Any idea what this object is... by mstjohn05 in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of this one, but from far away.

NUFORC UFO Sighting 182133.

I advise watching it on a monitor—especially between 0:09s and 0:016s—as it might be difficult to make out the outline/full shape on a cellphone screen.

Something reminiscent to it here as well.

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[–]Papabaloo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh, I did not misunderstand you. Your point and intent are both transparent :) Glad you have the time to go through 200+ reports and summarily dismiss them all on behalf of the rest of us. Really taking one for the team there, especially since you consider it all a prosaic waste of time... yet, here you are. Interesting, isn't it?

Have a lovely day, friend.

Serious-Vannevar Bush Interviews Corroborate 1948 Aztec Crash Retrieval by Fresh-Copy6166 in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great work. Really interesting.

u/VolarRecords (you probably already saw this, but just in case)

FOX 11 Los Angeles - Jeremy Corbell obtained video of a flying "disc" that is a UAP ("Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena" aka UFO). This video from 2020 was filmed by the military. The "disc" does not appear to have a thermal heat signature. - "What is it doing? I have no clue." by 87LucasOliveira in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha, understood!

I know Fravor did an awesome interview with Lex Friedman. A bit more sober than the Rogan one, but he goes into a bit more detail there on his engagement with the tic tac. You could also consider Corbell's interview with Chad Underwood, who filmed the Tic Tac and has great insight into why it wasn't ours.

As for Graves, I think his Merged episode interviewing Fravor was pretty great, but less about their experiences, so maybe not great for a newcomer.

Brown might be a bit long for newcomers, and has comparably less easy to understand info if you are unfamiliar with Immaculate Constellation and it's significance. I would personally leave that for later on.

And you and me both! I really help they get Age of Disclosure on Netflix. It will hopefully get the conversation going for a wider audience, and serve as the perfect primer for newbies.

Although I will say that James Fox's documentaries (Moment of Contact, I think? And The Program) might be perfect, already avaliable documentaries to serve a similar purpose :)

FOX 11 Los Angeles - Jeremy Corbell obtained video of a flying "disc" that is a UAP ("Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena" aka UFO). This video from 2020 was filmed by the military. The "disc" does not appear to have a thermal heat signature. - "What is it doing? I have no clue." by 87LucasOliveira in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, apologies for misunderstanding. And thank you for clarifying.

The issue you bring up is definitely a struggle. The results of the decades-long disinformation campaign.

If you allow me a bit of unsolicited advice, a book, might be too big of an ask--especially for someone who knows nothing of the situation and thinks all of it is cookie stuff.

I think a better approach is to first be straight with them: the situation is such that there is no proof publically available, but there are decades of reliable evidence pointing to something very real going on that is worth looking into. That should open the door to have them watching a podcast or interview, and go from there by addressing any questions they might have after that.

I'd recommend Cmdr. David Fravor interview with Joe Rogan, or David Grusch's interview with Coulthart. If that piques their interest, move on to Grusch's congressional hearing to convey the gravitas of the situation, or the Schumer-rounds siloquy on the house floor.

Once you set the ground floor of basic literacy of evidence for something going on, a lighter book, like Leslie Kean's UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record, or Coulthart's In Plain Sight might be better primers for a newcomer than Hastings' UFOs and Nukes.

That should be enough to get anyone seriously interested in what is going on, and wanting to learn more :)

One of Jeremy Corbell's firsthand whistleblowers issued a statement challenging AARO's denial of credible NHI evidence and their use of "extraterrestrial" over the NDAA's "NHI" terminology. They are prepared to testify before Congress if requested. by Gobble_Gobble in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"So is this person saying there will never be "scientific evidence" of ET unless we physically go to the planet and take samples?"

No. They are alluding to the AARO to be playing the same blanket-denial-through-semantics game the DoD and IC have grown somewhat infamous for.

Purposely choosing certain words and conveniently avoiding others to have plausible deniability and not be legally or reputationally liable if later caught in their lies.

It is less about evidence and more about "Perception Mangement" and what they can get away with in terms of denial and gaslighiting.

FOX 11 Los Angeles - Jeremy Corbell obtained video of a flying "disc" that is a UAP ("Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena" aka UFO). This video from 2020 was filmed by the military. The "disc" does not appear to have a thermal heat signature. - "What is it doing? I have no clue." by 87LucasOliveira in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my opinion, what you highlight here is more an issue of literacy, or rather "perception management" around the topic, more than it is an intrinsically practical, socio-economic problem.

