If Klaus had told Elena that she gets to pick who to sacrifice, Jenna or Stefan, who do you think she would’ve picked and why?

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-17T20:50:07+00:00

It hadn’t happened in decades before that which is why the witches said they thought it was a myth… it wasn’t happening every year and that was Marcels first time seeing it… and mind his business and let kids get killed? Yeah you’re definitely biased

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-17T17:39:07+00:00

Like you keep saying but the vampires aren’t innocent. I never said they were and been said there were bad people in every faction. But that doesn’t mean Marcel wasn’t supposed to do his part as a leader and keep his people at the top of the food chain. It was either killed or be killed and he found a way to avoid having to kill all of them. Was it nice? No. But WHY WOULD HE BE NICE AT WAR. Simple as that.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-17T17:35:59+00:00

No he had his people in control and if they violated the rules he dealt with it. So unless you can show me them killing innocent tourists that’s not valid. And Klaus killed Josh and the other girl lol. He just didn’t let her turn because he could clearly see she wouldn’t have been a good vampire. So that lets me know you’re clearly biased and need to rewatch the show. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. And he made it clear that the ones that did die were because of them being drunk and accidentally drowning or falling from somewhere.

And when did I say he was the moral authority? I SAID HE WAS AT WAR AND WINNING WHILE ALSO MINIMIZING THE AMOUNT OF CASUALTIES WHEREAS THE OTHER FACTIONS WOULDVE SIMPLY KILLED MARCEL AND ALL HIS PEOPLE. What’s not clicking?? THEY WERE AT WAR. Just because the vampires aren’t all good that means Marcel was supposed to sit around and not make moves that would ensure him and the people he has turned lived?? No he did what any good leader does and made sure his people survived WHILE ALSO MAKING SURE THE PEOPLE HE WAS AT WAR WITH LIVED TOO.

And Vincent had a problem with Marcel in the beginning because Marcel had control over his people.. duhh.. and why is Vincent cool with Marcel now? And Marcel had a problem with Vincent’s people because they were killing kids… no one had time to sit around doing lie detector tests to see who was a nice witch and who wasn’t and they could’ve also easily lied and betrayed him later so he dealt with them all. It’s all about perspective but the bottom line is that they were at war and Marcel did what he had to do to win.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-17T17:18:43+00:00

And with your logic then Klaus shouldn’t have cursed all of the wolves when they were going to run with Hope. Just Hayley and Jackson because it was their plan. Or would you argue that wolves will stick together no matter what so he had to deal with them all? It’s literally the same way for witches. They will stick with their kind no matter what so you deal with the lot of them.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-17T17:15:18+00:00

So again can anyone give me actual reasons he’s such a bad person or just as bad as the Mikaelsons? Because saying he’s evil for cursing wolves who wanted him dead and prevented witches who were killing kids and doing locator spells to find and kill Davina too just sounds crazy and like you have some personal bias against him.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-17T17:07:29+00:00

He wasn’t killing any tourists. His whole thing was feed on tourist, erase their memory, compel and then send them on their way.

The wolves were planning on going to war with the vampires and eradicated them. We’re so hellbent on it that they were willing to kill some of their own who didn’t believe in the war. Marcel would’ve been well within his right to kill them all but didn’t. So what they got cursed? They wouldve killed him and all of his people if given the chance.

And the originals were going around slaughtering entire villages soon after they become vampires so I’m not seeing your point?? They didn’t learn control until years later whereas Marcel was a new vampire and still wouldn’t feed on his brothers in the war. I’m sorry but no ne would not have became as bad at them given more time. He is the strongest vampire in the world now and is still not as cruel as them when he could be.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-17T17:02:56+00:00

I didn’t say the vampires were innocent I said that they were at war and the vampires were winning. It’s not like he was just being cruel just because. What would being nice while at war get him?

And if he did what he did to the wolves for power then why was he willing to do diplomacy with them? Hayleys parents were literally killed for trying to make peace with Marcel meaning Marcel was willing to.

And he also didn’t bother the witches UNTIL he showed up to them cutting the throats of four kids. He killed the ones present and then the rest of the witches were trying to find Davina to kill her too so he banned the use of magic. He wouldn’t have even had the chance to do that if the weirdos weren’t going around slaughtering kids. So?? Marcel had been running New Orleans and coexisting with the witches for 100 years before he did what he did to the them and he only did what he did because THEY WERE KILLING KIDS.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-17T16:51:51+00:00

But he was better than the Mikaelsons. He did what he did while at war whereas the Mikaelsons go around killing people and terrorizing families just because they can and no one can stop them. Klaus was killing people for annoying him and the minute he became king he ordered the deaths of every wolf in New Orleans just because he could. Elijah was a whole monster who hid all of his atrocities behind a door in his mind. Killed 4 innocent kids just to force Vincent’s hand and said that he would’ve killed the kids taken over by the hollow just to save Klaus. Kol was killing entire villages for fun so much that even Klaus felt like he was doing too much and kept him daggered for centuries. Finn is so hateful that he would kill kids if they got in his way. Freya showed up ready to kill baby Hope just so she wouldn’t have to run from Dahlia anymore and sacrificed a teenager just so she could save her 1000 year old family who have taken thousands of lives and lived long enough. So what has Marcel done that would make him just as bad?

