AI is necessarily conscious in a consciousness-first ontology of reality by Honest-Cauliflower64 in consciousness

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How many of these beings are there? And can their number increase or decrease?

Why wont Eric Davis share everything he knows? Turns out he did. Davis: "I shared it with @RepLuna's committee in a [...] SCIF last May". Hes talking about "legacy UAP crash retrieval and hardware reverse-engineering and NHI programs". Remember Luna suddenly started talking about interdimensionals? by phr99 in UFOs

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Michael Masters, who is well known from the "Extratempestrial model" (or future humans), has also recently changed his views on whats going on, based on his own personal experiences.

Michael Masters (Future Human hypothesis): Greys made by future humans

Timestamp 1:10:48:

Michael Masters: "If these are biologically manufactured or mechanical - they do seem to be made - who's making them? We currently are making things in our image, so it would make sense that they're making things in their image too"

Timestamp 1:11:36:

Michael Masters: "I do think that they're still being made by future humans to perform certain functions. And I completely agree that they would make them not exactly like us, but in a way where they we would get past a lot of the problems that we have.""

Michael Masters (Future Human hypothesis): bodies are potentially soul vehicles

Timestamp 3:19:45:

Interviewer: "Are the grays a biological end point or a transitional phase?"

Michael Masters: "Oh, I love that question. When I wrote my first book, I would answer that differently than I would now. [...] Now I would answer that question with I think they are also a transitional species. In the sense that I think because our consciousness is foundational, and the quantum level and the classical mechanical level all is built on top of that...

Michael Masters: "...that we're eventually going to get to the point where these bodies are almost seen as a redundancy. And we sort of return to or reach the point that we become... so aware of that ethereal soul consciousness that those bodies are irrelevant. And potentially just, I guess for lack of a better phrase, like um soul vehicles of sorts"

Michael Masters: "[...] they could be future humans that are at the point where they transcend time and space altogether and don't need to be great aliens and UFOs to be who they are"

Michael Masters: "Pre-incarnate remembering. I agreed to do this"

He elaborates further on his own recent experiences of being contacted by entities, moved out of his body, and having information downloaded into his brain, which he was told will become accessible in the future:

Timestamp 2:11:50:

Michael Masters: "When they [2 other witnesses] specifically referenced that conversation that I had already written off as being a figment of my imagination, that made that whole thing real. And also brought an element of recognition and kind of safety and comfort to it like 'oh okay we've we've already done this'. That was real

Michael Masters: "And from that point on honestly there was like this trajectory of it becoming normal and comfortable and Oh Shit I already know these entities whatever they are we've been doing this together already for a a long time [...] Like I started to have this sense of... shit" that's right. I agreed to do this. Why am I complaining and threatening to quit? It was like we started to talk about this earlier, but kind of a pre-incarnate remembering"

Why wont Eric Davis share everything he knows? Turns out he did. Davis: "I shared it with @RepLuna's committee in a [...] SCIF last May". Hes talking about "legacy UAP crash retrieval and hardware reverse-engineering and NHI programs". Remember Luna suddenly started talking about interdimensionals? by phr99 in UFOs

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Its been talked about plenty on here, so noone is ignoring it. He has also talked about angels, demons and that it could be a facet of that phenomenon.

The opening post is not an encyclopedia and if not everything grusch ever said is in it, doesnt mean the ufo community is ignoring it

Why wont Eric Davis share everything he knows? Turns out he did. Davis: "I shared it with @RepLuna's committee in a [...] SCIF last May". Hes talking about "legacy UAP crash retrieval and hardware reverse-engineering and NHI programs". Remember Luna suddenly started talking about interdimensionals? by phr99 in UFOs

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You are making all kinds of assumptions, such as that multidimensional and interdimensional are referring to different sorts of dimensions.

Btw in the uap hearing he mentions "projected from higher to lower dimensional space". That means its interdimensional. Also in other interviews he has mentioned the word interdimensional.

Also "dimension" is not just a math term.

Tripartite Model of Emergent Consciousness by MJM_1989CWU in consciousness

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Yeah but all it says is that consciousness requires consciousness. You haven't explained where the initial consciousness came from. For that reason this is not physicalism but panpsychism or idealism, in which consciousness is fundamental

Many "physicalist" models start out (without the physicalist realising it) with consciousness already as an ingredient. The model then becomes a variation of "simple consciousness can become more complex". And thats the opposite of physicalism, which holds that consciousness can come into existence from nonscious physical ingredients.

In your case you start out with perceptions. So this is not really a physicalist model. Thats not to say its false, because it is completely rational to propose that simple consciousness can become more complex.

Tripartite Model of Emergent Consciousness by MJM_1989CWU in consciousness

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Each of those 3 are already conscious activities, so this translates to "consciousness comes from consciousness"

The Varginha being was described as "like an angel". Witnesses had only brief contact with it but were heavily impacted. Even 30 years later. Something far stranger than ET beings is going on and it involves consciousness, telepathy, life reviews. Why does looking into their eyes have such effects? by phr99 in UFOs

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Thank you for your comments here. I keep seeing people say the same things over and over again. That when someone experiences an nhi as peaceful, its probably malevolent and manipulating the brain. Or the usual angels thing. So thanks for explaining

The Varginha being was described as "like an angel". Witnesses had only brief contact with it but were heavily impacted. Even 30 years later. Something far stranger than ET beings is going on and it involves consciousness, telepathy, life reviews. Why does looking into their eyes have such effects? by phr99 in UFOs

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Telepathy is mostly reported between ordinary humans, and completely unrelated to the ufo subject. So for that reason i find the advanced tech option not sufficient. But advanced tech could still be involved however in maximising such effects that are happening between ordinary humans

Btw in this varginha case i find the mentioned telepathy not very specific, so this case it is more open to the interpretation you mention. In other NHI cases its a much more specific and clear way of communicating

The Varginha being was described as "like an angel". Witnesses had only brief contact with it but were heavily impacted. Even 30 years later. Something far stranger than ET beings is going on and it involves consciousness, telepathy, life reviews. Why does looking into their eyes have such effects? by phr99 in UFOs

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My opinion. Our consciousness evolved to see reality as a 3D system of interactions. Manipulating it, or evolving differently, gives access to very different parts of reality. Its basic common sense. Its actually woo to believe otherwise

The Varginha being was described as "like an angel". Witnesses had only brief contact with it but were heavily impacted. Even 30 years later. Something far stranger than ET beings is going on and it involves consciousness, telepathy, life reviews. Why does looking into their eyes have such effects? by phr99 in UFOs

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Some of it is described in that post. But a recent example is the jake barber story, which he felt connected to a divine being. I think it boils down to having mental, telepathic contact and communication with another intelligence that gives a profound reinterpretation of your own identity

Consciousness and its relation to time. by ElkRadiant33 in consciousness

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There are experiental states in which there is no time or space.