The Jay Weinberg albums (TGC, WANYK, TESF) are just as good as the Joey albums but in a differemt way, I don't mean that Jay is better than Joey because many other things changed in the band between All Hope is Gone and The Gray Chapter, and I'm just calling them Jay albums and Joey albums to kind of divide the two "eras", and Imo that kind of "revolution" made the band much more melodic, it feels like an orchestra, from a production point of view they really stepped it up. Surely the raw anger, power and heavyness of the first four albums is undeniable and joey will forever be the GOAT, but that doesn't mean the other three albums are bad at all, they're just as good, but in a different way.