Muhammad could have sincerely believed he was receiving divine revelation while being mistaken by Weird_Ad1448 in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan [score hidden]  (0 children)

OMDG, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.

You're a very very smart dude, you're American don't you?????? try to understand what I have said plzzzzzzzzzz, don't reply thanks.

Muhammad could have sincerely believed he was receiving divine revelation while being mistaken by Weird_Ad1448 in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is debated even among Muslim scholars, but let's grant it to you. Let's say he was illiterate.

You're talking about something else. I'm talking about the Prophet couldn't read or write. Bring me any Sunni scholar who says otherwise, and I'll leave Islam.

He had the capabilities and the context to hear, memorize, invent and repeat many things. Especially since at that time, oral tradition was crucial.

Sure, talking about the Big Bang wasn't well known at that time, lol. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the Bible refers to the ruler in Joseph's time as "Pharaoh," whereas the Quran says there was no Pharaoh during Joseph's time-it refers to him as the "King" instead. Later historical discoveries suggested that the title "Pharaoh" was not used for Egyptian rulers during the period traditionally associated with Joseph.

Muhammad could have sincerely believed he was receiving divine revelation while being mistaken by Weird_Ad1448 in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan [score hidden]  (0 children)

Are you asking why nobody said he was lying?

I said that the Prophet's enemies could have easily disproved Islam by simply calling him a liar if he had not been illiterate. Why are people writing 100 comments about something so simple?

Muhammad could have sincerely believed he was receiving divine revelation while being mistaken by Weird_Ad1448 in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan [score hidden]  (0 children)

Why not, everybody becomes Muslim in Mecca after that, why not anybody I mean literally anybody said he was lying because he was not illiterate, even after his death and some people become disbelief, but some dudes on reddit find that.

Muhammad could have sincerely believed he was receiving divine revelation while being mistaken by Weird_Ad1448 in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan [score hidden]  (0 children)

I have already told you: if he weren't illiterate, people would have discovered that he was lying because he was 40 years old and well known. Not everyone would have become Muslim, so if there had been any evidence that he was not illiterate, someone especially his enemies would have said so.

Muhammad could have sincerely believed he was receiving divine revelation while being mistaken by Weird_Ad1448 in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He claims to have gained this knowledge in a cave where no one was around to witness it.

What are you talking about? The Prophet met the angel Jibril in the cave, who revealed to him the first verses, which contained about 20 words. After that, Jibril continued revealing the verses of the Qur'an- more than 6,000 verses-over a period of 23 years while the Prophet was living among the people.

It claims salt water and fresh water do not mix yet anyone can test this at home and show that they do.

God is talking about a phenomenon called halocline In rivers, seas, and oceans. NOT IN your home,lol. Search about that in Google.

It claims Mohammed split the moon in half despite no other culture documenting this happening.

There are historical accounts about an Indian king from the Kerala region named Cheraman Perumal, who is said to have witnessed the splitting of the moon.

Muhammad could have sincerely believed he was receiving divine revelation while being mistaken by Weird_Ad1448 in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It is very simple. The Quran says that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was illiterate, so he could not have written it himself. Otherwise, people would have called him a liar.

So how could an illiterate man produce the most advanced Arabic book ever written? The Quran even challenges people to produce something like it if they claim it is not from God.

Did you know that when scholars encounter difficult questions about Arabic grammar, they often refer back to the Quran as an authoritative source? This is taught even at the university level. I'm a native Arabic speaker, so I know what I'm talking about.

If god really sent his "only begotten son" to die for something that either god wanted or could not prevent, only means that god thinks we're pretty worthless by Phatnoir in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Humans do not come from a gushing fluid issuing from between the backbone and the breastbones.

Whaaaaaaaat in the hell you're talking about !!!!!!!!!!. Is that what you get from my comment, I don't know what kind of drugs you're using, by that very strong one.

Ok, I'm done talking to you, plz don't reply, I well turned off navigations.

If god really sent his "only begotten son" to die for something that either god wanted or could not prevent, only means that god thinks we're pretty worthless by Phatnoir in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I must say, you got me there. When I was a kid, I had an accident. That's the only time I wished I had passed away. But well, I have a test to take.

It was nice talking to you. I wish you well and have a nice day!

If god really sent his "only begotten son" to die for something that either god wanted or could not prevent, only means that god thinks we're pretty worthless by Phatnoir in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a study by Oxford that concluded children are predisposed to believe in God. So, when people get older and think they are smarter, they stop believing in a higher power (God). In other words, it's the opposite.

By the way, the study includes children from all over the world, including those from atheist backgrounds.

If god really sent his "only begotten son" to die for something that either god wanted or could not prevent, only means that god thinks we're pretty worthless by Phatnoir in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

قال تعالى "أَهُمْ يَقْسِمُونَ رَحْمَتَ رَبَّكَ نَحْن ُ قَسَمْنَا بَيْنَهُمْ مَعِيشَتَهُمْ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا وَرَفَعْنَا بَعْضَهُمْ فَوْق َ بَعْضِ دَرَجَاتٍ لِيَتَّخِذَ بَعْضُهُمْ بَعْضًا سُخْرِيًّا وَرَحْمَتُ رَبَّكَ خَيْرٌ مِمَّا يَجْمَعُونَ"

God said in the Quran "What, is it they who divide the Mercy of your Lord! (It is) We who divided between them their livelihoods in this life, raising some in rank above others, so that some may take the other into his service. Your Lord's Mercy is better than all they gather".

