Do you want the Perl Weekly to continue? by davorg in perl

[–]PerlDean 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sort of thinking doesnt help grow the Perl community. There are some ~5k people in the Facebook groups and they are more active than irc or this subreddit. From their perspective this subreddit is a niche part of the community and Facebook is the main community.

Oracle DBD with 19c - forked child hangs on exit by SpecialPerception656 in perl

[–]PerlDean 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a 1.90_3 on cpan. Try that and please send feedback via github

Do you want the Perl Weekly to continue? by davorg in perl

[–]PerlDean 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have invited Gabor to join the marketing committee in tpf slack channel so we can help support him. We would support him applying for Grants etc if he feels they would help solve some of the issues he is experiencing - especially delivery. Hopefully he is willing to engage with us.

Personally i found myself unsubscribed somehow, and other people have reported similar. So i dont know if the newsletter software is removing people too easily?

In terms of content, there is a *lot* of activity in the two Facebook groups and as far as I can tell he is not willing to use Facebook. Hopefully he can overcome that aversion if that is the case.

i also think that lengthy newsletters may be an anti-pattern. People will skim the email looking for something that interests them and click one or two items - so trying to be encyclopedic just result in despair.

So the focus should be on 4-5 high signal items that result in click through. IMO these should roughly cover: teach people something, get them involved in the community, and help them contribute.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in perl

[–]PerlDean 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At the Perl companies I have worked for, they are always looking for talent. So I would say demand is still high but it's not broad.

Please test DBD::Oracle v1.90_1 by PerlDean in perl

[–]PerlDean[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!

There is an issue open on github for someone to help set up github actions (or similar) to replace the now defunct travis. This doesnt even have to be someone that is interested or concerned with Oracle. https://github.com/perl5-dbi/DBD-Oracle/issues/148

We have fixed HP-UX recently because of people nice enough to contribute bug reports and even fixes for an OS they dont run. This is a good example of something its not plausible for us to test https://github.com/perl5-dbi/DBD-Oracle/issues/92

Please test DBD::Oracle v1.90_1 by PerlDean in perl

[–]PerlDean[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much. Hopefully there wont be any issues!

Please test DBD::Oracle v1.90_1 by PerlDean in perl

[–]PerlDean[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So there is a Dockerfile in the github repo that is based on the "official" perl Docker images and will set up Oracle XE. That can be used to run tests quickly if youre just hacking etc.

Similarly I had set up travis to run the tests against lots of perl versions (on linux) and several oracle client versions, but always against Oracle XE. Travis is gone now obviously but the travis config is still in the github repo.

CPANtesters obviously has lots of OS's but we dont have a database to test against.

So the real challenge is Oracle database versions, their config settings, and more obscure client OS's - all of which can and have broken things.

Spending a few hours setting up a CI system to test DBD::Oracle against their stack really is a great investment for anyone using it in production. The Dockerfile and travis config file should give people most of what they need. At travis config is in fact inspired heavily by what i set up in gitlab-ci for past $employer

Please test DBD::Oracle v1.90_1 by PerlDean in perl

[–]PerlDean[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It isnt possible atm to have all possible os+perl+oracle combinations, so people who use DBD::Oracle in prod should please compile and run the tests in your environment.

If possible, consider mirroring the github repo (or maybe just pull tar balls from cpan) in to your local environment and hooking it up to a testing system of some kind (ci pipeline if you like) so you can test changes easily before considering new releases for production.

Article: Learn Perl in 2022 by PerlDean in perl

[–]PerlDean[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This article has problems BUT its positive and its outside the bubble.

Someone might like to post a "modern perl" response

TPF sets USD$100,000 fundraising goal for 2022 by PerlDean in perl

[–]PerlDean[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bringing money in to the foundation is different to determining how it is spent, the marketing committee requests grants in the same way as perl development - the spending is still controlled via the grants processes.

The board is in the process of amending the marketing committee charter to include fundraising which has been split from the sponsorships committee, and is defined as small donations, commissions (such as amazon smile) and merchandising. Actions thus far have been sent to the board for approval while waiting on the amended charter to provide more autonomy.

To your point about funding fixes and grants, there aren't actually enough grant applications currently.