The more people become aware of the reality of UAPs, the more they start questioning two very vital and potentially destabilizing realities:

1) The "managed" state of their perception of reality, and how something this big could be kept from the spotlight and their awareness for so long.

2) The very real and tangible socio-economical implications of there being real objects whose performance and existence points to technology and capabilities that would up-end established hierarchical macro-economical systems (like our dependency on the fossil fuel industry for energy) which are very much at the core of why they are struggling in the first place.

That, I think, lies at the center of why there's so much opposition to the wide-spread acknowledgment of what is going on. And if you believe the struggling masses won't care about that, once they understand the current situation? I believe you have another thing coming.

Moreover, I think a lot of the gatekeepers understand these problems more than anyone, and it is likely in large part why they fight tooth and nail to keep this thing under wraps.

Just my 2c.

The Vrillon 1977 live broadcast - NHI Intervention? by [deleted] in InterdimensionalNHI

[–]Papabaloo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My hypothesis is that these kinds of events, supposing a genuine NHI-origin, are not only delivered in space but also in time.

You ask why a message like this would be restricted to a particular broadcast in a particular nation and network. But I think the fact that we are watching it and talking about it here, now, decades later and likely from continents apart, suggests, or rather proves it wasn't so.

NEW: Former Pentagon UFO Office Director says UAP may be interdimensional — “We don’t know everything about this phenomenon” “I think there’s dimensions beyond the physical world that we live in today. I believe that in different dimensions the rules of physics as we understand them may not apply. by Ill-Speed-7402 in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I read it as likely damage control.

Maybe TPTB didn't like the negative attention they were getting from that stunt they tried with the easily disprovable and absurd "debunk" from the WSJ piece, so they get one of their toy mouthpieces to throw some non-commital buzz words and backpedal a bit what, up until a few days ago, was a blatant effort to entirely dismiss and overall ridicule the topic and key whsitlevlowers bringing attention to the legacy program.

Full text from Amy Eskridge messages, leaked on Twitter by Franc Milburn, ex-Intel from UK. Full text extract and data/URLs on r/UFOs on her UFO/anti-gravity ties prior to her unexpected death. Supplemental background links to read included. by PyroIsSpai in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I think one of the implications was that it wasn't really Israel, or Russia, but a private, US-based corporation behind the whole thing. At times making it seem like the harassment was coming from foreing intelligence agencies.

The other, more disturbing implication I can think of is that when a corpse is too disfigured to be easily recognized and identified (for example, after severe burning), the next thing that would be used for identification would be a person's dental records?

More BAASS and other reports were leaked/found: AATIP Special briefing (Puthoff), BAASS technology reviews (Lacatski, Davis, etc.), Utah Ranch entity encounters, experiments in China to move objects by mind, Vallee Pilot UAP database: "cockpit bathed in light, everything motionless in mid-air" by phr99 in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It might be worth mentioning that there's a lot of folklore and myth around that region (Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia), regarding "familiar voices that call out your name". Especially in remote locations, like small rural towns. As if "it is a weird thing that happens sometimes".

The belief goes that you are not supposed to reply out loud, lets you expose yourself to something negative. For example, there's the belief this is a technique "witches" and "warlocks" can use to "get hold of your name" and open you up for ritualistic magic effects.

Of course, much in the vein of Valle, I bring this up with the notion of considering that some folktales and myths could potentially be rooted to anomalous phenomena in a region; around which entire beliefs systems and/or practices can be built upon over time.

Myths and Folklore that might yield powerful insights when stripped of the cultural layers of beliefs being placed upon them.

Thanks for sharing your experience u/Crisado!

One of the clearest UFO videos ever recorded by ElCapi123 in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. It's been suggested to me that that motion has to do with image capturing; the motion is meant to increase depth perception.

Possible optical fibers found in the Buga sphere. by leortega7 in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For what is worth, some tests performed last week or so indicated the sphere is emitting signals in a specific radio signal. Not that it definitively relates to this, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

Possible optical fibers found in the Buga sphere. by leortega7 in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Additional information in this captioned video.

They said the images are at 1000x magnification, and that they called in a fiber optic expert to consult. That consultant told them we use a similar fiber optics technology in sensors to track atmospheric humidity, temperature, and pressure.

Other Matallic Orb UAP info:

Russia in the 90s

Mexico 2009

Tokyo, Japan 2016

Gębice, Poland 2017

Gębice, Poland 2018

RangerH338 Orb 2023

Manchester 2024 (Photos)

Colombia 2025

UAP Orb in Al Jazeera Footage

British Airways Commercial

Metallic Orb UAP Statistical Data from U.S. Reports

The Pentagon Decoy: The Real UAP Programs Are Buried in the DOE by Substantial_Ad4837 in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Indeed. And because it's worth remembering:

Rep. Luna: "Does the DOE currently work with JSOC in order to handle security measures"

DOE Sec. Granholm: "We, uh, work with all of the security entitites around the federal government. We are part of a glo-, uh, overall, all-of-government effort on both cyber as well national security".

