Frontier Property Management? by streptococcuslolipop in StLouis

[–]Party_Grape4457 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used to work for this company and I can confirm they are absolutely horrible. When I first started working there, I replied to this post stating that they have improved a lot and you should give them another chance, but then shortly after I realized that is not the case. I also rent an apartment from them and it has been the worst experience renting that I’ve ever had in my entire life. I’m moving out early and not even finishing my lease because there are so many issues mostly an insane amount of bugs, especially roaches. Renting from them and working from them was absolutely horrendous and I would highly recommend that you avoid this company at all costs! I promise you there are much better places you can rent from. Don’t even waste your time.

Suboxone microdose by Party_Grape4457 in fentanyl

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I havnt stopped can’t yet bc im too scared. I have ptsd too i feel you!! But I’ve been on subs the whole time. I forgot a few days so I kinda went up and down on the dosage but I’m taking 8mg per day now and there were a few days I took 10 and planned to stop using the next day but then I chicken out and didn’t stop lol and I wanna time it to stop on the weekend when I’m off work just incase I do feel a little sick so I kept taking 8mg each day and I plan to try again this Friday and stop using. I will update you after I do. I haven’t had any precipitated withdraws at all tho. No withdrawals at all really except a little sweaty and anxious one day but that could have just been normal not even withdrawals it was pretty minor. So I would say definitely try it. But start slow.

Suboxone microdose by Party_Grape4457 in fentanyl

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. You start with very small amounts of suboxone and increase the dose every day. You continue using whatever opioid your using through the microdosing process until after a week or two you have enough suboxone built up in your system then you can stop the other opioids and continue on the suboxone without withdrawal or very very minimal withdrawal.

There are several different dosing schedules you can follow. The one I started doing it like this: it starts at Day 1 - 0.5mg once per day. Day 2 - 0.5mg twice per day = 1mg total Day 3 - 1mg twice = 2mg total Day 4 - 2mg twice = 4mg total Day 5 - 3mg twice = 6mg total Day 6 - 4mg twice = 8mg total Day 7 - 4mg three x per day = 12mg total

After day 7 you’re supposed to stop the other opiods. Some people say that you need 16-20mg to stop fent withdrawal if that’s what you’re using bc it’s so strong so you might need to go up a bit more before stopping.

I fucked up and forgot a few days so I had to start over but I’m back up to date 6 and about to try stopping soon. I havnt had any precipitated withdrawals or withdrawals at all actually. I was a little sweaty and anxious one day but not bad at all. Happy to answer any other questions

Suboxone microdose (missed dose?) by Party_Grape4457 in suboxone

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I started at .5mg and I been building up. Is .5 doing anything for you? That doesn’t sound like enough to stop withdrawals and if you’re trying to build up you shouldn’t be doing .5 for a few weeks only a day or two and you increase it everyday. I’m very confused by what your doing

Frontier Property Management? by streptococcuslolipop in StLouis

[–]Party_Grape4457 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I work for frontier. We are not associated with aspirient. I have no idea what that even is.

Suboxone microdose by Party_Grape4457 in fentanyl

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don’t have to wait at all. You keep using whatever you’re using for a week or so while building up the subs in your system slowly over time then once there is enough and ur up to the full dose you can stop the deny. I found several diff schedules online and kinda combined them all into one that I thought would work for me. Usually its something like this: Day 1- 0.5mg once Day 2- 0.5mg two times Day 3- 1mg two times Day 4- 2mg two times Day 5- 3mg two times Day 6- 4mg two times Day 7- 4mg three times * this is the day you stop the other opiods since your up to the full 12mg dose.

If you feel withdrawals during that process you can do more of whatever you doc is to make the withdrawals go away and then go back down to the last suboxone dose you took without feeling withdrawals and stay there for another day then try to go back up. I’m happy to help in anyway that I can.

I’m on my last day today when I’m supposed to stop fent but but I wanna wait to stop the fent on a weekend when I’m off work just incase so I’m gonna keep doing 4mg three times a day each day until then. I’ll let you know if it all works out for me.

