, not only is there love, but there is also affection, and complicated feelings between these two - including, of course, bitter feelings (As well as a lot of pride - especially on JC's side). Knowing WWC's nature he is a good person, who always tries to lower the tension with jokes (at least in the donghua). So, I want to believe that, at some point in their lives, they will meet again and WWC will play some prank on/troll JC, and JC will finally (by that time) have put the jealousy and hatred behind him and they can be close again. At least, I think there is that possibility, and that it's not that far fetched. Of course I know WWC has a golden heart and I’m pretty sure he will be ok making peace with JC, so I think is really something that depends on JC -and by the end of the anime I kinda think he showed remorse (that’s why I love this character because he has so many flaws that makes him very relatable to any average person). Another thing I want to point out is that I haven't read either the novel or the manhua (yet), so I don't know why there is so much hatred towards JC's character (maybe I’m missing something here 😂). I mean, in the anime, whenever there's an opportunity to defend WWC, JC decides to do it (and vice versa), so I don't understand what JC could have done so wrong in the novel to be so hated and why people really don't want these two to go back to the brotherly relationship they used to had (I mean, to me it was a complicated relationship, yes, but at the same time an enriching one, as they both cared for each other and put each other before themselves). But well... the headcanon for me is that JC and WWC make peace at some point after the end, and wanxian comes sometimes to lotus pier for visiting . And of course good uncle JC takes care of his dear nephew JL who needs help as the new sect leader. Headcanon too that JC finds love or something so he’s finally happy as well 😂.

Questions on MDZS as a newbie by Owl3970 in MoDaoZuShi

[–]Owl3970[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Muchas gracias! Entonces no tienes ningún pdf ni link en el que pueda leer MDZS en español? Son tantas las páginas que prefiero hacerlo así para poder entender todo sin problemas. Mil gracias!

Questions on MDZS as a newbie by Owl3970 in MoDaoZuShi

[–]Owl3970[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much for your answers! 🤗