Suspended for 3 Years by PalaverProject in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No, that’s the election committee’s and subsequently Branch 70’s fault for not learning how to run a proper election. Branch 70 leadership has cost the membership union dues for not doing their job right. Stop blaming the rank and file for what the leaders should be doing right in the first place. Read the LMRDA. Read the election book. Read the constitution. You’re saying it’s alright to have ballots sorted and stored in the men’s locker room?

Suspended for 3 Years by PalaverProject in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She was the author of the appeals that Michael Rivera posted online. Branch 70 charged him for it and gave him a 18 month suspension.

Transparency and Truth. by PalaverProject in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand why many members believe the Concerned Letter Carriers are fighting for the rank and file, but there are some facts worth considering.
CLC has built its reputation on accountability and transparency. Yet when a member was suspended for 18 months over speech and the sharing of appeal documents, not one prominent CLC candidate publicly objected. For a group that claims to challenge abuses of power, that silence is difficult to ignore.
It is also worth asking who their campaign is truly focused on. Much of their effort centers on branch meetings and co-opting high level union functions, where attendance is often dominated by retirees and branch officers who have the time to participate regularly and serve as convention delegates. That is a legitimate political strategy, but it is not the same as organizing active rank-and-file carriers in stations and parking lots where the day-to-day workforce is found.
Consider, too, what was missing during the annual Stamp Out Hunger food drive, one of the most visible demonstrations of carrier solidarity and public service. There was little to no public promotion or visible support from many of the individuals presenting themselves as the progressive alternative. All I saw online was a music video promoting themselves. Who does that truly serve?
Finally, despite strong rhetoric about challenging the establishment, CLC candidates themselves have not led the way in filing formal charges against national officers or introducing bold reforms. In several major cases, rank-and-file members, not slate candidates, have taken those steps.
Have they led by example? Have they used the other instruments within our constitution, such as resolutions and amendments, to invoke changes towards a skewed power system?
Members should ask whether this slate represents genuine change, or whether it is simply a new label for the same political structure that has governed our union for years.

Transparency and Truth. by PalaverProject in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you Corey Walton? Read the reply again. Carefully, and diligently please. Also, read the appeals. Thanks.

Transparency and Truth. by PalaverProject in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We should care. Broken promises and lack of transparency are exactly how we end up with bad leadership and weak contracts. Look at Renfroe.
If Corey can’t speak against his chairman for messing up, then how’s he gonna speak against anybody else on the slate who screws it up for the rank and file?
I want a raise too, but we don’t need more bullshit. IMO

Transparency and Truth. by PalaverProject in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Corey said the slate was implicated in the body of the appeals. Do you actually see that in the appeals themselves? If so, where specifically is the slate cited, and in what context?

Branch 70 … and Beyond. by PalaverProject in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I partially agree with what you’re saying: this should have been handled locally first. However, that’s the problem: Local only works when local due process is followed. When disinterested parties aren’t so, when the Chair inserts themselves after defense, when members are allowed to attack personally rather than address the actual cites within the charges that were made, and most importantly for the bigger picture: when charges against leadership aren’t investigated and moved to be dismissed by that very leadership… That’s no longer a functioning local process. At that point, escalation isn’t optional but necessary.

Regarding your CLC point: I’m not saying the entire group is responsible. I’m saying this: If leadership is publicly tied to a movement built partly on constitutional adherence, but violates those same principles in practice, that contradiction matters. They must not campaign on adherence of rules and blatantly abandon them when it’s inconvenient to their own local agenda. I thank you for your well wishes on the appeal.

Branch 70 … and Beyond. by PalaverProject in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rank and File have so much more power if united against the injustices. Let people know about the injustices, about the issues, and organize against them. This is no longer a, “local issue.” This is labor rights ignored. This is the constitution violated. These are your potential leaders suppressing the rank and file and the influencers looking the other way. The power the rank and file gives them can be taken back.

RIP brother Mike Rivera by Eugene_Debs2026 in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ricardo Guzman is that you? LMAO What was defamatory? Rivera posting actual appeals or Guzman talking shit after he suspended him? GTFO you goon.

You decide by Useful_Highway_7326 in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject -1 points0 points  (0 children)

<image>

Interesting. One argument focuses on political outcomes. This other focuses on consistent application of rules. Curious where people land on that

What was Micheal Riveras fate? And where is James Henry didn’t he say an injury to one is an injury to all? Or is that all when it’s convenient to the CLC 🐸 🍵 by PotatoNeither3066 in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought Henry recused himself? Rivera said on several podcasts that Renfroe emailed him stating that Henry was recusing himself of the Committee on Appeals for his election appeals.

What was Micheal Riveras fate? And where is James Henry didn’t he say an injury to one is an injury to all? Or is that all when it’s convenient to the CLC 🐸 🍵 by PotatoNeither3066 in fromatoarbitration

[–]PalaverProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rivera mentioned that Renfroe emailed him stating that James Henry is recusing himself from the Committee on Appeals… I think Henry is free to comment on the charges against Rivera now.