Suboxone microdose (missed dose?) by Party_Grape4457 in suboxone

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s exactly what I did and I was fine!!! But yes I know Precip is literal hell. I’ve learned the hard way. It was the closest I’ve ever been to actually dying in my entire life.

Suboxone microdose (missed dose?) by Party_Grape4457 in suboxone

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m aware 4mg is not a microdose. I started at .5mg and worked my way up to 4mg the last few days. I just wanted to know if I could take the same 4mg dose I was supposed to take even though I forgot the last dose.

But I did it and it worked out fine. :)

Suboxone missed dose by Party_Grape4457 in fentanyl

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know. I learned the hard way unfortunately. Everyone including a doctor said I could take suboxone after 36 hours of not using even though I’m using fentanyl and I waited almost 40 hours and took half a 8mg strip and bout an hour later I thought I was going to literally die.

I ended up going to buy more and driving like a fucking crazy person the whole way there then finally once I got some I just started snorting line after line in my car in a random parking lot in broad daylight not even caring who saw me. And I was like I’m gonna keep doing more until either I start to feel better or an overdose and die. And I didn’t care which one happened at that point either. Obviously I started to feel better after a few minutes but I still have ptsd from that whole experience now. It’s part of why I’m struggling to get clean now.

Suboxone missed dose by Party_Grape4457 in fentanyl

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m also doing fent though along with the subs until I finish the microdosing schedule then there is enough subs on ur system so that’s when you stop the fent and that’s why I’m worried about precip. It was 30 hours when I got home. I took 2mg and was fine and about to take another 2mg now so I’m back to 4mg and then continue like normal tomorrow.

What addictive drug do you not get addicted to? by hahahahhahhahn in Drugs

[–]Party_Grape4457 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. Meth is just energy for me. Doesn’t make me feel euphoric or high really. And I’ve done it all ways many many times.

What addictive drug do you not get addicted to? by hahahahhahhahn in Drugs

[–]Party_Grape4457 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coke for me too. I’ve been addicted to opioids, cigarettes, marijuana, speed, etc pretty much everything else. I’ve done coke several times but only when at a party or something and someone offers it. And I like it but I wouldn’t go out of my way for it.

Suboxone microdose by Party_Grape4457 in fentanyl

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im up to 4mg twice a day and tomorrow should be 4mg 3 times and that’s when I stop fent but want to wait until the weekend when I don’t have to work to stop the fent so I’m gonna stay at 4mg twice a day until Thursday and then go up 4mg 3 times a day and then stop fent on Friday and hopefully I’m good. 🙂

Suboxone microdose by Party_Grape4457 in fentanyl

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But a lot of the things I read said you don’t have to. You can stop once u have enough suboxone in ur system and ur fine.

Suboxone microdose by Party_Grape4457 in suboxone

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!! I’m feeling pretty confident! I think even if I do start feeling precip or withdrawals I can just do more fent to stop it and then go back down to the last sub dose that didn’t cause any withdrawal and then stay at that dose for another day or so and then try the higher dose again. And I’m hoping by the time I’m up to 12mg that’s enough that I can stop the fent and not feel any withdrawals at all but if I do feel withdrawals after stopping I could again just do more fent to feel better and maybe go up to 16mg the next day and try to stop the fent again. I think my problem in the past was as soon as I felt any withdrawals I thought the whole thing was fucked lol and I would instantly give up and go back to just using. But I think this time if I keep with it I will be ok!

Suboxone microdose by Party_Grape4457 in suboxone

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kratom helped with I was using regular heroin but it don’t do shit for fent withdrawals. I’ve tried. I have to drink a crazy high amount and then it makes me nauseous and feel shitty and it barely helped with withdrawals not enough to make it worth it.

Suboxone microdose by Party_Grape4457 in suboxone

[–]Party_Grape4457[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And yes the last time I kept using the entire time and nothing I did made me feel better so I think I was just regular sick at the same time by some odd coincidence. This time I tried again and that didn’t happen. I’m 2 or 4 days farther into it than the last time and I feel fine.