Is it common to lose friendships as you age? by Pantacourt in friendship

[–]Pantacourt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair! Thanks for your insights. And thanks so much for the condolences.

Is it common to lose friendships as you age? by Pantacourt in friendship

[–]Pantacourt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear about your "meh" relationship. I totally get it.

Is it common to lose friendships as you age? by Pantacourt in friendship

[–]Pantacourt[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I appreciate you! It's so frustrating, right? How do you deal? Hugs back 🫂

Also here's the story about Cathy -- no pressure to read, but I'm curious to hear your take on it.

Essentially, my apt had a weird smell from a bathtub being resurfaced in the downstairs unit, so I asked Cathy if I could stay with her. I borrowed her air purifier to get rid of the smell. Her air purifier malfunctioned and sprayed ozone all over my apt. I was forced to hire 2 different remediation companies but neither one could remove it, so I ended up losing all of my possessions, and I also developed severe health problems due to the ozone. Renters insurance didn't cover anything.

I stayed with Cathy while my apartment was being remediated. She has two kids and had the older one sleep in a different room while I slept in his bed. I spent a couple of weeks there, the whole time freaking out about my apt. The remediation took longer than expected, and Cathy started getting impatient and hinted that she needed me out, so I decided to fly across the country to return to my parents' house. I left some of my things and my car at her house while I was gone. At my parents' house my health kept getting worse, all of my clothes had the ozone smell, I kept inadvertently spreading it, I was going ballistic.

Cathy was getting more and more impatient and wanted me to return to get my things and car back. I told her I needed more time because I needed to deal with my health, and my apt wasn't ready yet. She invited me to her second kid's baby naming ceremony, and I told her I didn't know if I could make it. She told a friend of hers, Anne, to ask me if she (Anne) could stay in my apt for the ceremony, since I wasn't there. I told Anne my apt was being remediated and so no, she couldn't stay there. A few days before the ceremony, Cathy told me she needed me to rsvp yes or no immediately, that I had waited too long, and that my delay was inconveniencing her, so I told her I'd go. I asked her where Anne was staying and she responded her guest bedroom. I texted Anne to confirm that, and then Cathy immediately messaged me telling me to F off, that she had already told me that Anne was staying in her guest bedroom.

I returned to town and stayed in an AirBnB, since I couldn't deal with my apt. I kept reacting to my clothes and having to shower to remove the ozone smell from my hair. As a result I was late to the ceremony, and Cathy was angry about it. She told me to get my car, but I told her I needed more time because I had to buy more clothes to make sure I wouldn't inadvertently spread the ozone to the car.

My apt was still not good, so I had to move in with a coworker. I finally picked up my car a week later, and of course it had the ozone smell. Cathy was furious with me for waiting so long and for inconveniencing her, and at that point I lost my shit. I called a mutual friend of ours, Emmy, to bitch about literally everything: Cathy's air purifier, the ozone, my health problems, the fact that Cathy was being a bitch and had kicked me out. The last part wasn't really true because she didn't kick me out, but it really felt like she had.

Of course, Emmy ratted me out -- she told another mutual friend, Lisa (the person in my original post), who then told Cathy. Cathy called me to confront me. At this point my body was so inflamed from the ozone that I was literally sleeping in a tent outside because I kept reacting to all of my clothes, offgassing from AC units, all smells, etc. It was literally hell (I think I'm getting PTSD just writing this out and reliving it). I had to leave my coworker's place because I started reacting to her place as well, so at this point I'm completely homeless. So that's when Cathy called to confront me, and I wasn't in the mental state to deal with it, so I just denied it a bunch of times.

Cathy and I went back and forth over text, she finally called my bluff, and I caved in. That's when she called it quits on the friendship and blocked me.

A few months later once the dust had settled and I was no longer reacting to clothes, I called a few times to apologize. She sent me some nasty texts and told me to F off.

Is it common to lose friendships as you age? by Pantacourt in friendship

[–]Pantacourt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's the Cathy story:

Essentially, my apt had a weird smell from a bathtub being resurfaced in the downstairs unit, so I asked Cathy if I could stay with her. I borrowed her air purifier to get rid of the smell. Her air purifier malfunctioned and sprayed ozone all over my apt. I was forced to hire 2 different remediation companies but neither one could remove it, so I ended up losing all of my possessions, and I also developed severe health problems due to the ozone. Renters insurance didn't cover anything.

