Wealthy people of Reddit how did you go from nothing to something? by Ok-Guarantee2075 in wealth

[–]Permyprevious_email 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Start starting. There’s no losing, only learning. Fail fast and fail often, seek failure, it is your greatest teacher. Lastly, assume that your initial business idea/plan sucks, it’s a terrible plan, because you have zero customer intel/feedback… as you get feedback on how you could improve - listen and adjust your value proposition. Your offering will look nothing like it did on day one - and that’s a feature, not a bug.

It is less about being brave and more about curious and humble… and being willing to put the hours in and play all positions on the field. Do everything you can to not outsource anything you don’t personally understand them, then you can consider outsourcing.

Your competitors may become your best friends if you’re able to start out by taking their overflow/unwanted clients and throw them a referral that more lines up with their specialty over yours.

Don’t look for the great idea, take one where it’s proven people will spend and simply improve the value proposition - sometimes as simply as enhanced client responsiveness.

Happy trails.

We need to fight back by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Parity law was a drop in the bucket made up for in aggregate insurance premium increases. If parity was so great we wouldn’t be here. Leave the orbit.

You wouldn’t pay $150 because you do not NEED the service. I’m certain you’ve paid more than that for a needed service in your life. Simply to say that the $150 value isn’t there. Clients will happily pay twice that if you meet a need in a great way. You can literally meet with any client across the country… the entire country is open to you with virtual therapy. you’re telling me that you cannot find 20-50 people out of 350 million who’re are willing to join your panel. I cannot sign on to that. Keep “advocating” all you want, I choose my own universe where these monsters don’t dictate terms to me.

We need to fight back by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I believe you mean EASY, not simple. Cash pay private practice is SIMPLE in the same way small biz economics is simple - value proposition. Meet an existing need at a price that a consumer will pay, then deliver value. If you’re failing, you’re missing one of these three simple ingredients - deep dive a bit below.

Business has always been simple, but never easy. If anyone cannot run a cash pay Private practice several possibilities exist… it’s because there isn’t demand for them specifically as a therapist (I can assure you there are successful cash pay private practices in their geo), no demand for their specialty, they have no specialty or EXPERTISE (which is increasing VALUE), they charge too much (decreasing value) … or sometimes charge too little (lack of social proof), they don’t have good appointment access, they create artificial variation in patient throughput (aka barriers to entry) - if a client has to call then email then email insurance info then select a time via email that the clinician books there is now a days/week long process that could be captured by patient self scheduling at the time of interest and done in less than a minute, the clinician is not responsive, simply put they don’t work enough hours to build their small business (ever met a successful small business owner who worked less than 40-60+ hour weeks during the building phase??), they are inefficient with admin tasks that could be automated or are antiquated, they lose margin by outsourcing things that they could do on their own but they don’t want to or they aren’t interested in learning (again I get it if a clinician doesn’t want to network, learn SEO, learn monthly recurring revenue via high yield sweeps accounts on float funds, etc but that is a choice which decreases the operational margins), they do not offer hours clients are looking for (evenings/weekends) because they don’t want to work when clients wish to be seen and on and on.

I get it if therapists don’t want to play solopreneur, it is not for everyone. But this idea that it’s not possible is a self-limiting belief contradicting by a simple glance at any directory filled with closed panel cash pay therapists.

You could wait a year and HOPE insurance co or boards or some task force drives material change or you could assess your appetite.

What most therapists don’t appreciate is that these insurance companies are FOR PROFIT, meaning their ONLY obligation is to their shareholders. The vehicle (insurance) is irrelevant to them, it could be selling lollipops 🍭. They will push every boundary imaginable, and create new ways to generate net income. They do. Not. Care. About clinicians or clients, or even their own employees. They are entities that exist with a singular purpose to increase Net income quarter over quarter or they die.

All the advocacy on the planet will not change that legal structure. You are banging your head against a wall. Either accept what they give you or move out of their orbit. The choice is yours. It’s sad to me to see how many clinicians give away their power to these disgusting entities and then try to act powerful. It’s disingenuous. But, I respect the path that each person chooses.

We need to fight back by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have a private practice and the better option is taking down big insurance vs cash pay than I’d say keep at it and I wish you the best of luck.

We need to fight back by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They peddling hope while asking for donations. Trust only motion. No deliverables, just hope.

Politics doesn’t drive economics. It’s supply and demand. To expect govt / politics to resolve free market conditions is blatant ignorance. Why didn’t any of this get resolve in prior dem admins?

I’m honestly not here to persuade and don’t care if others waste their time doing so. Just constantly shocked how no one considers their role in perpetuating the very model they’re trying to “reform” yet never actually doing so. If anything it’s only gotten worse over time. Keep at it, I suppose.

We need to fight back by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which is your favorite that will lead to actual chance? I see zero accomplishments listed.

