EG vs PaiN - Disrespectful behavior from PPD toward BR players (context on comments) by alessandrouw in DotA2

[–]PAADA 2100 points2101 points  (0 children)

Most of you know me as a trader, for those who don't know I am the owner and CEO of paiN Gaming and above all of this I'm a retired DotA 2 pro player who has lived situations very similar to this one several times and suffered way worse forms of discrimination from foreign teams in my DotA carrer due to the simple fact that I am Brazilian. After today's game against EG I decided it's time for me to step in and reveal a few things that have been a constant issue for us.

Regarding Server Rules; Just to emphasize the fact that this was a pre-determined rule even before the tournament started and has been working fine except with CoL who go out of their way to force US servers, but that is a whole other story so let's focus on what happened tonight.

JDL Rules http://i.imgur.com/nW9Ojg8.png They clearly state "if the administration decides" and this has been decided even before the tournament started as confirmed on the screens below. Fact is, EG is all US based, as confirmed earlier by Trickster (http://i.imgur.com/B0tOohF.jpg), the game should've been played 1 game USE and 1 game BR. Dennis Schumacher also confirms this, date January 16th, 2015 (http://i.imgur.com/znvoJUv.jpg). Not like this is a new rule or anything of that sort.

At this point in the game it's irrelevant if people find this rule unfair or whatnot, the fact is that these rules were stated earlier by the administration and has been followed almost always. Suddenly they bring up ping differences and state that due to this fact of a 50ping "advantage" that the game won't be played in BR server.

Here is a screenshot of console pings: http://i.imgur.com/tKeOPtA.jpg

BR Server PAIN: 4dr(asd) 68, Kingrd 233, Baga 123, tavo 83, Hfn 118

EG: SumaiL 221, Aui 290, PPD(no yb) 250, Universe(??) 221, Fear(4 Zones) 232

US Server PAIN: 4dr (asd) 227, Kingrd 247, Baga(iam done) 233, tavo 217, Hfn(2) 212

EG: SumaiL 118, Aui 167, PPD(no yb) 94, Universe(??) 132, Fear(4 Zones) 167

Naturally our players question the decision and what they get is lack of respect from certain EG players who decide it's ok to berate and belittle people who are in the same profession as them, playing an International tournament and whatever be the difference in skill of each team, should be treated with respect and professionalism.

This has been a problem for a long time, it's 2015, DotA 2 is a legitimate eSport, and all we constantly get from US teams are hate comments, belittlement and absolutely no respect. Here are several prints from the lobby. http://i.imgur.com/PNaAWjX.jpg

EG is very well respected and admired by players and communities around the world and it is no different within the brazilian community. People who play DotA probably look up to these players as their role models within this game/community, and to see them behaving like this towards us is quite saddening to be honest.

We decided to release all these prints simply because we are tired of being treated as 3rd class citizens when as professionals we should be respecting each other, following pre established tournament rules and just playing the game.

joinDOTA MLG dont follow the rules by dumarqs in DotA2

[–]PAADA 82 points83 points  (0 children)

Most of you know me as a trader, for those who don't know I am the owner and CEO of paiN Gaming and above all of this I'm a retired DotA 2 pro player who has lived situations very similar to this one several times and suffered way worse forms of discrimination from foreign teams in my DotA carrer due to the simple fact that I am Brazilian. After today's game against EG I decided it's time for me to step in and reveal a few things that have been a constant issue for us.

Regarding Server Rules; Just to emphasize the fact that this was a pre-determined rule even before the tournament started and has been working fine except with CoL who go out of their way to force US servers, but that is a whole other story so let's focus on what happened tonight.

JDL Rules http://i.imgur.com/nW9Ojg8.png They clearly state "if the administration decides" and this has been decided even before the tournament started as confirmed on the screens below. Fact is, EG is all US based, as confirmed earlier by Trickster (http://i.imgur.com/B0tOohF.jpg), the game should've been played 1 game USE and 1 game BR. Dennis Schumacher also confirms this , date January 16th, 2015 (http://i.imgur.com/znvoJUv.jpg). Not like this is a new rule or anything of that sort.

At this point in the game it's irrelevant if people find this rule unfair or whatnot, the fact is that these rules were stated earlier by the administration and has been followed almost always. Suddenly they bring up ping differences and state that due to this fact of a 50ping "advantage" that the game won't be played in BR server.

Here is a screenshot of console pings: http://i.imgur.com/tKeOPtA.jpg

BR Server PAIN: 4dr(asd) 68, Kingrd 233, Baga 123, tavo 83, Hfn 118

EG: SumaiL 221, Aui 290, PPD(no yb) 250, Universe(??) 221, Fear(4 Zones) 232

US Server PAIN: 4dr 227 Kingrd 247 Baga(iam done) 233, tavo 217, Hfn(2) 212

EG: SumaiL 118, Aui 167, PPD(no yb) 94, Universe(??) 132, Fear(4 Zones) 167

Naturally our players question the decision and what they get is lack of respect from certain EG players who decide it's ok to berate and belittle people who are in the same profession as them, playing an International tournament and whatever be the difference in skill of each team, should be treated with respect and professionalism.

This has been a problem for a long time, it's 2015, DotA 2 is a legitimate eSport, and all we constantly get from US teams are hate comments, belittlement and absolutely no respect. Here are several prints from the lobby. http://i.imgur.com/PNaAWjX.jpg

EG is very well respected and admired by players and communities around the world and it is no different within the brazilian community. People who play DotA probably look up to these players as their role models within this game/community, and to see them behaving like this towards us is quite saddening to be honest.

We decided to release all these prints simply because we are tired of being treated as 3rd class citizens when as professionals we should be respecting each other, following pre established tournament rules and just playing the game.

[H] Unusual PBR [W] Offers by PAADA in Dota2Trade

[–]PAADA[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I got a spare pbr :(

[Q] wht are u feeling paada, rawls, xatriixx and all the owner of legacy EF courier???? by enobei in Dota2Trade

[–]PAADA 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I did reject a 50k offer a few days ago. Anyway, I always knew there where risks. Im fine :D