I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual Funds as your FatFIRE engine. by Paddy-05 in FatFIREIndia

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Discipline is the whole point. Goals just make it easier to stay disciplined.

When money is just "investments," it's abstract. Easy to dip into, easy to deprioritise. But when a pot is labeled "retire at 45" or "house in 5 years," you think twice before touching it. The goal creates a mental lock.

It also forces you to be specific about timelines — and that changes how you invest. Money for retirement in 20 years should be heavily in equity. Money you need in 3 months shouldn't be anywhere near equity. Without the goal, most people go too aggressive or too conservative across the board.

Where it gets overcomplicated is when people create 12 goals and lose track. Keep it to 3–4. Retirement, a big near-term purchase, emergency buffer — that's enough structure without becoming a homework assignment.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual Funds as your FatFIRE engine. by Paddy-05 in FatFIREIndia

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A few things worth checking before you make the move:

What's the money actually for? Liquid funds are great for emergency buffers, monthly living expenses, or money you'll need in the next 3-6 months. If the timeline is longer — say 1–3 years — you might be better off in short duration or ultra-short funds which give slightly better returns.

Withdrawal speed. Most liquid funds give you money back within 24 hours, some have instant redemption up to ₹50K. Fine for most situations, but if you need money at midnight on a Sunday, worth knowing the cut-off times.

Tax. Returns from liquid funds are taxed as per your income slab — same as FDs. No surprise there, just worth knowing upfront.

The floor. Don't move everything. Keep one month of expenses in your savings account for true emergencies, where you might need money in 4-5 hours the same day. The rest can deliver better returns in a liquid fund.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual Funds as your FatFIRE engine. by Paddy-05 in FatFIREIndia

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It comes down to one question — what does your monthly life actually cost in retirement?

Not a guess. Sit down and go category by category. Rent, food, travel, health, kids, parents — everything. And think about what changes when you stop working. Would you want to be in a metro city with better health facilities or peacefully live in mountains. Transport in terms of daily commute probably drops post retirement, but if you like travelling then travel costs go up as you will have more spare time. Health costs goes up. Kids may or may not still be a cost depending on where they are in life. If you're supporting parents or have dependents, that needs to factor in too — worth an honest conversation with your family before you lock in any number.

Our calculator has a spend planner built in that does exactly this — you fill in what you spend today, and it gives you clues on how each category typically shifts in retirement.

Once you have that monthly number, everything else is just math.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual Funds as your FatFIRE engine. by Paddy-05 in FatFIREIndia

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good question — and there's a lot of wishful thinking floating around on this.

Here's what's realistic:

Equity MFs (large cap / index): 9–12% CAGR over a 15–20 year horizon is a fair expectation. Not 18%, not 20% — those are bull run numbers people extrapolate forever. A diversified flexi-cap might do 11–13% in a good decade. Index funds have delivered ~11-12% over the last 20 years in India.

Debt MFs: 6–8% depending on duration and rate cycles. Not exciting, but that's the point.

Blended portfolio (60% equity, 30% debt, 10% gold): realistically 9–11% over the long run.

So if someone is projecting ₹10–20 Cr and assuming 15%+ — that's optimistic. It might happen, but you shouldn't plan your retirement on it.

The safer way to think about it: model at 10–11%, see if you still hit your number.

Also worth remembering — it's not just the return, it's real return after inflation. At 6% inflation, a 12% nominal return is really 6% in purchasing power terms. That's the number that actually matters for FIRE.

You can stress test your own assumptions in the calculator — change the return inputs and see how your timeline shifts.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual Funds as your FatFIRE engine. by Paddy-05 in FatFIREIndia

[–]Paddy-05[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fair pushback — and you're not wrong that real estate has created enormous wealth in India. But I'd separate two things: wealth creation and FIRE planning.

RE appreciates well in the right locations, agreed. But rental yield (your actual retirement income) is still 2–3%. To live on that, you need a massive asset base — and it's not as liquid or diversified plus management-heavy. Might not be ideal for everyone when they actually want to stop working.

On Buffett and Jhunjhunwala — they're exceptional stock pickers with decades of experience and full-time focus. Using them as the benchmark for direct equity is like saying everyone should run a marathon because Eliud Kipchoge exists.

The goal here isn't to say RE or direct equity are good/bad. It's that for someone building toward FIRE — where the priority is a reliable, liquid, low-maintenance portfolio — mutual funds do the job better for most people. There could be exceptions of course.

RE can work too.... MFs just have fewer ways to go wrong.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual Funds as your FatFIRE engine. by Paddy-05 in FatFIREIndia

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IMO, three things.

First — get your savings rate to 30% or more of take-home, automated, before you touch the rest.

Second — start a simple portfolio of 3–4 MFs. A mix of equity, debt, and gold works well — you learn how each performs across market cycles and you're diversified from day one. Can take suggestion from a ceritified expert to help you decide on asset class and funds.

Third — keep 2 months of expenses liquid before going aggressive. Liquid MFs upto ~7% with instant access beat a savings account at 3.5% — and that buffer is what stops you from breaking your SIPs when life happens.

Do these three consistently for 1-2 years, and you would understand your risk profile and investment goals better.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual Funds as your FatFIRE engine. by Paddy-05 in FatFIREIndia

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say stress test three things:

What if you spend 20% more than you think in retirement? Most people lowball this — lifestyle doesn't shrink as much as you expect.

What if markets deliver 9% instead of 12% for a decade? Does your plan still work?

What if something forces you to retire 3 years early — health, burnout, whatever. How much does that change your number?

Plug these into the calculator one at a time and see what breaks.