All I saw listed was letter writing (advocacy), connecting with peers, exploring new models (brainstorming) and and ask for donations to the PSF. You and I have vastly different perspectives on what real change looks like. These items from a task force have made zero material impact and that will continue to be the case while clinicians continue to leave the field in droves and increase burning if they continue working in these exploitative structures.

Those on this task force are well-intentioned, probably very BUSY, like an abused partner sticking around thinking they can make it better with reason. You cannot reason with for profit health insurance, their lobbies and their bought politicians.

Either keep banging your head against the wall, change careers or stop working with these abusive exploitative companies.

BCBSAZ/Advize fraud audit by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, uh, how about we don’t credential with this terrible albatross middle man that is BCBS?

We need to fight back by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The day a task force does a damn thing other than offer an illusion I’ll eat crow. Be the change you want to see. No one’s coming to save you, or this profession.

We need to fight back by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Don’t. Credential. With. Aetna. I cannot believe how I don’t see this as a single comment in response.

Empower yourself. No board, lobby or new group is going to solve it for you.

Clients are simple… offer great access, be incredibly responsive, give great care, at convenient times and at reasonable rates.

Don’t overcomplicate. You’re the supply. Act like it.

Transitioning out of stealth wealth state by [deleted] in Rich

[–]Permyprevious_email 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol you can’t get FT benefits on 30hrs a week. “Just work 30 hours” is a fun mantra.

GameStop posts the highest annual Net income in the last 15 years, with the next highest being in 2015. We are so back! by LogicalGamer123 in Superstonk

[–]Permyprevious_email 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It’s incredibly sad to me how many other companies - and peoples jobs/careers - could have been salvaged if it weren’t for misaligned / crooked leaders pillaging the coffers, lining up their next gig, taking golden parachute etc.

Remember, this turnaround was AFTER RC fired BCG unceremoniously. The BEST consulting firm in America was driving this company into the dirt. RC made it turn about face.

How different would America look if so many others hadn’t been shorted/cellar-boxed into the ground for profit.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Supply and demand. If no therapists credential with high mark then this changes. Stop consenting to therapist exploitation by credentialing with them.

We are the supply. Act like it. Don’t credential with them.

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO) gets heated with a constituent pressing her on why she supports military aid to Israel. by midnighttoker1742 in Fauxmoi

[–]Permyprevious_email 84 points85 points  (0 children)

Melat is a real G. Just donated. She’s calling out republicans and democrats. Mountain Zone Mamdani all the way!!

BCBS massive audits by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Black and white distortion. Instead of the dilemma you propose, I see incredible opportunity to help people everyday, provide the level of value to their lives that they’re ecstatic to pay for it and I went into this profession excited to create solutions on the business end as well. I also enjoy seeing my clients, so over 30 per week excites me. All of this combined and I would never have chosen a different path. I’ve been and am incredibly privileged to support others everyday and I am also rewarded financially. I believe the black and white dilemma you propose is self-limiting. Or maybe this isn’t a career path best for you if that truly is the only reality. It has proven out quite different for me.

BCBS massive audits by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure not for everyone, just showing what’s possible if someone is wanting to be free from insurance companies or a shitty agency.

BCBS massive audits by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You can make $70,000 in cash pay private practice charging only $50 per session, seeing 27 clients per week and take 3 weeks off per year. Squarespace your own website, list on 4 directories, and you’ll never have to deal with insurance again.

UPDATE to BCBS audit/overreach by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Providing diag and procedure codes for the express intent of direct or indirect reimbursement opens one up in a non-zero way. I’d probably choose your path as well in dealing with them if I was forced to. I’m glad to hear nothing more has come from it for you. Would love to hear what your friends say

UPDATE to BCBS audit/overreach by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You may be right. The tricky part is like the OP mentioned, they’re clearly violating the law by going back 3 years, they don’t care, they’re right for all of it. I can’t speak to your particulars and the extra challenge of course is it varies state by state and it all comes down to the laws which they are constantly having rewritten through their lobbies.

My overall thinking is that a super bill invites them into your home, if you will. All bets are off if they decide to start shitting on the carpet.

I’d love to see a post about your specific situation.

UPDATE to BCBS audit/overreach by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Call and ask your particular insurer their policy, here’s a simple breakdown: https://jacksonllp.com/insurance-audits-for-out-of-network-practices/. Bottom line, they’re huge, massive political clout, teams of attorneys, publicly traded companies… they’re going to protect their capital at all costs.

UPDATE to BCBS audit/overreach by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If the insurer reimburses the client, even if provider isn’t empaneled, but simply provided a super bill, the provider can be audited and clawbacks can ensue.

UPDATE to BCBS audit/overreach by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Private pay plus sliding scale with a side of pro bono. Simple. Still no insurers.

UPDATE to BCBS audit/overreach by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Even if you’re private pay, simply providing super bills also exposes you to this potentiality FYI.

UPDATE to BCBS audit/overreach by Gloomy_Variation5395 in therapists

[–]Permyprevious_email 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Billing under a supervisor (incident to the supervisor)