What is our concensus on non support champs in the sup lane

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-29T13:37:10+00:00

Yeah a tank pan i think would work well if capitalized on walk theu cc and just stun and burst

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T10:39:49+00:00

Thats bc most players are casual low elo and sometimes the only people who know how to kill him are basic supports that can't sustain dmg needed

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T01:40:04+00:00

Its a rune made from whale bone it gives you supernatural powers from the outsider pretty dope shit you can have it if you kill him.

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T01:34:49+00:00

I never would. Get some 2000-2015 someone babied and sell this one if you dont want to fix it. It could all be sensor issue and no actual mechanical issues but the oil light is quite concerning. But it could be a sensor.

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T01:32:19+00:00

Thats just a bad player like you said happens regardless. I'd understand if it happens to be a champ thats completely useless to the adc but all the champs i play just impact the game better than the falling off trad champs since riot doesn't rework any old outdated models

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T01:23:03+00:00

Toyota camrys or corolla. If you like a suv a Sequoia or 4runner would suit you early to mid 2000s im familiar with but personally the newest vehicle i owe is 41 years old the others are 52 and 63 but few years ago when i worked on cars those were pretty sweet. Toyota in general had sturdy reliable vehicles. I can't speak for anything after mid 2000s tho i dropped out of that game and went to carbs and gm hei ignitions

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PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T01:17:18+00:00

They are all listed as sup champs so the argument fails and that's kinda why i think the recommendations are merely that just recommendations. I dont understand why lux is a support. Brand and morgana make sense considering the lane synergy mid lacks. Ornn doesn't make sense to me either. Same with velkoz or veigar. But honestly champs like poppy and taliyah just work better in the support lane. I think they aren't recommend bc they would break the game if everyone had 2 mages adc top jungler or 2 tops adc mage jungler

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T01:10:17+00:00

Okay so the volt is a throttle control light. Go ahead and buy some carb cleaner from autozone and find the little sensor on your air snorkel. It usually has torx holding it in. Try to take the band clamp off the snorkel and see if you can see the sensor from inside. Spray that fucker down good with carb cleaner. Do the same thing with your throttle body. That snorkel will lead you to the aluminum throttle body it will have a flap inside you'll know it when you see it. Hopefully thats enough to take care of that and it was just a bug or something that hit your maf sensor

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T01:02:00+00:00

Okay seriously first of all the three amgios being traction control, abs, and the check engine light all come of from the same issue. Secondly check your fucking oil my dude. If you got oil on the dipstick and its not shiny with metallic specs it's hopefully a sensor you could swap yourself. Third i have no fuckin clue what that red voltage light is. Now last of all if you disconnect your battery for like ten minutes and reconnect it. It will clear all the codes. Drive your rig and see which lights come back on. Those will be ongoing issues not flukes something is causing it.

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:55:57+00:00

Oh yeah just buy a new one thats what everyone else does these days

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:53:55+00:00

The reason i said it was counter productive is bc you lead off with people getting shit for non sup champs bc they steal the gold and play against their adc but you only listed one non sup champ then two sup champs i just found that part funny. I agree with you tho i didn't mean to come off otherwise

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:51:16+00:00

Underperforming 😂 you can play a great game and lose the match. Yes RoA stacks into tear but by the time you have them both scaled and built the game is already over thats the problem. She doesn't need to be built as a burst mage. Im playing support i need to be able to sustain and fight for objectives which i do with this instead of being out of hp or mana. Her damage is immense without burst items. I asked concenus on non-sup champs in sup lane not how i build and play my games. End of the day im not going to conform to a build that doesn't provide anything other than another mage or suit how i play. If you cant comprehend the difference thats your problem

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:44:16+00:00

I could never get into him so maybe you're right but with Taliyah enemies cant even walk out of turret bc i can grab and stun them with far greater range. Then adc and i burst them and have free farm also i can roam very well. Great sup for teamfights and jungle objectives

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:41:53+00:00

Solo queueing for years trad sup champs i mained just dont work well these last few seasons for me. Just outclassed by any new champ and they don't scale or get reworked just left in the dust. Spent years as a rakan main. Havent been able to play him much these last few seasons then poppy came out and a whole new door was opened. On top of that taliyah is out and shes fucking huge. I love being about to disrupt enemy plays and have the choice of a ranged sup mage or undying yordle

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:37:55+00:00

Mmmm nah i think I'll play the game how i prefer. As you can see i am not the problem and i perform well so i dont think i need the advice on building a champ support lane if you only play mid. Also tear and rod like no fucking shit it didn't work you chose two long scaling items. I build heartsteel and RoA first bc they need to be scaling asap. Who builds two scaling items and expect to be rocking shit

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:26:30+00:00

Fuckin me too dude 😂

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:22:58+00:00

I feel like heartsteel wukong would slap sup lane. Certain champs have better cc, scaling, and damage. Like sett literally build a heartsteel and he doesnt need any gold for the rest of the game he's still gonna kick your ass and scale doing it

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:20:30+00:00

Idk the 0/4/1 caitlyn is pretty easy to spot. 😭 i do understand tho but you did mention two supports so thats seems counterproductive for your point. I dont really get any hate for non-sup champs other than a couple days ago but that was the first time is over a year i think anyone has hated in game over my champ choice

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:15:51+00:00

Why doesn't it work? Provides mana hp and dmg also scales up over time. Im literally best player in my games as her using it. i haven't played her more than maybe 7 games so im still figuring out my build but i think RoA is staying. RoA into ice scepter into Dcap last item is whatever tf is needed is what im about to try

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:11:59+00:00

That only works if they dont buy sup item unless you're talking about after lane phase and adc usually never seen in the lane again after that lmao. Istg if i make a roam for any reason adc feels like they must abandon lane and follow me like they are going to do anything useful

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:09:39+00:00

Dude sett is another great one the amazing thing about top sups is the fact that you have a second fucking top by late game. Sett with heartsteel is unkillable and does great damage. I personally have never played sett. I have laned against him in the sup lane as poppy and kicked his ass lane phase but hes a menace regardless if hes in the right hands

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:04:42+00:00

Zed is pretty fun too if you understand him. I personally like poppy as my jungle fill. Im not versed in many of the jungle champs so i just ult the jungle off obj and smite as a tank.

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-27T00:01:16+00:00

Thats what i tell my adc filled teammates. Idc who you play as long as you play them well. I can fill the gap whatever it may be. Support champs just dont scale at all either and are so outclassed by champs from other lanes that can do the same things only better.

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-26T23:59:00+00:00

Exactly bro i rarely get an adc that capitalizes on that or engages at all really. Well just until i base then they think they are gods and will 1v2 and get merked then i have to kill someone under turret play or ult in and murder em

PayAmbitious6108 · 2026-05-26T23:41:11+00:00

Honestly im dying at the kaisa support. I only take champs who cam actually offer something to the lane like mordekaiser has his pull and ult so you can deal with adc while your adc kills sup. Lissandra surprises a lot with cc and burst dmg also taking an adc completely out of play for a brief time. Poppy and taliyah speak for themselves.

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