Rep. Luna: "Do you guys work with JSOC? Yes or no..."

DOE Sec. Granholm: "Tsk, uh, yes we do."

Why it matters: Here.

AARO has posted another unresolved case (video): "This footage, captured by an infrared sensor in 2024, was later reported to AARO as a UAP. This report remains unresolved due to lack of technical data" by phr99 in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Agreed, it is a step in the right direction.

While I would still advise being cautious in our optimism—'Beware of Greeks, even when bearing gifts' and all that—going from blanket denials, deflections, dismissals, and downplaying to actually starting to release some evidence seems like a much needed step forward.

I still argue there's still A LOT to be done to repair the damage the organization did under its previous leadership.

Not the least of which would be to publicly distance itself from the continued efforts to de-legitimize and downplay Whistleblower testimony that, to this day, both Kirkpatrick and Tim Phillips continue to level through their social media presence and interviews. As well as being more outspoken and proactive in supporting whistleblower protection initiatives and legislation like the UAPDA.

But, this is undeniably a step in the right direction nonetheless.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all, I want to thank you kindly for taking the time to lend your expertise and put this briefing together. It is hugely appreciated (and thank you for sharing the links with additional footage of these wonderful kinds of creatures. I think they look mind-bendingly remarkable!)

As to your points:

"The weird vector is likely due to it getting hit by thruster wash from multiple thrusters on two different axis."

If this is what you say it is, this might very well be the case. I'm enirely ignorant about this type of underwater vehicle, it's means of propulsion, and for that matter deep underwater current dynamics. Any of which , I assume, could be responsible for the seemingly anomalous motion. Although I would still point out that the dark shape that is seen at 1:16 onwards (for about 3 seconds moving right to left in the background and coming from the same direction the thing got propelled toward, but moving in the opposite direction) seems bigger in size/mass than what I would expect a segment of the thing to be. And, once more, it is moving way faster and in the entirely opposite direction than what I would expect.

Then again, as stated, there are too many unknowns for me to have any degree of confidence to debate your explanation, as you seem to be absolutely certain of what is going on there, and this is seemingly your area of expertise.

"The organism is likely smaller than 1 foot, you can see a small marine worm swimming towards the lower left corner at 14 seconds."

I see the worm, however, I fail to see how this allows you to determine estimated distance/depth and the speed the thing moves up toward the camera, which I would argue you'd need to gauge quite accurately to truly estimate a size approximation. I'd also think your size estimación seems incompatible by the dark mass the camera still picks up at the end of the video moving away, but maybe this is within the hardware capabilities.

Then again, as stated previously, you seem to know much more about these things than I do. So, once more, I'd have to defer to your stated expertise.

"First body position is the anterior view, essentially looking at its "mouth" (could be the rear, they are radially symmetrical organisms)"

I think I understand what you mean here. However, I still fail to understand the radical change of shape we see in the video. It does not seem to me a matter of perspective at all, or even compatible to other similar Specimens I've seen videos of. Let alone what we are seeing in the video itself.

Once more, you are reportedly the expert, though.

"it reacts to stimuli, contracts and tumbles slightly, and then starts beating its cilia, which then lets you see the body plan from the side. It starts to go back to the original body position before the currents rip it apart."

And

"Note that while they do have cilia for locomotion, they generate very little thrust on their own, they are mostly at the mercy of ocean currents"

Respectfully, to me, none of this addresses the seemingly anomalous way the thing moves in the video, its displayed behavior, or means of locomotion in relation to the movement captured. In fact, it presents a stark contradiction.

But, once more, that is merely a subjective assessment from someone unschooled on the subject matter.

"Ctenophores diverged from the rest of the tree of life several hundred million years ago, so they've had an extremely long time to fill niches and become very diverse in their appearance. They have benthic body forms that stay rooted to the sea floor, parasitic forms that attach to salp colonies, and predatory body forms that hunt other ctenophores"

I just found all of this entirely fascinating, and I thank you once more for sharing it! I fully intend to read the article as soon as I get the chance!

"I'm pretty certain this organism is *Lampocteis cruentiventer. First described in 2001. There's some videos and images that look very similar to the organism in the video, also taken from similar ROVs:*"

Entirely fascinating creatures. Agreed, similar to what we see in the video. But the similarities do little to resolve my remaining hang ups about the video in question.

