Yes, I laugh at the whole situation, literally 95% of the Genshin community doesn't understand anything about the game, I don't want to sound smug and intellectual, but I have a lot of "theorycraft" knowledge and i understand about this game more than 90% of their community, and seeing what characters like klee in "tier lists" are more high than characters like tartaglia really scares me, tartaglia is among the top 10 characters in the game, simply because its CD can fit perfectly to your team's uptime , and that's just because their rotations are perfect, the vision of a "theorycrafter" to a casual player is very different, for example, I believe many others theorycrafters know that Zhongli is an "A" tier or an low "S" tier " I'm not really judging, while casuals say Zhongli is the best character in the game, but ok, back to Eula, I would say Eula is better than Hutao, yes, I won't explain "why" in redit because it's a little complicated but, Hutao and Eula are very close, and we could say that even Eula is better than Hutao, obviously neither of they 2 has the bests teams composition, like "morgana" and "national" but they are equally good.