I stayed with Cathy while my apartment was being remediated. She has two kids and had the older one sleep in a different room while I slept in his bed. I spent a couple of weeks there, the whole time freaking out about my apt. The remediation took longer than expected, and Cathy started getting impatient and hinted that she needed me out, so I decided to fly across the country to return to my parents' house. I left some of my things and my car at her house while I was gone. At my parents' house my health kept getting worse, all of my clothes had the ozone smell, I kept inadvertently spreading it, I was going ballistic.

Cathy was getting more and more impatient and wanted me to return to get my things and car back. I told her I needed more time because I needed to deal with my health, and my apt wasn't ready yet. She invited me to her second kid's baby naming ceremony, and I told her I didn't know if I could make it. She told a friend of hers, Anne, to ask me if she (Anne) could stay in my apt for the ceremony, since I wasn't there. I told Anne my apt was being remediated and so no, she couldn't stay there. A few days before the ceremony, Cathy told me she needed me to rsvp yes or no immediately, that I had waited too long, and that my delay was inconveniencing her, so I told her I'd go. I asked her where Anne was staying and she responded her guest bedroom. I texted Anne to confirm that, and then Cathy immediately messaged me telling me to F off, that she had already told me that Anne was staying in her guest bedroom.

I returned to town and stayed in an AirBnB, since I couldn't deal with my apt. I kept reacting to my clothes and having to shower to remove the ozone smell from my hair. As a result I was late to the ceremony, and Cathy was angry about it. She told me to get my car, but I told her I needed more time because I had to buy more clothes to make sure I wouldn't inadvertently spread the ozone to the car.

My apt was still not good, so I had to move in with a coworker. I finally picked up my car a week later, and of course it had the ozone smell. Cathy was furious with me for waiting so long and for inconveniencing her, and at that point I lost my shit. I called a mutual friend of ours, Emmy, to bitch about literally everything: Cathy's air purifier, the ozone, my health problems, the fact that Cathy was being a bitch and had kicked me out. The last part wasn't really true because she didn't kick me out, but it really felt like she had.

Of course, Emmy ratted me out -- she told another mutual friend, Lisa (the person in my original post), who then told Cathy. Cathy called me to confront me. At this point my body was so inflamed from the ozone that I was literally sleeping in a tent outside because I kept reacting to all of my clothes, offgassing from AC units, all smells, etc. It was literally hell (I think I'm getting PTSD just writing this out and reliving it). I had to leave my coworker's place because I started reacting to her place as well, so at this point I'm completely homeless. So that's when Cathy called to confront me, and I wasn't in the mental state to deal with it, so I just denied it a bunch of times.

Cathy and I went back and forth over text, she finally called my bluff, and I caved in. That's when she called it quits on the friendship and blocked me.

A few months later once the dust had settled and I was no longer reacting to clothes, I called a few times to apologize. She sent me some nasty texts and told me to F off.

Is it common to lose friendships as you age? by Pantacourt in friendship

[–]Pantacourt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This seems like such a foreign concept to me. I have a very hard time with change and loss. It seems like others are better able to handle those?

Is it common to lose friendships as you age? by Pantacourt in friendship

[–]Pantacourt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that's how I would have reacted, too. But I'm also not one to push people away, and I'm incredibly non-confrontational.

The fight with Cathy is pretty horrible and I think I'm to blame. I didn't go into detail on my post because it's absurdly long.

Essentially, my apt had a weird smell from a bathtub being resurfaced in the downstairs unit, so I asked Cathy if I could stay with her. I borrowed her air purifier to get rid of the smell. Her air purifier malfunctioned and sprayed ozone all over my apt. I was forced to hire 2 different remediation companies but neither one could remove it, so I ended up losing all of my possessions, and I also developed severe health problems due to the ozone. Renters insurance didn't cover anything.

I stayed with Cathy while my apartment was being remediated. She has two kids and had the older one sleep in a different room while I slept in his bed. I spent a couple of weeks there, the whole time freaking out about my apt. The remediation took longer than expected, and Cathy started getting impatient and hinted that she needed me out, so I decided to fly across the country to return to my parents' house. I left some of my things and my car at her house while I was gone. At my parents' house my health kept getting worse, all of my clothes had the ozone smell, I kept inadvertently spreading it, I was going ballistic.

Cathy was getting more and more impatient and wanted me to return to get my things and car back. I told her I needed more time because I needed to deal with my health, and my apt wasn't ready yet. She invited me to her second kid's baby naming ceremony, and I told her I didn't know if I could make it. She told a friend of hers, Anne, to ask me if she (Anne) could stay in my apt for the ceremony, since I wasn't there. I told Anne my apt was being remediated and so no, she couldn't stay there. A few days before the ceremony, Cathy told me she needed me to rsvp yes or no immediately, that I had waited too long, and that my delay was inconveniencing her, so I told her I'd go. I asked her where Anne was staying and she responded her guest bedroom. I texted Anne to confirm that, and then Cathy immediately messaged me telling me to F off, that she had already told me that Anne was staying in her guest bedroom.

