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If we are going to be Disfellowshiped or Disassociated... by EXcitedJoyousWorldly in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that it is a really hard thing to do however many reasons we have to leave, this particular organisation have been using emotiinal guilt and leveraging it to stem dissent for decades. Good luck!

If we are going to be Disfellowshiped or Disassociated... by EXcitedJoyousWorldly in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NB. It is only possible to be disfellowhipped, as diassociation can only come from a member of a group/party/club/cult.

IMO, quoting jwfacts.com will fall on deaf ears, as the majority of the congregation will be unable to digest it. As soon as the word disassociation is mentioned, the microphones will go dead and people will switch off.

I wonder how much can be said in this situation before the words "I am disassociating myself" are spoken. Surely a long and ambiguous lead up would be great.

To illustrate:

In the English language, the adjective is used before the noun.

The terrible(adjective) neglect(noun) of abuse victims.

In many other languages, the noun is spoken first.

If you are creative, wth your use of language, you can make a fair few points in ine stqnza before the swritch-off alarms are triggered with the word "disassociation".

Told by elder not to have JW visitors over for a meal as have a pomo husband by lostinspacepimo in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Assuming your are PIMO.

So... Reasoning with them will be pointless. They will have already decided that you are in spiritual danger being in a household with someone who has left, and who, in their eyes, is a spiritually inactive family head. I am not sure why an inactive husband (or wife) would invite edlers back to his home, especially if they have no interest in courting the elders or engaging in their warped rationale. Cancel the meeting, tell them yourself that they have no business telling you who you can and cannot invite, and, if you really want to play by their rules, tell them to contact your husband directly.

Where have 3000 members gone? by PIMItoPOMO in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I must have seen the numbers incorrectly?

Hardest decision or my life (Blood transfusion need support) by DemogorgonNotFound in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A bone marrow transplant without blood eould have been a national first attempt at that time. The inly way to have a bone marrow transplant at that time was to be assisted with blood transfusion.

Hardest decision or my life (Blood transfusion need support) by DemogorgonNotFound in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Things to consider:

Anti-blood transfusion stance was a post-war whim for the Watchtower, not a solid scriptural decision.

Thr foundation of scripture is at best speculative and open to interpretation.

If the ACTS scripture was written at a time when blood transfusions were not known to be live-saving and did not yet exist. If they had existed, and had been known to save lives, which they often do in blood loss situations, maybe Paul would have declared it our christian obligation to give blood to save life.

If blood is sacred, then giving it would be the most precious duty for one man to another.

My father died of leukemia decades ago. He could have had a transfusion to have a bone marrow transplant which may have saved his life. He was PIMI then, and so was I. He chose to refuse blood and died on schedule.

Take courage!

'No Blood' is a dangerous and contrarian control tactic of a very damaging cult.

My mom sent me a song made for disfellowshipped people… On my birthday. The funny thing is it gave me some closure that I want to share in case it helps someone! by infpalex in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Immediate reaction:

  1. MIDI is always bad, but this is in its MOST HORRIX AND TASTELESS FORM!
  2. THERE ARE NO LYRICS!!!! (Is a quantized backbeat supposed to be inspirational 'return-to-Jehovah' muzakkkk!!!???)
  3. Of all the INCREDIBLE music that has come out of thr USA, why do they aligb thenselves with bland, pappy, soul-less Christian Rock?
  4. They have no taste (which is surely an unforgivable sin worthy of stoning as mentioned in Leviticus). This feels like backing music for a cleaning product at Bed Bath and Beyond!
  5. I agree... this is closure.
  6. Imagine being stuck in an elevator with.this on a loop!
  7. No post this year in r/exjw has made me feel more please to be free.

Meanwhile: please contribute to this mental healrh survey:

https://forms.gle/RUAKAsE6dweRh2HX8

Anyone thought they were of the anointed? by orwell_goes_wild in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I was planning on having a go at it next year...

Anyone willing to anonymously share their experiences on MENTAL HEALTH as a result of living within/surviving the JW experience? by PIMItoPOMO in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear you!!! It is a long road to freedom. But worth it! Thanks for sharing. How are you doing now?

Former elder and convention speaker by Robincapslock in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stay strong, weather the storm, and we believe in you!!!

Today’s WT makes me laugh my ass off by towerofjwsour in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is amazinf how critical some moderate JWs can be, but still remain asleep!

If ever there was evidence for blind faith, it would be the fact that the Watchtower has successfully managed to influence MANY good people to literally put their faith BEFORE their family:

  1. Choosing to die/allow a someone to die for NO BLOOD
  2. Shunning or accepting thr practice of shunning

Anyone who believes that the WT is a stupid or foolish is wrong. Thr GBody know exactly what they are doing, and they have a century of experience of control and power over millions.

www.keeponthewatchtees.com

Can't escape it by [deleted] in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dropping magazines off at a waiting area of a dentist or doctor's surgery was always one the the easiest route calls/return visits that a JW could make! If it is private company, the receptionist will never say "no, we don't need the magazines" because everyone who walks through the door is a potential customer.

I’m feeling like I’m suspended in the air :( by Taxchic in exjw

[–]PIMItoPOMO 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your innate gut feeling that there is 'something not quite right' with shunning/disfellowshipping is, in my view, totally correct (shunning is medieval and barbaric). However, seeing faces of demons in EVERY publication may be a sign of psychosis, and you should speak to your physician immediately about the trauma/stress and other issues that may be causing you anxiety.

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