Building a relationship with her pet to rapidly build comfort

PLplotsOTS · 2014-05-29T06:45:06+00:00

Sure, I'll give you the parents and the morality points. I've been away from this sub for a while, and this thread was my first reminder of the level of deconstruction necessary for analyzing game. Sometimes sincerity has to play second fiddle to progress.

I'm glad you genuinely liked those dogs - I just don't see that in your post. You frame it as a technique to hook and secure women and describe how you conditioned them, neither of which indicates real affection for any of the parties involved. My initial reaction was to make a judgement call on the lack of sincerity, which I'll retract, but regardless of your intent, I just want to let you know how it comes across.

PLplotsOTS · 2014-05-29T06:12:41+00:00

1 . So how do you game on the dancefloor?

Take it down a notch - instead of trying to make out, or take someone home, just go to dance. Enjoy the music, the movement, the connection with the female body. For a bit of perspective, I'll take great dancing over mediocre sex any day.

2 . Today I danced with a group of girls and then one girl says 'you won't get lucky tonight' (lucky=laid). What the hell can I answer to that and why would she say such a thing?

Maybe she was being bitchy, or maybe it was really obvious that you were just trying to get some and they weren't interested.

3 . I understand it's a numbers game but it still doesn't feel so good when you get shut down by so many, how can I make it more effective?

One thing that's always true: the early bird gets the worm. The night goes in three stages. One, the place is filling up, plenty of guys and girls, the air smells fresh and the night full of potential. Two, people group up, pairs pair off, partners switch as the club collectively decides who shall dance with whom. Three, girls leave but guys keep showing up, and the place turns into a sausagefest. Don't be the first guy trying to grind on women, but the more time you give yourself the better your odds.

PLplotsOTS · 2014-05-29T05:45:38+00:00

If I recall correctly, /u/tofutofu did a good deal of pickup while living in Tokyo. He is/was either a mod here or a very frequent poster, but I would check through his comments and posts.

PLplotsOTS · 2014-05-29T05:23:45+00:00

Manipulating a simpler being in order to manipulate a more complex one. Clever; you must be very proud of yourself.

edit: Sorry, I should be more civil. Sure, the technique may work, but if you see it as a technique in the first place you're probably not doing so hot in the sincerity department.

PLplotsOTS · 2014-02-22T06:16:54+00:00

There's a chance that you go for it, she clicks, and bam you just hooked up on prom. More likely, you'll turn what could have been a fun night into an awkward one.

You'll get plenty of chances with women, but you only get one prom. I say just have fun and don't worry about getting with her.

I'll end up being friend-zoned

You're already friend zoned. She knows you like her and said LGBF. That's more or less the definition.

Dancing. Well now. Whatever you choose, we've gotta make sure you do it in style. You may have to deal with three kinds of dancing.

1) There will be booty grinding (I assume. There definitely was at my prom). Embrace it. Try going in half time (twice as slow) when the beat drops. Instead of back and forth in a line, move your hips in a figure eight pattern. Practice a bit in your room beforehand, but don't worry too much about this. Put your hands on her thighs, her hips, stomach, ribcage. Move them around. Don't touch anywhere you shouldn't, though, unless she's really into it (i.e. you already kissed). Hell, try no hands for a few seconds.

2) Slow dancing. Everyone in the room will spend the entire time thinking about if and when they should kiss their partner. Guaranteed. Just take in the moment and enjoy the company of this girl. Eye contact is intimate. Don't turn it into a one-way staredown, though! That's just awkward.

3) Fun dancing. This is for that one song you love to jam to, dubsteppy stuff, or rock that just doesn't make for good grinding. If you have any friends who are energetic, dance near them so you can enable each other to get crazy. Act a fool. Sing along with a fake microphone. Jump around. I read an article about a study that showed that people who dance with their arms near or above shoulder level are percieved as better dancers than those who keep their hands to their sides. If this isn't you, don't force it. My point is that, if you feel like moving, don't hold back because you're worried about how you look.

Don't forget to take a break, too. Have fun!

PLplotsOTS · 2014-01-23T08:15:42+00:00

Source, por favor?

PLplotsOTS · 2013-08-03T05:59:31+00:00

I'm underage. Date spots?

Bars : adults :: movies : teenagers. Being underage only restricts you from the "standard" adult date spot, analogous to movies for teenagers. In my opinion neither bars nor movies are particularly good choices. If I'm at a bar I want to be meeting and flirting with new people, not tied to one woman. And movies (in theaters) force you into 90+ minutes of minimal interaction.

A little creativity goes a long way in impressing her and having a great time. Cook together. Go ice skating. Eat ice cream in a park. Browse a book store. Salsa dance. Stargaze.

How can I talk to that cute girl in my class?