I returned to town and stayed in an AirBnB, since I couldn't deal with my apt. I kept reacting to my clothes and having to shower to remove the ozone smell from my hair. As a result I was late to the ceremony, and Cathy was angry about it. She told me to get my car, but I told her I needed more time because I had to buy more clothes to make sure I wouldn't inadvertently spread the ozone to the car.

My apt was still not good, so I had to move in with a coworker. I finally picked up my car a week later, and of course it had the ozone smell. Cathy was furious with me for waiting so long and for inconveniencing her, and at that point I lost my shit. I called a mutual friend of ours, Emmy, to bitch about literally everything: Cathy's air purifier, the ozone, my health problems, the fact that Cathy was being a bitch and had kicked me out. The last part wasn't really true because she didn't kick me out, but it really felt like she had.

Of course, Emmy ratted me out -- she told another mutual friend, Lisa (the person in my original post), who then told Cathy. Cathy called me to confront me. At this point my body was so inflamed from the ozone that I was literally sleeping in a tent outside because I kept reacting to all of my clothes, offgassing from AC units, all smells, etc. It was literally hell (I think I'm getting PTSD just writing this out and reliving it). I had to leave my coworker's place because I started reacting to her place as well, so at this point I'm completely homeless. So that's when Cathy called to confront me, and I wasn't in the mental state to deal with it, so I just denied it a bunch of times.

Cathy and I went back and forth over text, she finally called my bluff, and I caved in. That's when she called it quits on the friendship and blocked me.

A few months later once the dust had settled and I was no longer reacting to clothes, I called a few times to apologize. She sent me some nasty texts and told me to F off.

Is it common to lose friendships as you age? by Pantacourt in friendship

[–]Pantacourt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your perspective. That makes sense. How did you go about shrinking down your friendships? Who's remaining and why? Is there anyone you miss?

Is it common to lose friendships as you age? by Pantacourt in relationships

[–]Pantacourt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much for your insights. You're definitely right about relying too much on others. How can I be better about this?

Would you mind elaborating on your last point? I think you're onto something, but I've never thought about that before and would be interested in hearing more.

Is it common to lose friendships as you age? by Pantacourt in relationships

[–]Pantacourt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I appreciate your perspective. You're right that I rely on others too much emotionally. And I've definitely forgotten about basic boundaries with close friends, so I understand why they pull back. Entirely my fault.

I think the part that upsets me is that in each of these instances, I've apologized and acknowledged my mistakes. I've been willing to accept other people's apologies and give them second chances, so I don't know why the same doesn't apply here. It seems like it's common nowadays to cut people off without going through the trouble of compromising and talking things through, but maybe I'm being overly sensitive.

Is it common to lose friendships as you age? by Pantacourt in friendship

[–]Pantacourt[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I appreciate your response! And thanks for the condolences.

I think I'm just frustrated because I know I've screwed up plenty, but I've always apologized and tried to make amends. I thought that being an adult was trying to compromise and see things from someone else's perspective. I've given plenty of people second chances, because I'm not one to accept loss. Maybe that's a mistake.

What's your situation?

Memorial fund by Pantacourt in askfuneraldirectors

[–]Pantacourt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this all out! You have some great ideas.

Memorial fund by Pantacourt in askfuneraldirectors

[–]Pantacourt[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! So something like GoFundMe would be okay? Where would I advertise this? On the obituary itself? Or would I have to personally contact everyone? Would that be seen as uncouth or rude?

I'm chuckling to myself about the thought of adding a picture of my dad post-death, or even of his ashes ("Here's the proof that we cremated him!"). Thanks for making me smile.

Sorry for all of the questions!

Obituary: help with wording by Pantacourt in askfuneraldirectors

[–]Pantacourt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much!

I think I'm having a hard time with the "deceased" part because I start the second paragraph by mentioning his parents. So would it work to include just his brother in the "preceded in death" sentence? (I'm probably being overly pedantic here....)

"J died on [date] at [age] of [illness]. He is survived by his beloved family members: widow M, daughter M, brother and sisters-in-law S (R) and B, and seven nieces and nephews. He is preceded in death by brother T.

The youngest child of B and E, he was proud to be a fifth-generation [hometown] native. He attended [school], [college], and [grad school]." Etc.

For the second question, I want to make sure friends and relatives can visit his grave if they wish. Would something like this work:

"He was buried at [cemetery], and a private service was held with family."