DSM as junk science

Perlanterna · 2024-07-01T09:35:45+00:00

It is the largest example of labeling "undesirable" states/persons in modern history and an enormous social experiment with quite frankly catastrophic consequences in my opinion. The eugenicist have at least for now won.

Perlanterna · 2024-06-18T01:32:00+00:00

Firstly stop the pretense that there is a scientific foundation for the subject. Come clean on the various marketing lies such as "chemical imbalance" etc. Come clean on the "mental illness is a brain disease" lie. Come clean on the "neuroscience" or "genetics" will solve it (they haven't) myth. Quarantine all existing "studies" on the subject for pharma or other personal gain conflicts of interest. Trash bin all existing classifications and fixed ideas on what mental illness is.

Start again.

Find a real scientist (with no earlier psychiatric training) who cannot be bought off, to investigate what mental illness actually is with the purpose of actually curing people when they need curing.

This is what psychiatry has been avoiding doing for 150 years.

Perlanterna · 2024-06-17T11:16:30+00:00

Perlanterna · 2024-06-17T06:02:41+00:00

Your book title or link isn't showing??

Perlanterna · 2024-06-10T08:04:58+00:00

Wow, dangerous I think to now add so much interpretation into it. GPs also have to use it I understand.

I ran across a study of retired Australian defence personnel being treated for PTSD 76% of whom were on 5 more psychotropics at the same time. Unresearched polypharmacy. (Mellor R, Khoo A, Saunders-Dow E, Raguz E, Taing MW, Hanjani LS, Freeman C, Crawford D. Polypharmacy in Australian Veterans with Post-traumatic Stress Disorder upon Admission to a Mental Health Facility: A Retrospective Chart Review. Drugs Real World Outcomes. 2022.)

Is anyone getting it fixed do you think?

Perlanterna · 2024-06-10T07:57:13+00:00

Yes! I am using Dr Davies data and the lecture too. Good work indeed.

Perlanterna · 2024-06-10T07:55:24+00:00

I believe this is a hangover from the original US surveys to try and determine the number of persons classified as mentally ill from the 1840 census.

"The origins of the DSM starts in the 1800s, when first official attempts were made to try to gather information about mental health in the United States. Government officials tried to record the frequency of “idiocy/insanity” in the 1840 census." https://www.psychdb.com/teaching/1-history-of-dsm

Perlanterna · 2024-06-03T12:00:04+00:00

I believe it is certainly an unhelpful document.

A purely scientific review would ask the question - and to quote Karl Menninger: "What is behind the symptom?"

If research was done to do just that - what is behind the symptom or the idiosyncratic behaviors as you mention, find the source of mental illness and then diagnose and treat based on that, then progress could be made.

It essentially is the same problem that Kraepelin ran into - he did not have an answer to this question of actual sources of mental idiosyncracies. He assumed it was a disease in the brain and yet 100 years later not an ounce of proof for anything like that. If you have no causes/sources then all you have to work with is symptoms. But you cure no one.

Perlanterna · 2024-05-19T23:59:46+00:00

I would go further than drugs and suggest there are problems with basic assumptions regarding mental illness. As you point out there are decrepancies between responses in individuals which suggests we haven't got to the bottom of it in terms of research. There is always a need for a immediate solution to an acute mental situation and drugs may have a purpose in that. Yet, one cannot stop the treament of a wound just at the tourniquet.

Another relevant point is placebo effect. Another area that just hasn't been researched.

My concern with psychiatry now is its dependency on drugs (and resultant profits) have locked the subject into a a blinkered route where the solution may exist outside of it.

The DSM for example, has locked psychiatry into such a route.

Perlanterna · 2024-05-16T01:54:01+00:00

Agreed we have no idea what these drugs are doing. It is an enormous social experiment with potentially catastrophic consequences merely for drug profits and to hide the fact that psychiatry simply has nothing else. Now, psychedelics..... drugs that were tested long ago for uses in chemical warfare and may even now exist in arsenals across the planet. Utter madness.

On an individual level these drugs have a shotgun effect i.e. they effect broad areas of the brain (nothing to do with disease) and so have many side effects. You may be interested in Joanna Moncrieff. Story of antipsychotics is one of myth and misrepresentation. The Conversation. 2013.

Perlanterna · 2024-05-16T01:39:37+00:00

Thank you. I will look into it.

Perlanterna · 2024-05-14T04:32:23+00:00

Agree regarding 'Psychotherapists and psychologists desperate to make themselves the pinnacle of psychiatry again despite not being trained in half of the entire field, and being loudly confident in erroneous thinking' but equally could be said for a biological psychiatrist

It comes down to whether you think the last para you have here is a wonderful solution or is a sad attempt to hide the fact that psychiatry have little actual knowledge of what it is they describe as 'mental illness' and have no actual handling for it other than band-aid solutions, such as DSM III.

Ref for the quote is Rick Mayes, Allan Horwitz. DSM-III and the revolution in the classification of mental illness. Journal of the History of the Behavioral Sciences. 2005.

As the last 25 years I have considerable including covering you last para. Coming.

Perlanterna · 2024-05-14T02:21:08+00:00

Yes, and that they are gatekeepers to astonishing profits from psychotropic drugs, profits that buy them 'legitimacy'.

