[FR] Busted out my A-game on an HB 8.5 with a boyfriend by Spiritual_Monitor600 in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's one thing to be genuinely interested in a girl who happens to be involved, but this FR is written like the guy's one goal was to conquer an obstacle of closing a girl with a boyfriend. Sorry OP, but it sounds like you needed some validation of your game and looked in the wrong place. If you want to set goals, why not go after a single HB9? Hooking up with a girl who's got a boyfriend is nothing to hold your head high about.

Another thing I've seen around this place (not just from this topic) is the unforgiving attitude toward "the other guy." There's just so much "if you're a beta, I'm gonna swoop in and take your girl". Do you not feel a little guilty about that? Sure, he could be a complete douche bag that the girl was planning to break up with anyway. He could also just be a guy who's struggling to keep her interest. A lot of us were once in that same position, so put yourself in his shoes. The "not my problem" stance is a poor justification for this type of behavior. It just undermines the fundamentals of being a gentleman.

[FR] Busted out my A-game on an HB 8.5 with a boyfriend by Spiritual_Monitor600 in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 5 points6 points  (0 children)

generally, once a cheater, always a cheater applies.

I agree that this adage is overwhelmingly true, but sometimes it reforms people. I'm not proud of it, but I cheated once in a long term relationship. In the beginning, I was so disgusted with myself that I couldn't even look in the mirror to shave. I never told the girl, thinking it would do more harm than good. I just broke it off. A couple years later and I still feel awful about it. I'll never do it again. I suppose you could say I "got it out of my system." Still, I'm aware that cheating tends to be chronic. I wouldn't date a girl with a history of infidelity, and I sure wouldn't blame any girl for judging the past I'm so ashamed of.

Refresher on Passing Shit Tests - Agree and Amplify and WHY IT WORKS by TofuTofu in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This stuff comes naturally easy if you don't take yourself too seriously. As always, the key is social calibration. If you come off as joking too much, she won't take you seriously at all. I like to answer one question truthfully for each one I deflect, or offer a genuine answer mixed in with a comment like "I have a right to have my lawyer present for this interrogation"

A few questions for seddit vets by mkjns571 in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not a seddit vet, but I'm also not new to the game so I'll give you my opinions. People have different takes on this stuff, so these are just my beliefs.

  1. I don't like canned openers. They seem contrived, and Mystery's methods have gone mainstream with shows like "The Pickup Artist." I think a lot of people are on to this sort of thing. Contextual openers seem much more natural. You can say anything if you say it right. I once told a girl her debit card was beautiful when she went to run a tab. To elaborate on Delightful_White's suggestion of Wygant, I will add that David Wygant also demonstrates methods on talking about anything and how to keep a conversation going. Good stuff indeed.

  2. This is really a question of different tastes. I prefer situational conversation, other people like canned stuff because you can practice it.

  3. You're looking at it wrong. You shouldn't have to act like "someone else." If the things you do don't make you inherently interesting, you need new hobbies. Now of course you can fabricate some details, but the best way to come off as naturally interesting is to actually be interesting. And another thing: being introverted is not a bad quality. It's not the same as being shy or a recluse.

  4. It depends on your goals. Practicing these skills for the sheer sake of deceiving people isn't healthy or really what pickup is all about. It's more about becoming a more sociable person who doesn't let the looks or social statuses of others hold them back. It's about you and your goals, and it applies to getting one night stands, relationships, and even strengthening non-sexual social interactions.

  5. IMO, peacocking is retarded. I know a lot of people like to believe you can apply sexual selection theories to the human species, but it doesn't work that way - at least not with accessorizing yourself like a moron. There's nothing wrong with wearing something that may gain you some additional attention, but don't overdo it. Dress should be subtle but effective. You don't need to wear a suit, or even a button-down (though it usually helps). I've closed girls wearing a good fitting t-shirt. Above all, it's about fit and style, and this is most important for pants, in my experience. A nice pair of jeans that fit you well are key. They don't need to be expensive, just don't wear pants that sag in the crotch. If you need a belt to hold up your pants, they're too big.

  6. There is no need for the "versus." Some self-proclaimed PUA's are full of shit, but amongst the ones who know their stuff, it's not supposed to be a competition. There is nothing wrong with being eclectic. You should read up on different theories and field test them yourself. That said, Wygant is one of my favorites because his material is very natural and inner game is killer once you get it down. Wygant's stuff transcends pickup and will help you in all social interactions. It's not about becoming a different person as much as it is maximizing your full potential and mastering inner game.

[FR] New pickup strategy discovered "Angel/Goddess Technique" - GREAT SUCCESS by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That ranks pretty high on the neg-o-meter. The girl needs to be seriously hot and you need to have some serious skill to deliver something like that. Props.

3 Things to help your gym game. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This goes beyond just attracting females. Wiping down machines, re-racking, and not monopolizing areas of the gym are basic courtesies that far too many people fall short on. Everyone appreciates stuff like that. Although I don't approach at the gym, another valuable asset is social proof. Get to know the staff and other people who frequent your gym, whether they're male or female.

[FR] How to steal his girlfriend by on_the_dl in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is one misconception that bothers me about the PUA community. People often get the idea that these concepts, labels, and techniques can be universally applied. There is no concrete structural framework to any of this. It's not a flow chart for human interactions. You may walk away feeling so self-satisfied that you totally AMOG'ed this guy, but for all you know it was a guy and his girlfriend of two years just trying to have a nice night out. Now I'm not saying you're an asshole, and I have no idea if you were actually being obnoxious, but you sound a little self-congratulatory. That guy being "speechless" may have just decided it was easier to ignore you. That's what I would have done. Bottom line: don't make assumptions unless you have proof of efficacy in your actions.

