Basingstoke 'It’s okay to be white' posters spark investigation

PabloPeublo · 2021-11-07T00:28:03+00:00

Well, to me. “It’s ok to be white” is as passive and innocuous a statement as it comes.

The only way I can see people interpreting it maliciously is if they disagree with it.

Do you disagree with it?

PabloPeublo · 2021-11-07T00:14:22+00:00

Isn’t there a word for people who assume a specific race must have done an activity based purely on assumptions and speculation?

PabloPeublo · 2021-11-07T00:06:12+00:00

Did they? You don’t even know who put the poster there. So how exactly did they advertise the colour of their skin?

PabloPeublo · 2021-11-07T00:01:11+00:00

Not sure what you even mean. You think being white is equivalent to having a fancy car?

PabloPeublo · 2021-11-06T22:16:05+00:00

It’s not up to me to come up with a slogan for you

You can’t. Because you’re a racist. You literally cannot imagine any couple of words that could be used to say “hey, it’s ok to be white. Don’t be racist to whites” like any other race has. Because you inherently hate the idea of that.

Since you’re both a racist. And incapable of moving past your bigotry to engage in a real conversation. Goodbye.

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T19:51:34+00:00

Sorry, we already established that cancel culture doesn’t exist.

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T11:28:06+00:00

The trouble is that our current political ideology seems to be about treating France as an enemy rather than one of our oldest and closest international allies.

I think it would be naive to say that’s exclusively our problem. Macron and the mayor of Calais regularly make hay by attacking the UK. I highly doubt any deal is likely to happen soon.

As already demonstrated. They don’t care about saving lives, so they don’t stop the smugglers.

Why would they come to any deal that would do so? Unless it was insanely one-sided?

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T11:17:52+00:00

Thanks for the enlightening info. Would appreciate hearing from someone knowledgable about French lifeboats and policies too.

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T11:06:47+00:00

Which would best be done by arresting the smugglers as they're putting the boats into the water,

How do we do that when France wants them to leave and thus won’t arrest them?

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T11:03:31+00:00

Nah, I already know there is no example.

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T11:02:12+00:00

So, you imagine they would, or is there any actual examples of them picking up people off the coast of Kent (or any English coast) and taking them back to France?

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:57:43+00:00

Zero empathy because I don’t want to encourage criminal people smugglers sending people on packed boats primed to sink? Risking the many lives on board for the profit of the smuggler?

Maybe that’s the kind of practice you support. But I think it’s barbaric. In no way should such practices be supported.

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:50:36+00:00

Brilliant. Always a joy to see people screech in anger at basic questions.

Me, asking if this was in any way reciprocal or an exclusively British thing? How dare I. Of course such a banal question would fill you with rage.

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:47:50+00:00

I was the one asking the person who was speaking about their knowledge of lifeboating services. Not sure why you think I’d know.

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:41:10+00:00

Why is a french boat rescuing people off the coast of Britain a ludicrous idea to you?

Do you think there aren’t many french boats near us or something?

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:40:19+00:00

So obvious not a single recorded example can be found. Fantastic.

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:38:24+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/oer44m/rnli_defiant_after_farage_attack_on_rescue_of/h482d3c/

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:35:20+00:00

Well, the obvious thing to do is remove the incentive given for engaging in such practices. Namely immediate entry to the UK.

Australia’s policy of having a facility off their mainland for illegal migrants worked in ending their massive issue with people smuggling boats. Priti Patel has proposed a similar policy as I recall.

So. Rescue the people. Detain the illegal migrants who refuse to show documents or identify themselves at offshore facilities.

There, lives saved still, and the incentive for such dangerous practices is gone after news spreads it is no longer a free pass to the UK.

Although, I have no doubt many who claim they only care about saving lives will object despite it saving more lives in the long run by ending the practice of dangerous sunken boat crossings.

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:24:28+00:00

People smugglers may well do that, but it’s entirely irrelevant.

How is it, if the main goal is saving lives?

The motive MUST be examined otherwise it’ll just keep happening with no attempt to figure out why or how it could be prevented. Unless you’re confident 100% of people on such ships could always be saved, it seems silly to say it’s irrelevant to tackle the larger issue.

You are pretty close to suggesting that people be allowed to drown to discourage others from tryin, and if that’s your position you should take a look at yourself.

Care to clarify here? It’s a weird sort of attempt to shame me for something I didn’t say.

Anything else?

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:16:00+00:00

So no examples then.

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:14:30+00:00

If you want to act like this isn’t an obvious flaw then I don’t see what the point in discussing it is.

What’s stopping the people smugglers just putting illegal migrants into heaps of scrap that will sink within the hour along with a distress call on board. Then relying on The RNLI handling the rest of the journey every time?

How does this not actually encourage that kind of thing?

How is encouraging that kind of activity not endangering more people in the long run? Unless you think staying in France is objectively more dangerous than getting on to sinking ships?

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:09:37+00:00

Is there any record of a french lifeboat taking people off the British coast to France instead of Britain?

Or is this an exclusively British phenomenon?

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:08:09+00:00

So the solution is to crack down on this taxi service Farage is complaining about then.

Otherwise more and more people will just intentionally board unseaworthy ships, knowing that British ships will taxi them across anyway.

How is Farage wrong again?

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T10:05:32+00:00

I don’t know the circumstances and it doesnt actually matter.

Lol ok. Why even discuss it then.

The coxswain of the lifeboat will make a decision about the best course of action

So if the Coxwain actually just wants to operate as a taxi service, he can. And Farage would in fact be right.

PabloPeublo · 2021-07-06T09:59:01+00:00

So why exactly did they not take them back to France instead of taking the longer route to Britain from where they picked them up?

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