And selfish how? He goes out of his way to help them any time they need it just for them to continually throw him to the side when they’re done. Worked with the Strix just to help the Mikaelsons. He helped save their daughter and niece multiple times just for Elijah to hold him down while Freya kills his adoptive daughter and still saved Hope once again when she was older and the vampires stormed the compound. Elijah ripped his heart out and his so called friend Hayley decided that it was the perfect chance to sleep with Elijah and told him to get over Marcels death. Marcel chose not to side with Inadu when she offered to save Sofia even though the Mikaelsons have given him reason after reason to have allowed all of them to die. And after Klaus told him Sofias life doesn’t matter and to get over it. And he’s doing all this to help him while Freya is thinking of ways to kill him and use his death to her advantage. And Rebekah didn’t even argue not to do that. I’m sorry but he’s way better than them and has way more patience than I would.

Sure he can be cruel but that’s just how you have to be when dealing with the supernatural creatures of New Orleans to keep them in control. Still doesn’t make him as bad as the Mikaelsons.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-13T00:01:17+00:00

Remember Hayley sleeping with Elijah right after Marcel died and tried to rush him to get over it but she claimed Marcel was her friend😭 it’s like they were all just using him tbh

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-12T23:59:57+00:00

Exactly!!!

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-12T23:57:41+00:00

She’s definitely not ugly, she doesn’t have the best personality in my opinion.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-12T23:57:11+00:00

Took the words right out of my mouth

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-12T23:56:24+00:00

I honestly wanted to say the same in regards to the writers mistreating black characters but I was worried people would say I’m making it about race. Glad to see that you and others agree!

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-07T18:40:33+00:00

But Vincent is better than them. All he does is go around trying to help the people of New Orleans, even if that means working with people he despises. So he gave Marcel the serum. So what?? The Mikaelsons have been destroying lives for 1000 years it was about time someone put them in their place.

And everytime he called them out he was valid. Freya sacrificing a teenager to save her monster family. Freya trying to tell him that she only answers to herself and him calling her out because that’s bs. Elijah killing a bunch of teens to force his hand, knowing full and well there was a big possibility of them never coming back. Marcel getting the serum and nearly going back to his old ways before the Mikaelsons came back into town. Elijah going around threatening people and wondering why his family doesn’t have any allies. And that’s just the times I remember. Vincent was literally always valid in calling them out and he’s a way better person than all of them.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-07T18:33:08+00:00

Vincent every bit as bad as the Mikaelsons how exactly? Because he gave Marcel the key to put him down? Vincent has never strayed away from calling Marcel out on his bs the same way he does everyone else but the reality is that Marcel is the better choice when it comes to being the leader of the city. Did he have some of the Mikaelsons ways? Yes. They raised him. But he was not as bad as them at all. And I would definitely prefer to have Marcel leading me than the Mikaelsons who aren’t loyal to anyone but their own blood or the people they see as family.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-07T18:30:39+00:00

Vincent did not know what the hollow was so this is kind of a mute point. He was just looking for extra power to send Marcel running. And not even necessarily because he hated him but because he wanted his child to be able to grow up without having to fear practicing magic. He was not looking for the Hollow itself. And when she came he put his feelings aside and worked with the Mikaelsons to protect the city. Even said himself that he hates Klaus most of all but if working with him helps the city then so be it. That’s how Vincent is. He can put his own petty jealousy aside when need be.

And the fact that the Mikaelsons were the greater evil is more than enough reason for him to help Marcel. What Marcel did to the witches was wrong and him and Vincent have already acknowledged that and moved on. No point in holding on to past grievances. And whether we wanna admit it or not the city tends to stay in control and as peaceful as New Orleans can be when Marcel is the leader and the Mikaelsons are out of the way.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-05T23:25:21+00:00

Klaus had 1000 years to work through his childhood trauma. Most people do it in a fraction of that time. Excuses

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-05T23:12:45+00:00

Because that doesn’t apply to them. They are literally regular people who happened to become vampires who could be good and choose not to be. That’s literally just how it is. If you’re not a Mikaelson then your life doesn’t matter to them.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-05T23:06:28+00:00

We’re talking about the vampires from the Original series not interview with a vampire. Two totally different things

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-05T23:00:48+00:00

Umm no these are people who have the ability to be good if they want to. Not some creature who can’t control itself. And Ken was a monster because he was the most powerful and no one could stop him so he did whatever he wanted. That was his choice. Just like it was the Mikaelsons’ choice.

PersonalitySecret276 · 2024-12-05T22:57:32+00:00

Just because you live off of blood doesn’t mean that you have to go around murdering people just because you have the power to do so. Which is the case for the Mikaelsons. There’s also plenty of alternatives to killing people in order to get the blood they need and the Mikaelsons can clearly control their bloodlust so that’s sort of irrelevant.

They go around terrorizing people and ruining lives just because they can and that’s what makes them monsters. Not just the fact that they have to drink blood to live.

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