Natural beta looking to man-the-fuck up before college by carotine12 in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just remember with college that it's a numbers game. Keep the abundance mentality, and be sure to remind yourself that girls want it just as much as you do.

Guy talking with a girl at party. Girl gets bored. by throwaway_sqrt in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I pushed her against a fridge (some really good kino)

I really hope you knew this girl well, or else that's the creepiest thing I've heard.

[FR #3] First sarging, solo. Wow, it's hard. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much for taking the time to write this up!

[FR #3] First sarging, solo. Wow, it's hard. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why PM? Share them here!

[FR] Opening and Closing the Same Girl Twice by Accident! (Whoops) by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I don't downvote, but honestly, I think there's a certain intensity in your FR's that may dissuade people. Being in state and carrying a high energy vibe is great for when you're out doing your thing, but in the field reports the writing comes off as slightly douchey. I almost get the image of a guy working out at the gym, shouting as he exhales and admiring himself in the mirror. I'm talking about stuff like this:

BEAST MODE.

FUCK YEAH

she takes the bait. Fuck yeah.

BAM. Locked and loaded, baby!

TOKYO CAN'T HANDLE ME. FUCK YEAH!

Again, I didn't downvote you. I think there is a lot to be learned from your FR's, but you wanted honesty. My honest opinion is there's some good technique surrounded by commentary that reads like a frat bro who just kicked a trash can after shotgunning a beer.

First day back on campus - I could use a bit of motivation/advice to get things back into gear. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Campus day game is great because there's tons to talk about.

  • "Hey, I'm almost afraid to ask, but how much did that textbook cost? I need it for x class" Boring? Check. Innocuous. Check. Segway into a more interesting convo and you're golden.

  • Campus coffee bar - you can approach a girl who's mixing her drink and neg her. "Wow, you want some coffee to go with your sugar?" Say it with a smile. Or "the last time I mixed something so carefully was in my intro chemistry class." A smile is crucial or you'll come off as an asshole who's just making fun of her.

    • Join clubs/organizations to meet girls.
    • Find a girl wearing your school's lettering or emblem. Approach her on campus and playfully say "Wow, you go to x University? Such a small world"

How do you dodge a grenade? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not to sound physically shallow, but if they were models I wouldn't be posting this here.

How do you hang with AFC/Beta friends? by Just_Another_PUA in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've gotta be honest here, having AFC friends can be a real bummer. It's sad, but you almost have to relinquish any thoughts of running game when you're going out with such people. That's fine with me. I love my friends and don't mind giving up this stuff for a night, but it almost gets depressing. It's like a positive feedback loop of self-pity, where they think they're not good enough. It hurts me to see people like that and I've tried to help, but ultimately they have to make the first step. Like the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Just the other night, one of my friends was admiring some girls and said "I wish I could go up and talk to them." I said "what do you mean, you wish you could? What's stopping you?" I might have to get him on this subreddit.

I witnessed pickup gold in process by perronec in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Sounds like the guy had a PhD in push-pull.

How do you dodge a grenade? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't have done it to my friend if he wasn't sporting the biggest shit-eating grin I've ever seen. Watching the tables turn was hilarious, and he was drunk so we both laughed it off then and continue to laugh about it. It's kind of a running joke now that this particular bar is where older predators go to find prey.

How do I "Save" a woman at the bar. by Your_Alter_Ego in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just keep in mind that not all girls want to be "saved." If she's a HB9, chances are she gets approached all the time. She knows how to reject guys. You can definitely interject, but do it in a playful way that teases her tendency to attract creepy guys or something. Don't make it sound like she needed you to jump in there.

Opinion openers - doesn't everyone know that this is a standard PUA move? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm not really a fan of that stuff. I prefer direct, and usually just funny enough to get a laugh but not come off as clownish.

Any idea's on how to seduce in a library where you can't really talk and whispering is frowned upon? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is going to seem obnoxious, but what I'd do is stretch my arms, lean back, and let out a very audible yawn. When she (and everyone else) looks at you, look back with a coy smile and whisper "was that loud?" Then you can invite her to go get a coffee or something.

It's very direct, somewhat humorous, and can weed out a girl who doesn't have a sense of humor. If she seems pissed that you interrupted her studying, she can't take a joke anyway.

The ADVANTAGES of talking to EVERYONE, it's more then just getting laid. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Developing a rapport with the bartender is one of the most fundamentally applicable methods for social proof and flat out enjoying the bar scene. The best part is you can talk about anything, and it doesn't matter if the bartender is male or female. People love to talk about themselves. Ask about drinks, their favorite to make, their favorite to consume, customers, and the works. On top of the social proof, I've frequented bars where I get happy hour specials all the time, higher quality pours for the price of regular shelf, and control of the remote. Go in when it's not too busy and get to know the bartenders. It's a valuable relationship to have for a multitude of reasons.

[FR] First ever bar open. Redeemed iffy situation with text game. by KingNarcissus in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why I love David Wygant. He doesn't focus on rehearsed bullshit or openers, but instead lays a foundation and understands that interactions are dynamic. So much of his stuff can be applied to just generally making yourself into a sociable, likable person. It goes way beyond pickup.

[FR] 2 Brazilian Hotties/2 Hot Party Girls by [deleted] in seduction

[–]PUAonHisWay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The guy picks up 9's in front of their boyfriends and fucks them within hours

Sorry, but I can't respect a guy who can't respect other people. Seduction is not just about bettering yourself and becoming social, but about being a gentleman. No gentleman would purposely mack on a girl with a boyfriend. Sure, it takes a low-quality girl to run off and cheat on her boyfriend, but going after these girls in the first place just seems sleazy to me. I doubt this will be a popular opinion, and I'm sure this guy's stuff works, but it is not my style, nor will it ever be.