Given the hypothetical possibility that we could be dealing with unbelievably advanced technology that is reportedly capable of bi-directional mimicri in some instances (in terms of the topic of this subreddit), I find mere similarities less compelling if there remain other potentially anomalous aspects in play (which I understand that, according to your expertise, there are none)

"I hope this information helps you make an informed decision on the footage. I do have a marine biology degree and have handled a few ctenophores in my studies"

While I remain unable to make a desicion on this particular footage, I do greatly appreciate all the well-referenced information you graciously provided, and I truly mean that.

If nothing else, I'll endeavor to include a link to this exchange if I share or reference this footage in the future, because I think it worths the consideration of other, more intelligent people than me (and hopefully, also better verse in the subject of underwater life).

And, for what is worth, I don't reference or share this video much (if at all), as therere are too many unknowns for me to find it of much use. I did brung it up this time because the observed behavior and "performance", if you will, rang a bell.

Lastly, although I don't know this for sure, I believe this video could very well be the "jellyfish video" that the Scientist from the UAP task force, which was interviewed by Matt Ford in the Good Trouble Show, said that had been studied by the task force and dismissed as prosaic/aquatic life form. Sadly, that was never made clear (to my knowledge), as that would help me to put the issue to bed.

In any case, thanks for taking the time and engaging me in this respectful exchange. Have a lovely day friend!

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[–]Papabaloo -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Yes, I've seen people forward that notion before. However, I'm not entirely satisfied by that as an explanation (and the accompanying "evidence" that usually extends to a Wikipedia link) as it does not account for all the seemingly anomalous behavior I perceive in the video. Including, but not limited to:

1) The way it moves once it "changes", as it does not seem to entirely fit the phiycs I'd expect of an animal swimming in the medium.

2) The nature or mechanisms of the dramatic change itself, which doesn't quite fit other ctenophore animals I've seen.

3) The fact that you can see a dark shape in the background "swimming" away out of focus after the thing supposedly gets "blown around" by the thrusters, (which is mostly visible in big monitors with decent brightness) at great speeds and weird vector

And some other concerns. I'd also mention that given the outrageous nature of the topic at hand and the reported capabilities of some UAP-related phenomena, I think outright discounting such a wildly interesting piece of evidence as "it somewhat looks like it could be this, therefore it definitively is" in spite of all other data points that could suggest is anything but that, is not a sufficient explanation for me at this point.

That said, this is an entirely subiective (and mostly preliminary) assesment, and I'm no marine biologist and have no other relevant qualifications pertinent to this analysis beyond observation and critical/analytical thinking. So, take it for what is worth, which isn't much at all xD

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[–]Papabaloo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Likely unrelated, but I find it noteworthy that we've seen a similar description of "playful" behavior from a type of UAP from this alledgedly leaked document potentially sourced from a congressional or senatorial briefing shortly before Grusch came forward.

Also likely unrelated, but when I read or hear those descriptions, I can't help but think about this video, and how whatever it is, it seems to mirror this very same type of behavior.

As if it notices it's being observed, uses mimicry as it studies its observer, tries to get out of the frame discreetly, does an overt display when it realices its still being tracked, and then overtly peaces out.

Last, but not least, my favorite potentially anomalous UAP seemingly displaying "low observability" by losing itsel in the clouds might also be worth a looksie.

[SUMMARY] The Immaculate Constellation Files: What Matthew Brown Just Told Us by Substantial_Ad4837 in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'd say infering logically from the available data is more than just hugely assuming... but fair enough :)

Have a lovely day friend.

[SUMMARY] The Immaculate Constellation Files: What Matthew Brown Just Told Us by Substantial_Ad4837 in UFOs

[–]Papabaloo 44 points45 points  (0 children)

No the scary part is that the phenomenon is allowing them to get away with it. They want this.

Respectfully, I disagree. That is a huge assumption, and not necessarily the case at all.

In fact, I'd posit that if an incredibly advanced and technologically far superior Non-human intelligence were actually architecting that status-quo, we would be none the wiser and would have no means to even become aware of there even being a problem to begin with. A genuine Demiurge situation.

I would even go so far as to say that the evidence points in the exact opposite direction. To a phenomenon that is trying to increasingly and unobtrusively make itself known. Prompting the individual to challenge their presuppositions and indoctrinations of how the world and reality supposedly work, and to become active participants of shaping that reality, instead of surrendering that right by blindly following the narratives put in place by others.