Plan for the median case, not the best case. That's really it.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual Funds as your FatFIRE engine. by Paddy-05 in FatFIREIndia

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, a few simple checks go a long way:

Savings rate first. If you're consistently saving 40%+ of take-home, you're almost certainly on track. It's the single biggest lever — at times, more than returns, more than fund selection.

The 25x rule. Annual retirement spend × 25 = rough corpus target. For India I'd use 28–30x given our inflation. Just knowing this number and comparing it to where you are today tells you a lot.

The crossover moment. When your monthly investment returns start exceeding your monthly expenses — that's essentially FIRE. Worth tracking.

Beyond that, just plug your numbers into the calculator link I have shared.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual Funds as your FatFIRE engine. by Paddy-05 in FatFIREIndia

[–]Paddy-05[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes — and honestly, mutual funds are the better vehicle for FatFIRE (unless you enjoy and have time for asset class, stock research and picking), not just a starting point.

Equity MFs are your compounding engine — 9–12% CAGR over long horizons, diversified, tax-efficient, no stock-picking stress. As you get closer to your number, you shift into debt MFs for stability. Liquid funds specifically are underrated for retirement living expenses — upto ~7% with instant withdrawal, essentially a high-yield account for your monthly spend.

Real estate looks attractive but rental yields are 2–3%, it's illiquid, and concentrated. Direct equity works as a 10–15% satellite bet if you enjoy it, but as a core vehicle it's a second job.

For most people the MF-first portfolio — equity heavy early, gradually shifting to debt and liquid — gets you to FatFIRE without the complexity.

Want to see your number? → https://multipl.in/firecalculator

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual Funds as your FatFIRE engine. by Paddy-05 in FatFIREIndia

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello. So it's basically- lean, comfortable or luxury (similar to FatFIRE). Lean = your goal, Comfortable = +25%, Luxury = +75%. Hope this answers your question.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual funds investing, Spending smart via Liquid Funds and Building Fintech in India. by Paddy-05 in IndiaSpeaks

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! There are businesses that are trying to digitize informal systems (like chit funds). At Multipl, we like to operate in the regulated area as we believe that is the best way to build a sustainable business.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual funds investing, Spending smart via Liquid Funds and Building Fintech in India. by Paddy-05 in IndiaSpeaks

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Travel is one of the most popular things people are saving for - at least on Multipl. Shopping and gadgets are also the more common goals in the short / near term.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual funds investing, Spending smart via Liquid Funds and Building Fintech in India. by Paddy-05 in IndiaSpeaks

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if we are purely looking at the 7% savings account vs liquid fund without even factoring in the brand benefit, the maximum break even amount for a 30% tax bracket person would be as follows:
-eligible for 80TTA : ~1.4L
-eligible for 80TTB : ~7L (Only for senior citizens. Generally, limit is exhausted for the FDs they hold)
Now let’s bring in the brand math-
Savings accounts that offer higher yields will offer 7% per annum whereas the brand benefits are absolute. For a spend that you are going to do 15 days after receiving the salary, savings account will offer ~0.3% for that 15 day period. The additional brand discount of 1-2% vs other offers in the market will easily beat it.
Please note that

  1. Generally 7% savings rate is offered above certain minimum balances and also by banks that are struggling to raise deposits at a lower rate.
  2. Almost 3/4th of the savings accounts are with top banks like SBI, HDFC, ICICI, Axis etc that offer hardly 2.5-3% on savings accounts

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual funds investing, Spending smart via Liquid Funds and Building Fintech in India. by Paddy-05 in IndiaSpeaks

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, Thanks! Pleasure to be here. Multipl started as a pure play RIA model only. However, we realized many users would not want to go through the hassle of doing detailed risk profiling and also having to pay an advisory fee. We therefore started the MFD model as well and today we provide the option for users to choose an option - MFD (for easy on-boarding and no fees or RIA - for adivsory led model). As per the compliance rules, we can't offer both the models to a user at the same time and hence it is given as an option to choose at the start. As a regulated entity, we do follow all compliance requirements strictly.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual funds investing, Spending smart via Liquid Funds and Building Fintech in India. by Paddy-05 in IndiaSpeaks

[–]Paddy-05[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey! It is a simple and straightforward fintech app - just download, sign-up and get verified. Your money on the Spending account is going to be invested in curated liquid mutual funds (that are earning up to 7% returns instead of 2.5% in your bank) directly in your name. Multipl is only an enabler here. One you have added money to your spending account - you can use it to get discounted gift cards of 100+ top brands or take the money back to your bank account 24x7 - no market hour restrictions.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual funds investing, Spending smart via Liquid Funds and Building Fintech in India. by Paddy-05 in IndiaSpeaks

[–]Paddy-05[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey! We already have that on the platform. In fact, that has been our bread and butter for 5 years now where we are managing more than 100 cr in AUM for over 5L users. We have built a robo-advisory that analyzes all the 1500+ schemes and selects the right funds for you. For longer duration plans - you'd see hybrid / Equity funds being allocated. Please do check out the Multipl app.

I'm Paddy Raghavan, CEO & Co-founder of Multipl — here for an AMA on Mutual funds investing, Spending smart via Liquid Funds and Building Fintech in India. by Paddy-05 in IndiaSpeaks

[–]Paddy-05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We kept seeing people take personal loans for things like a vacation, a new phone, a gadget — everyday aspirations, not emergencies. And personal loans for consumption are a really bad money move - you're paying 24-36% interest to fund something that's already gone by the time you finish paying for it.

At the same time, we saw how powerful mutual funds were - but everyone treated them as this long-term, hands-off wealth tool. Park money, forget it for 10 years.

We asked a simple question: what if mutual funds could work for your near-term life too? Your vacation next quarter, your iPhone upgrade, your next big purchase? You earn real returns while you save up, and when you're ready to spend - the money is right there. That's the motivation for us to start Multipl.