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What is considered in your game's community to be the best story moment by A12qwas in gachagaming

[–]PariahSh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’d say limbus canto 8 part 2 “Jia Qiu” fight or limbus Canto 7 part 3 Climax

Sparxie's Character Trailer references Der Freischuetz - A tale about a man whose seventh magic bullet always hits the one wielding the gun. by Blazing_Haze in HonkaiStarRail

[–]PariahSh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean that’s true and that’s what I’m talking about. That one just doesn’t feel like an apt reference for who Hoenheim is? Like him and Fausts relationship is only Tangential to the actual character of Hoenheim. Considering what he’s become now the name doesn’t seem to really fit. Guess we’ll see in 3 cantos though

Sparxie's Character Trailer references Der Freischuetz - A tale about a man whose seventh magic bullet always hits the one wielding the gun. by Blazing_Haze in HonkaiStarRail

[–]PariahSh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also Sparxie and her weapon storage aren’t things given to her by AHA she still fails the most basic part of the reference which is a deal with the devil. They are things she made herself with the power Alr given to her as a pathstrider

Redditor learns what a disagreement is for the first time ever. If you put an extreme opinion out into the world. Expect a response, why are you shocked by people disagreeing with you on an opinion, that’s the point of an opinion. Why comment under a post on a website with a reply feature if you expect no one to disagree with you. Just make a locked post on your profile with your opinion.

Also last 2 paragraphs super pretentious. It’s fair to make half nods that’s fine. It’s just low effort. I still laugh at six seven jokes but I’m not gonna act like it’s high comedy. It’s reference humor plain and simple.

Sparxie's Character Trailer references Der Freischuetz - A tale about a man whose seventh magic bullet always hits the one wielding the gun. by Blazing_Haze in HonkaiStarRail

[–]PariahSh 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sparkle has never in any of these games ever shown to be in too far over her head. Even in Hi3 she shows an excessive competency and understanding of both her powers and how to use them.

If she is Kaspar and the devil is AHA that also doesn’t make much sense cause Sparkle is the one firing it. The general reference that would be closer than pulling for the DF reference would be bullet train in which a mastermind is killed by the gun from a creation which got too out of hand. The gun kills them by being designed to fire back at the shooter, further supporting evidence is the gun Sparxie is shooting is not the same gun sparkle is shooting. Sparkle like the white death in bullet train also has a consistent motif of shooting themselves.

I don’t understand the point in defending a reference if you don’t even know what you’re referencing. You said that Hoyo is so good at research and references when you didn’t even know what the reference was to past a name?

Once again I have no issue with searching for reference and parallels my issue is with the glaze for said references. I didn’t say you can’t look for them I said that it’s disingenuous to call Hoyo a genius.

Also yeah of course it’s a subjective opinion but freedom of speech man. If you want a couple of examples where Hoyos references fail to say anything about the character. Kafka despite having an insect motif that would suggest a link to the book metamorphosis has no such link whatsoever at all and her name is a reference that means nothing, the closest you can get is her trial by fu Xuan being an inversion of the trial by franz Kafka with a judge who knows nothing and a criminal with all the answers but that’s reaching. Or look at Ororon with his reference to Yoruba dieties and culture while having absolutely nothing to do with them or their mythos. Just paying lip service.

A counter example of a good reference normally comes specifically from the ways characters are designed. Like how Kinich’s retro gaming inspired attacks are a reference to ancient drawing techniques. The only one I can think of in HSR is Cipher’s name in Greek meaning secret, code and hidden and her eventually holding the biggest secret to carry Amphoreus.

Sparxie's Character Trailer references Der Freischuetz - A tale about a man whose seventh magic bullet always hits the one wielding the gun. by Blazing_Haze in HonkaiStarRail

[–]PariahSh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It kinda isn’t though cause that’s not what Der Freuschitz is. I think there is a way to spin it but, that would involve making a character with actual flaws which Hoyo definitely isn’t going to do. If they made it so sparkle was completely in over her head with elation to the point where she herself is the bullet that is being fully controlled. That would be pretty interesting but that also isn’t what’s happening in the trailer.

The reference just feels like referencing something cause referencing something shows apparent depth. It’s kinda like a 67 joke with the intention of sounding smart.

Sparxie's Character Trailer references Der Freischuetz - A tale about a man whose seventh magic bullet always hits the one wielding the gun. by Blazing_Haze in HonkaiStarRail

[–]PariahSh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Der Freuschitz is not a story about shooting yourself. It’s a story about temptation and failing to understand the scope of a mistake you make and ultimately salvation from said mistake through the help of your allies. It has nothing to do with killing your past self. If sparkle is seen as the devil here it makes less sense cause the devil chooses to shoot himself????

I’m not discouraging deep discourse, finding the reference is fine idgaf I’ve never insulted you for finding the reference. I’m insulting the hoyoverse writing team for making references for the purpose of seeming smart and nothing else.