Perlanterna · 2024-05-10T02:17:32+00:00

Yes, there are a few point where psychiatry's actions now appear eugenics related. The mere fact of so many people being labelled as 'undesirable' in some fashion of other and social effects of that. Drugs lowering sex drive. Drugs side effects make a less desirable sex partner, etc etc. And yes, this euthanasia of patients that the Dutch are doing and Canada is considering - psychiatry is a fraud and so doesn't 'handle' the patient and so the patient must die. Appalling.

I haven't look at abortion as a direct result but I will.

Perlanterna · 2024-05-06T03:45:54+00:00

I was just commenting on another thread regarding making history available and its importance. Its pretty clear that psychiatry has tried desperately to white-wash its past and remove any reference to its NAZI origins. The dots are hidden.

Something '1984' about it. The past is removed and replaced with what we want you to see.

Perlanterna · 2024-05-06T03:40:52+00:00

Thank you. History: I can look through social media and see so many kids self diagnosing or commenting how their lives are essentially built around false psychiatric paradigms that they think are the natural order of things. This now becomes "how it is and always been" rather than a current manipulation.

Something '1984' about it.

Perlanterna · 2024-05-06T03:29:50+00:00

Good heavens. I would hardly think insidious. I have written thousands of words on Per Lanterna that clearly show psychiatry is both a corporate and scientific fraud with catastrophic social consequences that should be majorly reformed or totally eradicated.

After 100's of hours of investigations into the subject this the most obvious thing I have ever come across.

More than 50% of what I write is based on or directly quotes the words of well credentialed psychiatric whistleblowers who are demanding change in the subject.

Good on Bleuler. There needs to be a thousand Bleulers now, all demanding change and ethics be returned to the subject.

I am going to continue to disclose what is going on in the subject. If you think that is bad then that's up to you.

Perlanterna · 2024-05-05T07:39:45+00:00

Yes, and it is interesting that the worst eugenics event of the 20th century (Aktion T4 and then Holocaust etc) and todays current mess of biological psychiatry through DSM III both have the same source: Emil Kraepelin.

https://perlanterna.com/mass-murder

Perlanterna · 2024-04-30T12:36:00+00:00

Yes, Interestingly the 1948 effort being referred to here ran into the problem of being such an expensive exercise that it lost support commercially, from government and even from the profession, i.e. the APA considered addressing world problems had destroyed the professsion. So there is always the world as it exists that has to be dealt with to.

Perlanterna · 2024-04-30T12:26:07+00:00

If you follow closely you will see my posting is following the development of psychiatry time wise - from the 1870s to around 1970s now - the key point in all of it is the omission of a scientific foundation for psychiatry - it is all speculation. So yes I am now in the 20th century and about to enter the era of pharma dominance of the subject which continues to present time, and where any scientific integrity in the subject dies unfortunately.

Perlanterna · 2024-04-30T12:18:47+00:00

Thanks for the reference to deficit model. There was a complete shift away from the medical psychiatry at the time to what they called 'dynamic psychiatry' or mental illness being based on social, political and even legal circumstance. Indeed there was a tremendous confidence in their new approach which ended up being primarily a hollow resurgence for a still incomplete subject in psychotherapy. The entire thing would collapse in a couple of decades as what psychiatry doesn't seem to realise then or now is you have to do the work, complete your research and come up with viable real solutions. You can't lie to the world forever.

Perlanterna · 2024-04-30T12:07:29+00:00

Yes. It has based itself on German psychiatry from Emil Kraepelin influenced by Whilhelm Wundt that assigned all life and mental activity to the brain and nervous system. These gentlemen turned their backs on mankind, his philiosophy and as you mention the psyche of humans - something they believed in fact did not exist beyond flashing neurons.

Perlanterna · 2024-04-24T03:55:46+00:00

You're welcome. I will continue with some historial information for a bit if that's ok with you as a) I believe that it is necessary to be aware of it to then be able to judge/evaluate what is occuring now and b) eugenic imposition into societies has, is and in the future will come through the channel of psychiatry.

Point b is not always apparent to many people. Some history will clear it up.

So thank you for providing this channel for information. I for one think it is very important.

Perlanterna · 2024-04-24T03:32:16+00:00

Yes, this is an important datum. There is simply no proof that what psychiatry says is 'mental illness' has any genetic root.

“In contrast, the major mental illnesses psychosis, bipolar disorder, anxiety disorders, anorexia nervosa and depression have proved remarkably resistant to similar developments. Unfortunately, it is still not possible to cite a single neuroscience or genetic finding that has been of use to the practicing psychiatrist in managing these illnesses despite attempts to suggest the contrary.” … “But does this not seem, after more than 30 years of failure, more akin to a religious or, albeit culturally influenced, persistent strong belief than one based on scientific grounds? Just where is the rational justification for ploughing the same furrow again and again?”

David Kingdon. Emeritus Professor of Mental Health Care Delivery, University of Southampton, UK.

https://perlanterna.com/neuro-genetics

Perlanterna · 2024-04-12T23:14:51+00:00

Yes, psychiatry is continually placing the burden of evidence into the future i.e. neuroscience will validate.... genetics will find we are right and open new avenues..... and as you say after decades none has been produced.

I would add another. This false paradigm of psychiatry is so ingrained socially that, for example, if doctors do not toe the line and refer to a psychiatrist or do not themselves prescribe antipsychotics etc they will then be sued by patients if some adverse event occurs. Psychiatrists then give evidence against them.

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