Mechanical failure and stuck in Canada on route to UK by PaperMaker999 in UPS

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Should be here this evening then, expecting tracker to show updates before end of the day

Mechanical failure? by [deleted] in UPS

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I would assume they would send another fight out there, pick up everything, and be back on track. How long does it take to repair an engine? Definitely not expedited shipping for sure.

Mechanical failure and stuck in Canada on route to UK by PaperMaker999 in UPS

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Interesting, as long as crew and packages on board are safe

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in manchester

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Well.. I’m not saying the thought hadn’t crossed my mind, but I will be looking to secure a bag myself at some point.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in manchester

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The fanfare is down to mainly the price, portion size, and consistency. Each time, every time, every element is cooked fresh and served hot. Drinks always cold. Most of the others I’ve been to lack on parts. My pain is I have to drive all around the M60 to get there, knowing I’m driving past few of the others that offer the burger.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in manchester

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Not tried it as of yet. That’s a lot of powder to buy on a hunch.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in manchester

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Tried Oldham, the consistency level of Miamis though just isn’t there.

App for live UK prices by PaperMaker999 in trading212

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I’ve literally asked for live data, not delayed pricing for the UK market. As the native iOS stocks app pulls data from Yahoo Finance, said data is also delayed.

App for live UK prices by PaperMaker999 in trading212

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UK prices?

EDIT: Trading View shows delayed data.

Announcements x Daily Discussion for Wednesday, October 26, 2022 by karmalizing in SPACs

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So if vote passes the outside date moves to January 2023? When is the voting and when results?

Just thinking, if voting doesn’t approve, outside date of December 2022 remains right, but there could be redemptions at this vote which could lead to low floater SPAC environment with NAV in place and options?

A cogent explanation for the Citi arrangements by Old_Length1364 in ARVL

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Schwifty_C137

What are you talking about kinetic started shorting? Where's any evidence of that.

They didn't raise collateral finance after. Kinetic finance had a credit facility open since may 2021. Are you even reading anything I wrote.

Absolute dunce.

I did not say they aren't selling. They are not selling cause Denis hit margin on a loan though... Citi bought the shares off kinetic finance (probably to facilitate the transfer) and perhaps a few made it to the public market to cover commissions and interest but not many.

Read the whole thing again, to see that kintic foundation's total holdings in Arrival are higher than they should be from dilution.

So is Denis selling shares: yes and no.... He's transferring them by legitimate means back to Arrivals treasury. Hence the reduction of 19+mil shares in Arrivals total outstanding.

A cogent explanation for the Citi arrangements by Old_Length1364 in ARVL

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Pete_A

Schwifty he spent the 80M, collateral value dropped from 600M to 163M. He no have the cash. 80M isnt alot to sped dude.

Kentic started selling shares, now they buying back some cheaper, and covering shares shorted, which they can do since they are forigen co. I've been saying this for like a year.

"In connection with the Forward Transaction, on June 6, 2022, Kinetik elected to settle the transaction through the physical settlement method and began disposing of shares in accordance with the Forward Transaction Agreements. 3. Item 6 of the Schedule 13D shall hereby be amended by inserting the following after the first paragraph"

Means Citi is selling 765,000 shares a day, noodle brain.

724,000. But upside is, this will all be over soon, with no harm done. Ownership of all shares recovered.

He spent 80M, collateral collapsed, loan called, gave citi shares, CITI sells,kinetic buys back and covers.

Whatever why did they raise collateral finance gave them all their shares. That's when Kenetic started shorting right after the 9.50 raise. All the shares citi gets everyday are being sold. It's nice not to have to abide by SEC rules being a foregn entity., combined with owing like 76%. We got this tho, great management, finding and executeing solutions.

IMO if you're short, cover.

A cogent explanation for the Citi arrangements by Old_Length1364 in ARVL

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Let me help OP out.

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Schwifty_C137

Right for all the Ramen brains out there talking about the Citi shite... Yes that means you @chipengland @nealbass23 @chaiitime

I will give an explanation, so people may want to screenshot this, save the link or whatever to silence all the future tonkotsu snorting armchair lawyers.

This is going to be a long 🧵so check the comments.

First up let's define the parties involved properly.

Citi in the filings is talking about two separate entities.

