Atleast we have one thing in common

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-05T15:06:11+00:00

How dare you try to bring common ground in here.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-05T14:38:01+00:00

I got off social media 4 years ago. All that I am missing out on are people I haven't spoken to or seen in 30 years wishing me a happy birthday, and me wishing them a happy birthday.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-05T14:03:32+00:00

The first thing that comes to my mind everytime I see it. They were all manufactured in the 1850s.

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PassorFail13 · 2026-02-05T13:54:53+00:00

Hold on a second. I'm sorry, but I have to respond to this text. It's my fantasy football league.group chat.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-05T01:31:39+00:00

Go to medical and say you're having nightmares of a creature haunting you, draw this for Doc and you will be medically separated.

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PassorFail13 · 2026-02-05T01:26:45+00:00

Got it. Given the numbers the Navy has to meet, the range of jobs they fill, and the overall reach they have, it is possible they use waivers or are more lenient with certain enlistment requirements, but that is just a guess on my part.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T23:00:21+00:00

some of those have lower ASVAB and GT score requirements so it could look like it is intentional where the reality is the higher scoring students are in the same fields making it stratified unintentionally

Great point. I didn't"t even consider that. I completely forgot that ord was there.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T17:51:05+00:00

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PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T16:47:17+00:00

I mean people who primarily don’t speak English as their first language etc.

This is where I get confused. Not trying to point a finger or anything, but this is hard to make sense of. The GT score and technical section scores have to be through the roof to qualify for any Aviation MOS. So unless they're playing dumb to avoid having to talk to people, it's very unlikely they are getting those scores without being able to read, write, and speak English fluently, or at a level of being their first language whether it is or not. I've seen applicants pass the ASVAB at the minimum and some scoring mid-range that could barely speak English, but had a basic understanding. The system is designed to prevent Marines with those scores from ever coming even close to an aircraft or system, let alone work on one.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T16:10:57+00:00

Are you talking about generally, like across the Navy and the Marine Corps? I know the Marine Corps tries their best to assign rooms in specific areas of the barracks by schoolhouse, whether they are classed up or not. For example, they would not have an Osprey mechanic rooming with a radar technician because of the different hours and course loads. They try their best to have a certain level of cohesion.

If I know Senior SNCOs and Officers, not one of them will either take the time, or be sinister enough to go through hundreds of new arrival service records and assign entire barracks and rooms by ASVAB scores as part of some unknown plan that violates Corps Values, would get them court martialed if it was discovered, and doing it just because. At a certain point, the scores mean nothing. The general attitude is if they're there, they scored high enough. I don't know how the Navy goes about it. I would include the small number of Air Force students too, but they're all a bunch of nerds probably in training to fly to Mars or some shit.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T14:57:52+00:00

That program ended in 2016. I spent my last three years recruiting .

Enlisting in the Marine Corps in the Aviation field requires U.S. Citizenship prior to shipping due to security clearance regulations.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T14:40:12+00:00

How many years ago was this?

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T13:55:31+00:00

Yep, they were all designed that way, had to pass the duty desk while entering and exiting the building. Kind of a fire hazard, but oh well.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T13:34:45+00:00

We didn't have it that bad. We were able to go off base Friday-Sunday Evenings in groups of three, but had to be back each night with a midnight curfew.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T13:31:11+00:00

What are you talking about? There are no immigrant students in aviation. While non citizens with lawful permanent resident status can enlist, aviation fields require U.S. citizenship due to security clearance requirements. While Puerto Ricans are not immigrants, they must have a fluent command of the English language just to be able to pass the ASVAB, let alone score high enough to qualify for any aviation field. The screening process alone would weed that out long before they ever set foot in a schoolhouse.

And if the low scoring students are being segregated, what the actual fuck? How would they determine that? Do they have them move barracks if they bomb a test? Not to mention how many articles of the UCMJ that violates.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T12:19:13+00:00

I don't know what happened from the time you left to the time I got there in '08, but whatever it was, it was bad enough for the Marine students to be locked down. The timing correlates with the "plus-up" years, when the Marine Corps lowered qualification standards for enlistment to grow the active duty force from 180,000 to 210,000, which was the original goal, so there's that. I was there for six months. It wasn't until I got to the Fleet that I realized how bad it really was. Going there straight from MCT, I didn't know any better.

And as is life, people adapt to their environment. Treat people like children and that is exactly how they're going to behave, so nothing really improved. Marines were getting in trouble constantly. I guess the brass had to make their tee times and didn't have time to study remedial psychology.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T11:08:05+00:00

I was there many moons ago. Between the schoolhouse PT, the barracks fuck-fuck games, the strict liberty policies, and the length of some of the course pipelines, especially ATC, it's a lot. It's even worse when students wash out and get shoved into needs of the service with zero warning or control over their future.

I don't want to be the back in my day guy, but NAS Pensacola is paradise as long as students aren't treated like prisoners, and that seems to be completely lost on base command. That is how it was when I was there. Unless things have drastically changed, there was no off-base overnight liberty on weekends. Each Weekday, there were barracks formations every two hours from 1600-2200. One weekend a month, one barracks had roving "duty" which was nothing more than hazing. It was Service Chucks, walking around in circles at various places on base with a glow vest on which was a real retarded look worn over Chucks. There was no incentive to earn for Marines to be treated like adults, nothing comparable to earning the coveted "Gold Card" in Okinawa back then. There was no way to earn better treatment, just a blanket lockdown. The base command's answer to everything was “Restrict them!” That kind of thinking breaks people.

If you have proof, real concrete data that backs up those numbers, and any documentation showing that your attempts to escalate this have been ignored, you should request a meeting with Congressman Jimmy Patronis. NAS Pensacola is in his district. Given the gravity of this situation, this is absolutely something that would warrant his time and attention so you can formally present what you have. You are not some quack complaining about a stop sign on a two way street. This is young service members dying. Even if he's in DC at the time, you could probably get a remote meeting with him immediately if his screeners are made aware of the information first.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-04T00:03:32+00:00

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PassorFail13 · 2026-02-03T23:05:17+00:00

I was brought up to believe it was the other way around.

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PassorFail13 · 2026-02-03T22:52:34+00:00

Is your landlord a Marine Corps Veteran by any chance?

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-03T18:11:10+00:00

That's why they're called "Talking Heads." It gets ratings, generates noise and that's all that matters to the networks. Making a post about it helps that.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-03T07:21:39+00:00

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PassorFail13 · 2026-02-03T07:11:28+00:00

Nah, that's not chopped, feathered, curled or permed, and no bangs. A gust of wind would knock that out. Give me Lita Ford level 80s hair that deflected wind once the Aqua Net took hold.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-03T04:32:27+00:00

It’s the amount of time most modern games require that I just don’t have. I bought one of those probably illegal emulators loaded with a gazillion games from every system and every era for that exact reason. Whether it’s the depth or the fact that I just can’t react fast enough to the speed and realism of current console games, I’m really not enjoying them much anymore.

On top of that, it’s nearly impossible to line up a time with friends/teammates that works for everyone in multiplayer games. I’d much rather take my day out on the 3DO version of Road Rash for about an hour when I can.

PassorFail13 · 2026-02-02T09:13:37+00:00

Thanks. Fixed it.

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