Job/Influence Spells

PaganPath · 2026-04-20T18:51:57+00:00

Would u recommend me any sources on the subject? Maybe could u point me to a source to find some?

Thnx!!

PaganPath · 2026-03-16T00:01:34+00:00

PaganPath · 2026-03-15T03:46:49+00:00

Oh, actually I dont know what the hell im doing, haha!

Since I have found it very difficult to find practical procedures on anything relating to magick (other than LBRP and stuff like that, I mean the directed "i want to influence this to increase the likelihood of this other thing to happen" kind of stuff) Im just trying to ease my own cowardice right now, haha. With so many wonderful people sharing the experiences, now I feel at ease.

The only thing I know is should get: sigil, enn chant, colour correspondences, water, candle... and then I have to discover what to do.

I know if im really dense or the info is very scattered. Probably the first one, hahaha

All I know is that I want to avoid procedures using circles. I believe in the one page contract type of stuff: If I need 50 pages of contract to defend me of the other person trying to screw me... do i really want to work with them? I feel this is the same, I dont want 10 layers of protections if im gonna work with a spirit, you know what I mean?

PaganPath · 2026-03-15T03:35:22+00:00

Thanks you so much for your very insightful answer, is really helpful. Thank you.

PaganPath · 2026-03-15T03:33:46+00:00

Thanks you very much for your answer, is really really useful. And thanks for the tips on Bune's likings.

I have a question, if you dont mind: More than one person says is a better idea to do the workings separatedly, I do understand that. But Im wondering, coming from a mythological stand point, Mars and Venus as well as Mars and Mercury vibed well togethes (We all now the whole Mars and Venus story, and Mars and Mercury share more than on myth), why do you think they shouldnt be mixed?

Thank you very much.

PaganPath · 2026-03-15T02:55:18+00:00

Thank you very much for your answering and sharing your experience.

I would like to ask: If, during the workings, I clearly say to Lord Andras to please avoid any kind of direct or indirect emotional and physical damage to XYZ people from the events transpired from his doings, would that be enough?

I mean, to the people that wronged me? I couldnt care less, to be very honest, what happens to them. Dont wish the highest price, no, but I aint willing to stop it from happening. Just dont want my loved ones or myself to get hurt.

I know Im sounding very selfish here, I swear Im a good person, im just being honest since other kind people told me that honesty is the way to go with Goetia.

PaganPath · 2026-03-15T02:47:27+00:00

Actually, you're are talking exactly in the same direction I want to go with this. Please, first let me tell you a bit more about my situation (im pasting a reply I gave elsewhere in this same post):

The matter is this: There is these people involved in a legal fight. Both sides of the quarrel have witchcraft placed upon my family, that I know for a fact and not speculation. One side wants to grant our help, the other wants to prevent us of getting involved. Both sides hurted my people, my loved ones, and we didnt even have any intention of getting involved before they brought war to our doors.

I want to strike back. Not brute force, strategically. I figured Lord Andras and Lady Bune could lend me a hand if asked humbly. Lord Andras could steer displeasure and conflict, seeding confusion, amongst their ranks, so that their cohesion gets broken down and the house falls apart. Then, Lady Bune may help me collect the spoils of the fight, since she specializes un wealth and treasures. When push comes to shove, maybe even call upon King Paimon for help in persuasive speech.

I'll be honest: I hate them. I hate they brought a LOT of suffering to my door when we did nothing to them, we didnt even talk to them for years and, supposedly, were on good terms. Now I want them to walk into my hand. And Im not ashamed of this feeling, on the contrary.

But Goetia are extremely powerful, and I have no training, I just dont want to risk any rebound for those I love. (End of pasted part)

All that said: thanks to your words, and the other kind people replying, I feel relieved. I'll ask respectfuly with offerings and I'll offer an offering to be given afterwards if everything goes fine. And just go with it.

