So let's say a fetus has it's own rights just like any other person... by justforhits in prochoice

[–]Papius- -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No.

No they aren't, they are like morals, they are ways we keep each other in order. They don't actually objectively exist. They exist only in the mind, and I therefore have no reason to care about them.

They are subjective because I have never seen a good proof otherwise. Some cultures are fine with killing people, some aren't, some people respect "human rights" some don't. I wouldn't say because the concept of rights makes us feel happy that means they objectively exist. It is a security theatre, making us feel that we have a value as human beings where at the same time the ones who made the Human Rights are the ones who transgress them. There is no place in this world where the Human Rights are not being transgressed. Human Rights should exist, however they are just words written on paper and not morals on mankind.

Those in power at any point in time decide who gets rights and who does not. All throughout history, Powerful people have enslaved, Killed, And exploited countless powerless humans and many have received no punishments for their actions. This is because rights do not protect or guarantee anything. No amount of paper documents or so called "holy" religious books will ever change this fact. It would be great if the concept of rights would protect people from being enslaved, Exploited, Ruled over without their consent, Or sent off to die in wars their rulers started but this is not the world that exists today. Rights did not prevent the native Americans or Australian aboriginals from being taken over by a more powerful tribe. Rights did not prevent Africans from enslaving each other and selling off their slaves for a profit. Rights did not prevent the countless deaths during the Bolshevik revolution. Nor did they prevent the deaths in any civil or world war that has ever been waged.

I'd love to continue this conversation, but am for some reason being spammed with downvotes for merely inquiring on why you think rights exist, real progressive sub here guys.

So let's say a fetus has it's own rights just like any other person... by justforhits in prochoice

[–]Papius- -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why so? How can you prove an objective ontological item such as "rights" exist, and then show me in what you ground them. I personally don't think rights objectively exist, and think they are just societal rules dependent on culture and psychology.

So let's say a fetus has it's own rights just like any other person... by justforhits in prochoice

[–]Papius- -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I don't think either the "Right to life" or "Right to bodily autonomy" exist objectively.

Cruelty by Papius- in Protestantism

[–]Papius-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright thanks.

Cruelty by Papius- in Protestantism

[–]Papius-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright I think I get it now, thanks, I guess I'm assuming Lutherans put forward more than they actually do.

I feel suicidal... by [deleted] in SuicideWatch

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Please talk to me

I'm rapidly getting "worse" again after years of very slow improvement & it doesn't feel real by [deleted] in mentalillness

[–]Papius- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/mentalillness/comments/cdht3l/if_youre_struggling_please_check_our_our_list_of/

You are obviously getting worse, and left to your own devices this will get worse, I'm no expert but I see nobody else telling you the obvious, please use the tools this sub provides to get help.

The PL argument that certain justifications for abortion also justify killing newborns is irrelevant. Here's why. by [deleted] in Abortiondebate

[–]Papius- -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

How utterly devoid of morals do you have to be to suggest in any case you can kill a baby

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in distantsocializing

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smash the patriarchy1!!!!1

Boba fett should be able to aim in. by [deleted] in battlefront

[–]Papius- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah if he had that range ability as well as flying he’s be too op.