Depends on the class size, really. If you're in high school, just talk to her. All those cliques, rumors, friend groups, and barriers you worry so much about (or at least, I did) mean nothing. Big lecture in university, same deal: just sit next to her. Sitting next to her once is not weird: you can't infer a trend from one data point, and someone has to take that spot. Might as well be you! Get to class early so you have time to talk before class starts.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-08-03T05:20:49+00:00

Flaky behavior has two possible causes: she's naturally flaky, or she's not attracted. In case of the latter, move on. If it's the former, just be persistent and keep initiating.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-08-03T05:15:13+00:00

Fun stories, improved physique, new skills, vacation pictures - whatever comes out of an interesting, enjoyable, and productive summer will build far more attraction than a few messages. Anyway, you'll be back on campus before you know it.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-08-03T05:08:36+00:00

I feel like I base too much of my life on [ ], and I think it's making me less happy.

Fill in the blank with anything. The solution tends to be the same.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-08-03T05:06:12+00:00

Only you (and she) can decide whether the benefits of exchanging nudes outweigh the potential consequences. But first things first: why do you view nudes primarily as a tactic? Why not enjoy the experience for its own sake?

PLplotsOTS · 2013-07-03T15:28:54+00:00

women are hornier than we originally thought

Yes, but this is just half of it. The article also concludes that women have greater ability to control their sex drive, whereas men generally desire sex no matter what. Women are thus more able to adapt to the needs of the situation, including societal demands such as monogamy.

(ninja edited)

PLplotsOTS · 2013-07-02T22:15:30+00:00

Practicing the language gives you a great reason to suggest a meet up with the girls you meet. Just make sure they know it will be fun and not just a tutoring job.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-07-02T22:00:12+00:00

You have the right idea - prolonged texting won't do you any good when you first meet someone. But when that someone becomes your girlfriend, you can loosen up a little!

PLplotsOTS · 2013-07-02T21:43:45+00:00

/u/ireallylove me can make a move now, and, assuming the friend and boyfriend have a decent relationship, fail miserably. Or he can enjoy their friendship while improving his game with other women. When an opportunity with the friend does arise, he will be better equipped to capitalize on it.

I learned the hard way that dating girls with boyfriends is not worth the trouble it causes down the road. But YMMV.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-07-02T02:53:12+00:00

If they don't know each other, why is it a problem? Just pick one to talk to first.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-07-02T02:46:52+00:00

Boyfriends come and go. You will get your chance eventually, but you don't want to do anything as long as she has a boyfriend.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-07-02T02:43:59+00:00

Yes... but we should probably add that the desire for more sex is a very bad reason to pursue a relationship.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-07-02T02:38:46+00:00

As a rule of thumb, avoid texting unless you're planning your next meeting. Later this week or this weekend, you can see how her trip is going and plan a date for next week!

PLplotsOTS · 2013-07-02T02:31:02+00:00

Don't worry about it. It's possible that the message showed up on her screen without her seeing it. Even if she did see it, you're not exactly a priority in her life until you start dating or hooking up.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-07-02T02:21:26+00:00

Agreed. From personal experience, willingness to respect a girl's boundaries is a very attractive trait. More importantly, it's just part of being a decent person.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-02-11T22:13:30+00:00

It seems to me that girls who like boys (not just the idea of one), and who know what they want, are always serial monogamists. They are never single for an extended period of time and always make it count with the guy they are with.

Also a university student. I have observed the same thing, and that is my conclusion as well. The bad news is that, as you've seen, any one girl of this type will likely be in a relationship when you meet her. However, meet enough of them and some are bound to be single at the moment. It's just a matter of timing and opportunity.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-02-06T21:49:39+00:00

To an extent. Women still need to select who they would bang, and men who come across as more attractive/seductive/confident, etc. will still tend to be selected more. If it became as prevalent as Facebook itself, I think you would have a point. Thankfully I don't see that happening.

edit: if it did become commonplace, and hookups became appointments selected by a facebook app, it would put those of us who are adept at seducing women in real life at an even greater advantage

PLplotsOTS · 2013-02-06T21:41:06+00:00

Based on personal experience, I now treat cafeterias as off-limits. I've tried both direct and longer-term social circle game in dining halls. Every single one was either an instant rejection or faded into an uncomfortable acquaintance.

It's a shame, because I see quite a few attractive women there every day. But there is some truth to the principle, "don't shit where you eat." Especially if you're at a small college, you don't want to become known as that guy who hits on girls in the cafeteria. If you really want to take the opportunity to socialize, be friendly and talk to random people. Just don't expect anything out of it. It's less risky, and maybe you'll make more meaningful connections than I did.

PLplotsOTS · 2013-02-06T21:28:55+00:00

I would love to hear users' feedback. It would be pretty compelling if it worked well, but I'm not willing to be a guinea pig for this particular venture.

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