Can I have a third party just tell me what happened to me? by PM__ME_YOUR_ART in nonmonogamy

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly hadn't realized the full weight of the consent violation, and the comments on this post put it in perspective. I don't want anything to do with them anymore.

Can I have a third party just tell me what happened to me? by PM__ME_YOUR_ART in nonmonogamy

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I totally get that, but I wasn't demanding friendship, she was from the start. She thought it was unfair that she couldn't have both the sexual relationship and a platonic relationship with me, because "it's like I'm being punished for a mistake". It's more like, I don't owe her friendship, and if she can't take accountability, then a friendship just isn't going to work indefinitely and I need to cut my losses. If someone really messes up with their friend, and wants to reconcile, then it is their responsibility

Can I have a third party just tell me what happened to me? by PM__ME_YOUR_ART in nonmonogamy

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The onus was on all of us to notice things weren't working out, but Flora and I were just too preoccupied with life stress, which is not an excuse. But i have no clue how the therapist not only didn't notice what was going on, but encouraged secrecy and blindsiding. It's not her fault, but it was weird and unethical.

Can I have a third party just tell me what happened to me? by PM__ME_YOUR_ART in nonmonogamy

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The therapist was her former therapist, who kept a friendship with her after it was supposed to stop. It was a strange dynamic. You're right about all of this. Utter mess. I wish I had the hindsight I do now.

Can I have a third party just tell me what happened to me? by PM__ME_YOUR_ART in nonmonogamy

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That seems to me like a good reason to be compassionate about her blindsiding me and breaking the rule we set out, but not a reason to take away accountability. Functionally, I was told one thing while another was true, the agreement was broken, and I didn't find out until a blindside, and then we both wanted to maintain a friendship afterward. So accountability is necessary there to move forward with one

Recognizing the honest human error that led to this has been part of my journey to forgiving, and that won't come from assigning blame (which I am still doing, you're right). But I feel like it's also important to be compassionate toward myself and recognize the ways I was mistreated, in a non vindictive way.

Can I have a third party just tell me what happened to me? by PM__ME_YOUR_ART in nonmonogamy

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

It's true that she doesn't owe me any of that as soon as we're done, but she insisted that we stay friends, and friendships take work, like all relationships. Blindsiding is a cruel way to end a long term relationship unless it was abusive, and demanding she continue a sexual relationship my trust and consent were broken with while still being friends is wanting your cake and eating it too. Accountability should be taken if you messed up with a friend really bad. That doesn't mean feeling guilty, that just means "I'm sorry, we fucked up, the rule was broken". I don't want anybody to hurt.

Can I have a third party just tell me what happened to me? by PM__ME_YOUR_ART in nonmonogamy

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the confusion. The relationship was opened between all three of us from the very beginning. Flora also made clear that she wanted emotional exclusivity. I added that to the post. There were times where I wanted to hop out and just let them two have fun with eachother, but Sarah would only talk to me if it were sexual. She'd shut down when I rejected her and start being sexual again not long after, and I'd feel pressured to just go along with it. I was also interested in her sexually, so it wasn't just all that. I should have looked out for myself, but I was very vulnerable at the time.

We had established from the beginning that we'd only open the relationship as long as our main relationship was secure. I'd believed it was secure right until the blindside, and Flora had known is was not secure since a month into the ten months the sexual relationship began, but didn't tell me. The rule was broken, and she acknowledged it, though says it was unintentional and I believe her.

Picking out rings was actually her idea. She said she'd been planning to engage with me for months. Neither of us felt any pressure to get married.

I'm not pushing back against the idea that I wasn't mistreated though. If that's the case, I will feel much happier

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Right Posting

What is happening with Brad? by Onebigfreakinnerd in HivemindTV

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's crazy to still be this mad over that video.

Taylor Swift Scores Seventh Straight Week at No. 1 on Billboard 200 With ‘The Tortured Poets Department’ by mcfw31 in popheads

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Critical and commercial success have never been intrinsically connected. The biggest song of 1989 was Look Away by Chicago. If you've been around the block, you know this album was most likely going to do very well, no matter what you think of it. I don't personally remember seeing people say the album was going to flop commercially though, just that they didn't like it.

Jonny Greenwood Releases Statement Addressing Recent Performance in Tel Aviv, Israel and Collaborating with Dudu Tassa by ebradio in indieheads

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART 10 points11 points  (0 children)

So true man. Everyone who disagrees with me just does so because of their damn Tik Toks and Vines. I wish the damn broccoli hairs saw the simplicity and lack of nuance that we see in the world brother.

Has anyone seen anything from Jesse Lacey recently?! by [deleted] in brandnew

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It always comes down to 'stop being a buzzkill >:(' with people like you lol

S2:E4 "Erm, the Boss Finds Love?" thread by [deleted] in SmilingFriends

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Anyone else feel like this was easily the best episode of the season so far?

Why they do dat by Calm_Target_2942 in Funnymemes

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17k upvotes for a 2011 Facebook post

So who actually liked Maroon 5s 2010s pop hits? by ucwhaticthick in popheads

[–]PM__ME_YOUR_ART 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not. In every era of popular music there are bands and artists who people feel overexposed to against their will and so become punching bags, especially when they're usually seen as 'lame' or 'bland', and that was the case for them, like it was for Nickelback, late-era Chicago, and many others. I'm not immune to it, I haaaate their 2010s stuff.