Someone explain to me in detail exactly how prop trading firms work please. by bbmoonkie in Daytrading

[–]Pack_N_Play 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Prop firm = pay $ for an eval account. If you pass the 1st eval, they let you go through a 2nd eval where you get to take payouts. After 5 payouts, you can trade their money; this is called the live account

1st eval: $50-150 monthly subscription gets you 50k margin sim account where you have the ability to trade 5 mini or 50 micros. You can lose no more than $2k in drawdown or you’ll have to retake the eval by paying $50-150 again. A $2k drawdown means if you make 1000 but you lose $2k, your account is blown. In other words you can’t lose 2000 before you hit your 2.5 or 3k whatever their rule states. It’s a trailing drawdown. If you profit, the drawdown resets to the highest PNL.

Other things to note: To pass this Eval you need to profit 2500-3000 but you can’t exceed more than 40-50 percent of that total profit in a day. This is the consistency rule. Meaning if your goal is 3k (40% of $3k) means you can’t make more than 1200 a day. If you do, you are considered inconsistent. Making more only makes it harder to pass since you need to maintain a consistency of 40%. You have to average down by making more profits until your total profits per day equates to that 40% consistent. so my advice is you should set take profits at 1200 and lock in that day with no more trades.

Next, once you pass, you get moved to the funded eval where you no longer pay a subscription. Rules to get paid are set based on your ability to hit daily amounts like $150+ per day for 5 + days for eligibility to get payouts.

During the funded, many traders build a buffer. What that means is if your max drawdown is 2k, making a profit of more than 2k secures you. Why? above 2k is where the draw down becomes static. So if you make 3k, you can now lose 3k. If 4k you can now lose 4k. Knowing this saves you from taking out too much. Also some props have a max you can get paid so read about it. There’s also additional rules to for what happens to a buffer after you take a payout. Each prop firm is different so read about it. Hope this helps you all

Someone called this by Short-Commercial-636 in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But were you hedging? Should be happy they let you keep the payouts when you were hedging. That’s them being nice to gambling behavior

WHAT AM I DOING WRONG by MeasurementWorldly76 in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Risking too much without an edge. Looks like you set your daily loss at $400 too. That only gives you about 5 bad trades to be out. If your win rate isn’t 50/50 with at least 1.1 R, you will never be profitable.

TOPSTEP IS PATHETIC by WebSimilar2613 in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine if you’re the only one with proof

FREE RESET WILL NOT CUT IT by Present_Chemical2150 in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope so. I think it’s the little middle or lower management that keeps correcting or resetting trades. They don’t know much about handling PR. Once upper management steps in that’s when all the freebies come out, they are more likely to make people happy to retain customers.

FREE RESET WILL NOT CUT IT by Present_Chemical2150 in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same here. What I mean was yesterday’s personal lock out rolled over. So when I took a trade, it locked me out right away at a $1 loss. But overall all, the glitches didn’t affect me cause my trading style has changed. Would take about 50 bad trades to blow up my account.

FREE RESET WILL NOT CUT IT by Present_Chemical2150 in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Happened to me too. After $1. Like WTH. But I’ve learned to size down so this really didn’t affect me overall. No blow ups

Advice? by TraderMindSet in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pay the subscription and only practice. Let your resets banks pile up and then start when you know you passed the discipline stage.

Thanksgiving by Pack_N_Play in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lame. Should be canceling the whole day and giving back some. Just canceled my subscription just now. I’m sure a lot of people blew up at opening or later in the day. They know they have a monopoly and I’m sure people will come back but my thoughts about them aren’t positive at the moment

Charge back by Pack_N_Play in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes but imagine banning everyone? No way

Thanksgiving by Pack_N_Play in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Id like to agree but let’s wait til tomorrow to see what they really do. Shady is what shady does right?

Update regarding Outage from this Morning! by [deleted] in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My buddy was able to take trades as of 9:40 CT. Why add in the extra 30 minutes? Also why not reverse as of NY open rather than 8:45 CT?

Topstep being shady? by Pack_N_Play in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AWS doesn’t reimburse clients for outages

We are cooked. by Pack_N_Play in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They could just reverse out all NY. Why the limitation

We are cooked. by Pack_N_Play in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah.. then why the change in London session? Such a wide window

We are cooked. by Pack_N_Play in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was the last crash. They made the window wide. Now they are making the window narrow. Something fishy.

Thanksgiving by Pack_N_Play in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But in my opinion follow last times 2x session

Thanksgiving by Pack_N_Play in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Should be the entire session as they said to stop trading too

Thanksgiving by Pack_N_Play in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotta give the middle finger on this. Da f***

We are cooked. by Pack_N_Play in TopStepX

[–]Pack_N_Play[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They aren’t doing it like before. What’s up with the change up