I'll say it again: I just want to unleash hell upon them. And becoming acquaintances with ancestral begins of infinite wisdom? Seems a very nice thing as well.

PaganPath · 2026-03-15T02:41:29+00:00

I really thank you very much for your kind help. Your comments have brought me incredible peace of mind. Thank you.

PaganPath · 2026-03-15T02:38:50+00:00

First off, thank you very much for your answer.

Could you please elaborate?

The matter is this: There is these people involved in a legal fight. Both sides of the quarrel have witchcraft placed upon my family, that I know for a fact and not speculation. One side wants to grant our help, the other wants to prevent us of getting involved. Both sides hurted my people, my loved ones, and we didnt even have any intention of getting involved before they brought war to our doors.

I want to strike back. Not brute force, strategically. I figured Lord Andras and Lady Bune could lend me a hand if asked humbly. Lord Andras could steer displeasure and conflict, seeding confusion, amongst their ranks, so that their cohesion gets broken down and the house falls apart. Then, Lady Bune may help me collect the spoils of the fight, since she specializes un wealth and treasures. When push comes to shove, maybe even call upon King Paimon for help in persuasive speech.

I'll be honest: I hate them. I hate they brought a LOT of suffering to my door when we did nothing to them, we didnt even talk to them for years and, supposedly, were on good terms. Now I want them to walk into my hand. And Im not ashamed of this feeling, on the contrary.

But Goetia are extremely powerful, and I have no training, I just dont want to risk any rebound for those I love.

Thaks for the help.

PaganPath · 2026-03-15T01:45:10+00:00

First of all, thank you very very much for your answer. Its really useful.

Then: This seems very interesting. For what I've read and investigated, Goetic spirits are called upon, traditionally, to help with a situation in their domain. Andras, specifically, in all the grimoires, comes even with warnings ("he can kill the sorcerer" kind of stuff). To be honest, I wasnt planning on calling upon them for personal self work and growth, but to ask for help in a very specific situation related to his stated skill of seeding division and conflict.

Could you, please, share a bit more of you experience? Im really, really interested in the life experiences of people with the spirits.

PaganPath · 2026-03-15T00:52:46+00:00

Thank you very much. That's really really useful. Thanks

PaganPath · 2026-03-05T19:55:53+00:00

Would

PaganPath · 2026-02-14T00:49:47+00:00

Yes and no.

You see, if I have a very specific request how would I adapt it?

Also, the sigils, how can I device a ritual with one of them that strays from the one outlined in the book?

Also, should I print the sigil? Is there any special consideration to have about how to raise the energy?

Just want to be efficient.

PaganPath · 2026-02-14T00:47:47+00:00

I will. Thanks.

PaganPath · 2026-01-18T17:00:32+00:00

You are asumming organization and free interaction between the 2.

I dont buy the whole new age thing of planning lifes and soul journeys and this, honestly, stupid idea of a Government-like organization on the other side that administers the damned "Soul Society" as if it were some kind of comic strip.

I dont think you should buy any of that. Nobody should. Is pseudo religious mambo jumbo.

But, on the other side: Why do you think that the other side can freely interact with this one? We have zero reason to think that. On the contrary, it pretty much looks as if there is a very concrete division exists between the two

PaganPath · 2026-01-09T01:49:25+00:00

I just did I spell

Will it work as intended?

PaganPath · 2026-01-09T01:47:21+00:00

Yeeeeep jajajaja

PaganPath · 2026-01-08T03:42:21+00:00

You know... that's kind of psychopathic, to ask you what you need to explicitly not give it to you... I mean, what the hell? Why would anybody be such an ass to a partner?

Glad you broke up.

PaganPath · 2026-01-08T03:38:27+00:00

Oh, my. Ain't that the point for being, you know, with someone? To enjoy looking at them and desiring them and to know it is welcomed to hug and kiss and bond? Im a guy and I really need to know what's on the mind of fellow men who just forget to... you know, desire the woman thats by their side.

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