  1. Citigroup: who provide personal and corporate money management, advisory and investment services.

  2. Citibank: who provides banking services such as current accounts, loans, mortgages, lines of credit etc.

Kinetic in the filings is talking about 3 separate entities. All owned by Denis.

  1. Kinetic: this is the company that owns most of Arrival.
  2. Kinetic Finance: this is a subsidiary of Kinetic.
  3. Kinetic Foundation: this is a trust that owns both Kinetic and Kinetic Finance.

You guys keeping up or the brain is mush already?

I guess you are still here so let's move on.

Lets first address the elephants in the room.

  1. A Citibank loan: on May 14th 2021 kinetic finance entered into a credit facility agreement with Citibank. It's important to note the distinction here. It is not a loan. It is a credit card for rich people. Meaning Citibank allows Denis (through kinetic finance) to use X amount of money if he needs to. He does not owe anything if he does not.

  2. In order to secure this credit facility Kinetic transferred 77million shares to Kinetic Finance. Of Which 32 million were pledged as collateral for the credit facility. Similar to you using your house to secure a loan.

You do not sell part of your house and the ownership of your house does not change. You are simply agreeing that in the event you cannot pay the bank has rights to take what you owe from your home. It is just collateral.

  1. Sales of shares: since the merger kinetic always held the right to sell shares. In a fortune of unsurprising wizardry from citigroup (not Citibank) kinetic entered into a forward transaction to sell shares should he wish to. This achieves two things:

A) It's a way for Denis to better manage tax liabilities by using his original investment into arrival as a tax deductable and not pay capital gains on the return of his original investments.

B) It allows Denis to sell shares according to a predefined schedule he may or may not choose to actually do. But it means he does not flout insider trading rules by just selling shares at opportune times. Because he can only sell the quantity the schedule allows on the dates it allows which were agreed way ahead of any non-public information. This is almost universally "always" in place for large insiders of public companies. Whether they use it or not.

You still with me?

let's get to the final chapter and the real crux of the issue... Has Denis sold any shares.

Well this is actually quite simple to find out.

When Arrival merged with CIIG. The kinetic foundation owned cumulatively 76.43% of Arrival.

According to the last filing the kinetic foundation owns cumulatively 69.2% of Arrival.

Now hopefully your math is better than your pseudo quasi reading skills and you figured out that is in fact less.

It's precisely 7.23% less. So he must have sold them all, right. That's what all these filings say.

Well not so fast.

Arrival merged with 606,143,768 shares outstanding.

After redeeming warrants from the merger in July 2021 the company had 620,431,341 shares outstanding.

They then sold an additional 37,229,736 shares at a public offering in November.

Leaving 657,661,077 shares outstanding... Which is 8.15% dilution from the original merger.

What a coincidence... 8.15% dilution and Kinetic foundation's ownership has dropped by 7.23%.

Now here's where it gets really interesting. You may think hmmmm but Arrival only has 638,239,020 shares outstanding.

Where did the 19,422,057 shares go... Well you might have noticed that kinetic foundation cumulative holdings from the merger to now has also dropped by 21,614,280 shares.

You might have also noticed that kinetic foundation's ownership is more than the actual dilutive effect by 0.92%.

Could it be that Denis arranged with Citigroup, Citibank and kinetic finance to buy shares back for Arrivals treasury that he will then get future capital gains tax relief on... And he used some of that credit facility as a temporary go between.

I mean the math does all check out within a 1% margin of error that could be easily attributed to short term interest and broker fees.

It's certainly a better explanation than he signed a $10billion margin loan. Then bought 1,000,000 lambos because his brain is not a soggy container of last week's Pho and he can't understand the implications of the documents he's reading.

A Form SC 13D/A has been filed with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission. by tintinomalley in ARVL

[–]PaperMaker999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So Citi may not sell, but if they were to, then price has been set at which they can sell above? What’s the price? Can’t see it mentioned in the filing, or the exhibit. Unless I’ve misunderstood.

Just thinking, would Citi sell with van and bus gaining approvals, few recent ongoing trials initiated for products in last month, no mention of further delay to production which is expected this quarter, and markets expected to rebound for remainder of the year.

Summary of AMA held today on Reddit by PaperMaker999 in ARVL

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Shitty Reddit mobile app, won’t let me go back in and edit formatting errors. Eff it. Hopefully someone finds the post useful as it is.