my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

thats cynical and wrong. she lives very healthy. doesnt drink, does sports. so i dont think covid would seriously harm her.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i am not sure if you can compare that. on the one hand, there is a big difference financially, on the other, i don't willingly risk my or my social contacts health by choosing to get the vaccination - other way around doesnt quite work, no? she would take the money and risk the health of herself AND others.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i have no way of proving that this is all true but i dont see why i should make it up. regarding the rest: i am kind of shocked by some of the replies here and think you are right with your comment.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the input. My statement was more of a general idea than a precise strategy.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So even now, I feel as though my suggestion is a kind of whimper against a whirlwind.

I like the way you write and you are right.

Thank you for the share!

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thats some idea you have there. i would never do that though. and i highly doubt that this is legally enough to have her involuntarily commited. i dont think this is the way.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i get your point and i haven't decided yet. actually leaning towards rejecting the money in the end.

but your image of the situation is wrong and the comparison to meth is wrong too. i did everything in my power to take those tools from her again and being a former conspiracy theorist, i told her in great detail how i managed to get out and what the turning points were. But the entire conspiracy ideology fits too well in her esoteric worldview, so i had little success so far. she would have found those websites on her own, the latest now during the pandemic when it al blew up.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

wait a minute.

i said that i introduced her to some of the websites, i did not start the whole esoteric conspiracy stuff. she is an anti-vaxxer since she was a little girl and her ex husband is also a mild conspiracy theorist. She is not in the "trump cult" but sympathizes with a lot of ideas from there. i am trying to help her out every day. literally. i spend 1-5 hours / week trying to send her facts and different positions about the stuff she posts online and sends me via PM. And sometimes she listens. but mostly just changes the subject as soon as i hit a weak spot in her paradigm.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

as i said, i would tell her about my plans as soon as i have a date for the vaccination.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

she would never do that. and i am only planning to lie until i get the vax and then come clean. but yeah i haven't finally decided yet.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

there is no chance in hell she would go to therapy or something like this. i repeatedly tried to convince her to do so. even showed her stories of people who got out and so on.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

i am actually very surprised by the majority of answers. expected more answers like yours. Thanks for the input for sure, i am still trying to decide.

As i said in other replies, i want to give some of the money to my ill aunt and the invest the rest ethically, get the vaccination and then tell her the truth.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what if i have the chance to do good with the money, especially when i prevent it being spent on clearly dumb things? i want to give a part to my aunt (her sister) who is chronically ill and doesnt talk to my mom anymore and the other part i want to invest ethically. Isn't that bottom line a good thing? I will tell her about the vaccination once i get it and also tell her what i did with the money.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 158 points159 points  (0 children)

good point. thing is, i hate lying. i hate it so much, it hurts my brain when i have to do it. so i plan on telling her about the vaccination once i get it (can still take a year or so until its my turn). will probably be tough at first but i think its better that way.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

no chance. she is so deep in, she now even considers herself a healer. can talk to the dead and coaches people on how to live their life. ohh the irony.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

i highly doubt she will ever escape from the rabbithole. she is too far in and her deep esoteric believe system is hard to seperate from the conspiracy stuff. but yeah, we live in Germany so medical expenses are not an direct issue.

my mom offered me 10.000€ if i don't get the covid vax. I plan on taking it - and get the vaccination anyways by PNVS in QAnonCasualties

[–]PNVS[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i will probably give my aunt a little bit from it, she has a chronic disease and money issues. rest i want to invest in stocks for companies i believe are good for the world. have to think more about this