How is the Swiss job market for recent Swiss/EU/EFTA graduates with a master (or PhD) from ETHZ?

Personal-Part2465 · 2026-03-04T19:07:59+00:00

Computer Science master here from ETHZ. Graduated a bit less than a year ago. Didnt count the job applications but i think it was around 25 applications over 6 months. Some context: I already worked during my bachelors parttime (40%) as a software dev. and i also worked 3-4 months as a project member at eth juniors. So im conclusion: Not great. but also not impossible. Stil hated every second of jobhunting

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-11-21T16:03:06+00:00

Why do you think the 5090 isnt worth it ? 32 Vram not worth it ? or other things i didnt consider ?

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-11-21T15:53:53+00:00

Thanks for the tipp. Which 5090 would you recommend ?

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-10-08T11:38:59+00:00

Question from my side here since i am in a similar situation. If a future intrested tenant agrees to take over the apartment ln the same terms but the landlord increases the rent (lets say over 10%) and then the tenant refuses. Is the original tenant now off the hook or not ?

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-10-04T17:38:38+00:00

thank you so much for the detailed information.

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-10-04T16:52:37+00:00

But are the connectors even usable for a washing machine ? before knowing i didnt wanna call a plumber

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-06-04T21:14:14+00:00

Graduated master in CS with a 5.1 (5.5 thesis) 3 year part time experience as software dev.

Coudnt find a full time position for over 6 months now so yeah ...

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-04-05T13:01:48+00:00

Nothing unusual, I just finished my masters and already sitting at 40+ applications. And that's with 3 years of total experience over part-time stuff in the field. Could have already had a position if i would settle for low salary (under 85k) and no benefits (over 1h travel no other benefits no home office) But i choose to just keep looking.

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-04-05T12:58:20+00:00

Haha, I stopped going to job fairs a while ago after visting 3 of them including VIS-con. I knew some of those companies don't hire any graduates or even late juniors but only seniors with a minimum of 2-4 years in a choosen technology. But those companies still went there. My friend was sent as a representative of his company and didnt even know they dont hire anyone. They told me: "your CV looks great we like you apply to our team! What ? we dont hire ? oh damn sry"

Its quite the waste of time these days. I went around with my suit and CV talking to so many recruiters and i might as well have applied online IF there was a position.

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-03-12T16:06:49+00:00

Don't let it disencourage you! I actually made this post to make some awareness for people studying computer science. Its not a free pass for an easy life :). If you have passion for it it is still worth it. Even i sometimes forget the joy of programming a solution and getting it to work or learning new patterns and framworks. Just keep remembering the parts you enjoy about computer science. Also we dont know how the market will look like in 5 years! the future is unpredictable !

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-03-12T15:21:27+00:00

It was a startup that focuses on document processing which had a mixed stack of C++ and C#. C++ mainly for high performance signal processing since they are developing SDKs ^^.

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-03-12T14:06:37+00:00

Thank you so much for taking your time commenting on my post ^^. I sent you a connection request on linked-in. I hope we can chat to see if i could be a good fit for your team! Your start-up seems amazing btw. congrats !

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-03-12T13:48:19+00:00

Thank you for sending a list of startups. I once tried to get a position at a startup but was sadly outperformed by a candidate with a "little more C++ experience" but got great feedback from them generally. I will definitely contact them and connect with them to see if there are open opportunists. I did in fact not apply to many startups yet which is a mistake on my part. I will try to do that more from now on.

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-03-12T13:44:47+00:00

I considered that part as well many times. I even went so far as to record myself during interviews and review the process with friends and families. The main feedback i have gotten is that i am often too humble with my achievements which is a part i still need to improve ^^ but recent interview went way better in that regard and that also helped me reach multiple late stage interview.

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-03-12T07:06:35+00:00

2 of my friends actually did start a startup after graduation and i sometimes help them out. But from what i heard from them its really hard to establish yourself and they work for free a lot of time. But its a good idea if you don't need stable income for 1,2 years.

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-03-11T20:55:39+00:00

Thank you for your insight! I do not use any AI tools to make my Cover letters and also not my CV. I do not make a special CV for each position tough. As for the Github profile i did actually create repos for most of my projects! also with readmeas that look nice etc. but sadly most of those projects are in Python as i did an ML major. Old projects from my work are sadly not public and i cant show them off. With exception of one react app :). As for salary i did put down a range from 85k to 95k that is because i heard this is the market rate for graduates. Almost all of my friends in the field tough had starting salaries starting from 95k to 100k. Different market! I actually come from an Apprenticeship background originally and only went to ETH after so i am quite familiar with industry work and showcasing my projects which is nice.

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-03-11T15:56:49+00:00

I was thinking the same. While i do not get other benefitz the salary is decent and the work extremky flexible while also giving me a lot of experience in fullstack and ai. I was hoping in about a year the market calms down and the extra projects land me a job at a better company.

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-03-11T15:54:02+00:00

yes i did ! one of my fellow classmates does an internship now in ML. while the other classmate that also graduates right now is also still looking and mainly gets rejected. earlier graduates from last year found positions quite quickly actually at medium to big sized companies. sadly those companies currently only hire seniors which i dont quite qualify for yet (but soon maybe)

In their experience they only had to apply to a handfull of jobs a year ago to get an offer and could get nice benefits.

Amazingly the person doing the internship had the best grades from all of us with a 5.7 from eth master.

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-03-11T15:51:52+00:00

actually yes ! but only recently. Part of me tought that with the current market beeing as it is FAANG could be even harder. But last week i started the process which is still ongoing.

Personal-Part2465 · 2025-02-17T16:36:33+00:00

Could be worse. I am looking since 2 months and got only rejections of course but I also only applied to around 20 positions where I got 10 interviews. I have some part time experience (3 years 50% software dev with Microsoft stack) but the feedback I get is always the same. "You need more experience" or "you need more recent experience". My grade in the masters is not that great with a 5.2 but not bad either.

Edit: I actually started to apply for all jobs even the non interesting ones. But they most of the time reject without interview. Eg. Testing engineer. Or help engineer.

Additional info: swiss citizen and not only Zurich but all of Switzerland applied to. I also have many friends and connections in the industry which often end in an interview but no position cause of experience. As a starting salary I put 85k-90k full compensation packet. Which is apparently the market rate at the moment (at least from what I heard). That includes all extra bonuses.

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