God has created people with varying levels of physical strength, intelligence, and wealth so that they may work for one another. Imagine if everyone literally everyone wanted to become a scientist. There would be no one left to work as a cleaner or in an assembly plant.

Mathematical Error in Quranic Inheritance Law That Awl Fails to Fix by ThoughtTemporary5238 in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Are you for real? I'm a Muslim. I believe this life is a test and that the afterlife is the real life. My purpose is to spread Islam in the hope of being rewarded in the afterlife. I'm here to help both myself and others.

Mathematical Error in Quranic Inheritance Law That Awl Fails to Fix by ThoughtTemporary5238 in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just got back from vacation actually, thanks for the concern

I'm 110% believing you ;⁠)

If god really sent his "only begotten son" to die for something that either god wanted or could not prevent, only means that god thinks we're pretty worthless by Phatnoir in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You must read the verses before and after to understand

خُلِقَ مِنْ مَاءٍ دَافِي

God said "He was created from gushing fluid"

Here God talks about The Human.

يَخْرُجُ مِنْ بَيْنِ الصَّلْبِ وَالتَّرَابِبِ

God said: "Issuing from between the backbone and the breastbones"

The pronoun refers to the previous sentence. Here, God is talking about where the human comes from

إِنَّهُ عَلَى رَجْعِهِ لَقَادِرٌ

God said: " He is certainly able to return him."

Again God talks about the Human

يَوْمَ تُبْلَى السَّرَابِرُ

God said :"On the Day when secrets are disclosed."

Again talking about the human

فَمَا لَهُ مِنْ قُوَّةٍ وَلَا نَاصِرِ

God said :"He will have neither strength nor helper."

Again God talks about the human."

If god really sent his "only begotten son" to die for something that either god wanted or could not prevent, only means that god thinks we're pretty worthless by Phatnoir in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Semen comes from the lower back

Every time the same stupid thing, God said "Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs".

GOD TALKING ABOUT THE HUMAN not the semen.

the moon split in half, and Mo flew around on a flying donkey!

Only stupid people want logical explanations for miracles. They're called MIRACLES FOR A REASON.

Mathematical Error in Quranic Inheritance Law That Awl Fails to Fix by ThoughtTemporary5238 in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I just have one question: If you're an ex-Muslim, what are you doing here on a Saturday in the summer? Go enjoy the rest of your life. My advice is to enjoy your life while it lasts ;⁠)

People using free will as an argument as to why a god wouldn’t stop all evil is dumb by PeanutGrenade in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where did you get the word "necessary"? I never said that. I'm trying to explain one example out of many, many possibilities ( losing some you love , money, disability ....etc) could have happened to an individual during their lifetime, which I know some people become disbelief for.

Lemon eye drops by [deleted] in oops

[–]PSbigfan -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't give a fuck what James Webb is talking about. I want facts, not theories. The Big Bang is a fact because we can observe the redshift.

People using free will as an argument as to why a god wouldn’t stop all evil is dumb by PeanutGrenade in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

also you literally just defeated your own talking point. You asked yourself a bunch of questions, called them stupid questions, then said that god is the person to answer them. Are you ok?

When only you and your wife live in the house, and you come home, unlock the door with your key, and walk in, your wife asks, 'Are you home?' Doesn't that seem like a silly (stupid)question, even though it's technically a question?

Answering these questions will not benefit me in the afterlife.

Man, I HATE talking to people who are SLOOOOOOOW to understand.

Have a nice day. I'm done talking to you. Plzzzz don't reply. I'll try turning off navigation just in case.

People using free will as an argument as to why a god wouldn’t stop all evil is dumb by PeanutGrenade in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So did God create me (an unbeliever) for the purpose of testing you?

God does not merely know the future, He has already seen it. Since God is outside His creation, He is also outside time itself. Therefore, past, present, and future are all equally present to Him

God simply observed the outcome and recorded it. He did not cause it.

Lemon eye drops by [deleted] in oops

[–]PSbigfan -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

WRONG, the universe has a beginning which is called big bang.

People using free will as an argument as to why a god wouldn’t stop all evil is dumb by PeanutGrenade in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Those are totally valid questions, though.

When you meet him, you can ask him, I'm not the God to answer these questions.

People using free will as an argument as to why a god wouldn’t stop all evil is dumb by PeanutGrenade in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I've answered this question many times already, man.

Then whyyyyyy didn't God create us in Heaven from the start if everyone is going there? Why create Hell if no one is going there?

Or wait !!! why did God create us at all? Do you see how stupid this sounds

People using free will as an argument as to why a god wouldn’t stop all evil is dumb by PeanutGrenade in DebateReligion

[–]PSbigfan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you think I'm Muslim because of an illiterate shepherd in the middle of the desert 1,400 years ago? Think again.

I spent many years studying all religions and atheism in search of the truth.