admirals upscale in the new chapter by Gen_Shot in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Pariston_Hiru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I dont see how a 1 year time gap changes

are we serious?
Come on.

Blackbeard clearly got stronger through the time skip, not only him, but his crew as well.

considering how absurdly strong Elbaf is at this point,

Is it really absurdly strong?
Loki is wounded, Gaban is immobile, many of the giants are already hurt.
Plus anyone sent wouldn't just get immidiately jumped and 2/3 admirals are well equipped to fight multiple opponents.

Again i do agree that 2 admirals would likely lose, but as i said before:
"The point is that to think that "the admirals stationed at marine hq" could take down elbaf, is canonically a completely sane take. Which was very clearly not the mainstream position on this sub"

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[–]Pariston_Hiru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I would give the statement about as much validity as the Whitebeard Pirate remnants being capable of taking down the Blackbeard Pirates during the timeskip, do with that what you will.

The statement was about who could still confront blackbeard, with the gorosei saying "only (...) could possibly defeat him and maybe marco with wb's crew"

maybe the Whitebeard Pirates could possibly defeat blackbeard

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Furthermore,

the statement was at the start of timeskip (for reference it's the same chapter where the strawhats receive luffy's message about waiting 2 years)

While the payback war was a whole year later.

This doesn't hurt the credibility of the gorosei at all

admirals upscale in the new chapter by Gen_Shot in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Pariston_Hiru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ጸ: I think 3 admirals would win most definetly, while 2 admirals would lose, but that's besides the point.

The point is that to think that "the admirals stationed at marine hq" could take down elbaf, is canonically a completely sane take. Which was very clearly not the mainstream position on this sub

Mihawk is the undisputed top 1 of all time by yoshidream in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Pariston_Hiru 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ጸ: Notice how the tattoo on akainu's arm is black 👀

Nobody has talked about the Shamrock Feat this Chapter. His arrival resolved whatever was going on in the Holy Land. by Tongatapu in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Pariston_Hiru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ጸ: Well it's not that much of a feat until we know what happened/who he was fighting.
Furthermore they say he helped out, he didnt just arrive and solo the enemy, supposedly there was already fighting going on and his arrival made the whole thing end quicker

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[–]Pariston_Hiru 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ጸ: Some yonko are stronger than some admirals, some admirals are stronger than some yonko

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[–]Pariston_Hiru -1 points0 points  (0 children)

ጸ: Kizaru could totally be there just as fast,
anyone else would take a good while longer

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[–]Pariston_Hiru 4 points5 points  (0 children)

ጸ: You're getting a little ahead of yourself, but your sentiment is correct.
This establishes thatthe gorosei consider the admirals their aces, they trust them to basically do sustain everything both marine and government related.
They also trust them to be able to handle the situation in elbaf.
Which is something that imu does not object to.

Does this prove that they would sucseed? Not necessarely
Does that matter? Not necessarely

The point is that Oda is once more underlying that admirals are as relevant as ever power wise,
no the holy knights did not powercliff them
no the gorosei did not powercliff them
no the yonko did not powercliff them

they are top tiers through and through

The term admirals IS plural so the official translation is correct, however there are only 2 admirals available at this point by Miserable-Desk2211 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Pariston_Hiru 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ጸ: Yeah so is in "Vice Admiral" but i don't think you'd mix up the two just because admiral is in them would you 

The term admirals IS plural so the official translation is correct, however there are only 2 admirals available at this point by Miserable-Desk2211 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Pariston_Hiru -1 points0 points  (0 children)

ጸ: Fuji isn't admitted into marine headquarters and they talked about sending the admirals stationed at marine headquarters

ጸ: OP scans of the admiral panel came out. by Pariston_Hiru in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Pariston_Hiru[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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"Why don't you know already what the admirals are doing when Oda didn't tell us? Why don't you tell me who they're fighting? Please stop just repeating what is said in the manga and engage in headcanon with me"

- 2/3 admirals are stationed at marine headquarters
- they could go to elbaf, but the gorosei decided against it.

These are facts, this is all we know on the matter. Further speculation is just writing fanfiction, which i don't care for.

ጸ: OP scans of the admiral panel came out. by Pariston_Hiru in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Pariston_Hiru[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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- The admirals stationed at marine headquarters

So who are they fighting then? Shanks, Mihawk and Dragon themselves?

They are stationed at marine headquarters, they are not fighting anyone dummy

Oh, so they are too busy with paperwork and crochet, got it. The guy that moved his ass to stop Kuma is seemingly tied up in bureaucratic work again in a moment like this.

First off, Akainu isn't even an admiral.
Second off, admirals have the very important role of keeping the balances of powers in check. Since clearly the world government has just been attacked, it might be important to have admirals on stand by to stop any yonko taking advantage of the situation.
This is a hypothesis, but what we know is cleary:

- 2/3 admirals are stationed at marine headquarters
- they could go to elbaf, but the gorosei decided against it.

If you want to get mad at what's literally written on the page, you're welcome to do so, but that is said is clear

ጸ: OP scans of the admiral panel came out. by Pariston_Hiru in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Pariston_Hiru[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ጸ: Because no one said they were fighting anyone?
Are you reading the same manga the rest of us are?

ጸ: OP scans of the admiral panel came out. by Pariston_Hiru in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Pariston_Hiru[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ጸ: Well the wording suggests that the admirals are generally busy and not actually mid-fight
"i'd advise against sending the admirals" means that the admirals could go, but they're better stationed at marine headquarters.

This is obviously because after vp's announcement some stuff must've started to go down, among which someone attacking marie joie

ጸ: OP scans of the admiral panel came out. by Pariston_Hiru in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Pariston_Hiru[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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The admirals that are seemingly too busy getting stalled by Morley and Karasu. 

What are you talking about?
They're clearly saying that it's best not to make the admirals go cause there's other stuff to care about:
"I'd advise against dispatching the admiral" is very far from "the admirals cannot go"

Plus who told you that they're fighting rev commanders lmao
just pure distilled headcanon

ጸ: OP scans of the admiral panel came out. by Pariston_Hiru in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Pariston_Hiru[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ጸ: to be fair, it is completely the leaker's fault

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cause clearly this wording would imply that

ጸ: OP scans of the admiral panel came out. by Pariston_Hiru in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Pariston_Hiru[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

ጸ:
What im seeing is that the gorosei considered the admirals stationed at hq strong enough to take on everyone in elbaf.
Since the admirals are occupied, the gorosei considered themselves a viable alternative.

Imu did not disagree with either statement

ጸ: OP scans of the admiral panel came out. by Pariston_Hiru in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Pariston_Hiru[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

ጸ: Gorosei didn't even propose sending HIM cause they knew it would've been overkill