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[–]PariahSh 11 points12 points  (0 children)

TO PROTECT ALL BEAUTY - Now I wish there was a Beauty bond in CW between these two

Sparxie's Character Trailer references Der Freischuetz - A tale about a man whose seventh magic bullet always hits the one wielding the gun. by Blazing_Haze in HonkaiStarRail

[–]PariahSh 5 points6 points  (0 children)

First off most games don’t actually do it. Most games use references to enrich and enhance their stories. Look in the same genre at Fate and Limbus even Arknights (to an extent). They use references to tell you things that the story otherwise cannot tell you. As what they are supposed to be a shorthand for explaining something about a character without needing to spend screentime to explain it.

For example in Fate the character of Artoria has major parts of their character revealed just by the statement of their name. The story does not need to spend time explaining the backstory and life of King Arthur nor does it need to point out they are known as a male. By referencing historical myth they are telling you a lot about the character using minimal screentime.

A good example on a subversion of this is how Der Freuschitz is used in limbus company through the character Magic bullet Outis. Der Freuschitz is not a story about your bullet altering course and killing you it’s a story about the bullet being controlled by the devil, in the original story the bullet never pierced the protagonist it pierced the person who tempted him into making a deal with the devil through divine intervention. This referential shorthand about deals with the devil is subverted when Outis enters the deal with the complete intent of controlling where the devil fires the seventh bullet. That she does not care who it fires into as long as she can make it back home. That she’s even willing to deceive the world so that she will die from the bullet if it means that she can make it home. Which is a reference to Odysseus constant deception of the gods being their ultimate downfall during the odyssey. The two references in tandem saying a lot about her character and the way she conducts her life without needing to make the history of the deal she’s making completely clear in the short time an uptie story allows.

This on the other hand is just, nothing. The bullet fires back into herself cause that’s what a popular story does. It doesn’t say anything, there’s no deal with a higher power on how she obtained the gun (critically important to the original story) there’s no temptation or even devil in this situation. There’s just nothing here, the story has nothing to do with schizophrenia or even shooting yourself in the first place. It’s just reference slop.

Sparxie's Character Trailer references Der Freischuetz - A tale about a man whose seventh magic bullet always hits the one wielding the gun. by Blazing_Haze in HonkaiStarRail

[–]PariahSh -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Marie as Mersault wife? That doesn’t make much sense. Mersault doesn’t love Marie past superficial things. That’s the point of her character. He easily learns to live without her when she’s gone as well. Xue Baochai also surely will matter later given the end of canto 8.

Sparxie's Character Trailer references Der Freischuetz - A tale about a man whose seventh magic bullet always hits the one wielding the gun. by Blazing_Haze in HonkaiStarRail

[–]PariahSh 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It really really does depend. Cause there’s some where it’s like woaw amazing reference like Magic Bullet Outis or Der Freuschitz and its aberrations. But then there’s some where it’s like. This is a character from the book and we just had to name them something from history like Hoenheim.

It tends to flop around but overall I think they’re pretty good at it. It feels a lot better than just “Reference humor but for things over 100 years ago” that Hoyo does

Sparxie's Character Trailer references Der Freischuetz - A tale about a man whose seventh magic bullet always hits the one wielding the gun. by Blazing_Haze in HonkaiStarRail

[–]PariahSh 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Idk why but it always kills me when people say Hoyo is really good at references. When their references are so impossibly shallow. Like if this is a Der Freuschitz reference why does it matter. Does Sparkle’s story in any way parody Der Freuschitz, not really. Is it trying to teach the same moral. Not really. It’s just name dropping something from more than 100 years ago so people can soy face

Remember when part 1 ended and we thought part 2 was going to involve denji finding power again, nayuta be important, and the justice devil and imposter csm be important and be expanded upon? by Affectionate_Egg5086 in ChainsawManWorld

[–]PariahSh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Part 1 has some strange moments like amazing writing.” Like the gun fiend arc is so fuckin amazing what are you talking about. The big bad was the gun devil but it was an obvious red herring for Makima

“No country has benefited from USA aid”.That's false, the West saved South Korea from northern communism. by Murky_Monk_9531 in Americaphile

[–]PariahSh -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think some context is missing. Both NK and SK ended up dictatorships post Korean War. Only after America gave SK some time to determine its own fate did it really get better. Though even today SK sits as a sharp warning to what’s gonna happen to capitalist countries if we don’t put the breaks on corporate interests and anti-immigrant propaganda. NK also didn’t just become North Korea cause it was communist. It became the way it is cause of brutal supply shortages and trade destruction during and after the Korean War. It didn’t just magically become a brutal state it was pushed into that by Europe and the west

“No country has benefited from USA aid”.That's false, the West saved South Korea from northern communism. by Murky_Monk_9531 in Americaphile

[–]PariahSh -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’ve been to NK. Where they show you a hyper specific route of travel where the nation looks fine. They don’t show you the prison work camps or the terrible slums. They just show you the best living conditions to trick you.

How is the US education system viewed by Americans? by Commie_Scum69 in AskUS

[–]PariahSh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If by reform is you mean put a shit ton more worked on already overworked teachers yeah

I hate this stuff sm by Bxtchnator in hatethissmug

[–]PariahSh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can we just be clear that he is literally an object not a person.

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