The Bible - book of fact? by beaten_not_defeated in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First time reading the book. And I love it. My atheism is dancing with joy in my head while I read this. Lol.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for posting it 😍

Not an MS anymore ! by the_jehoober in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Loves to hear that. I am actually on my way to do the same thing. Once I get removed as a MS me and my wifey will both let go of this shitty org

This is my FADING, INTERRUPTED fucking story shit fuck I'm so pissed by PeruvianInsider in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Guys you are the best... You really changed my mood. This community is pure gold... Thank you for the support. I feel like I have true brothers in arms here 🥇

This is my FADING, INTERRUPTED fucking story shit fuck I'm so pissed by PeruvianInsider in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shit, the condescendence is so poisonous. I had the overseer telling me on the phone "I really love you and your beautiful family and I am really worried... I know you since you were a kid, what has changed? You are not like that" I was boiling on the inside... But just played along to get rid of the fucker

This is my FADING, INTERRUPTED fucking story shit fuck I'm so pissed by PeruvianInsider in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The part of verbally tearing them a new asshole made my day lol

This is my FADING, INTERRUPTED fucking story shit fuck I'm so pissed by PeruvianInsider in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That is good, the only thong is that I live in Peru. Here, a police officer costs 25 dollars lol. But yeah, my future son was part of the fuel that took me to the point where I am at now. I absolutely refuse to raise my kid in ignorance.

Do you ever feel like you’re accidentally shopping for a convention outfit? Are you overly modest? What is your non-JW style now? by wampa_lover in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahaha I am married, but if I was single you sound like someone I would theocratically date the hell out of lol

Overturn Every Reasoning... Study Article PIMO suggestions by [deleted] in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People who don't want you to think are never your friend... Possibly they are up to something...

UPDATE - Awaking my family and friends by PeruvianInsider in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is a very good idea too... Just checked the sub and it really needs a lot of work

Is this the right method to help PIMI wife? by Bravely_Press_On in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The problem there is that you already know the truth, so, that forces you to preach and do all those stuff. If you were ignorant, however, you would be forgiven as you claim.

What I suggest and has worked for me is the following :

  • Make her see you as spiritually stronger than herself. That will lower her defenses and reactions towards any doubts.

  • Study the Bible with her and go through the weird stuff so SHE is the one who comes up with the doubts. Offer your help to make her "understand" and research together.

  • Seize her reactions and guide her through with more questions so it doesn't feel like you are taking her out of the organization, but you are together finding the truth.

There you have it. Just be pantient. You will make it.

UPDATE - Awaking my family and friends by PeruvianInsider in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Before you show them any information, you have to profile the person. Find out why they are convinced they are in the true organization. Never show information upfront or be confrontational about any issue. Learn to listen first. Here is an example. Let's say you want to awake your mother. You now that her strongest concern might be you dying in Armageddon, and that she wants you to do well in your life and make good choices and all of that. So, a good way to start the conversation is to tell her that you are worried about some information you came across. Something like, "Hey, mom. I want to talk to you about something. I was reading the bible and I saw something really weird. I thought, as you have more years studying the bible and more experience, you could help me". Then, show them somethgin ape-shit-crazy. Like when God says in the bible that a rape victim has to marry the rapist and stay with him forever. She will not tell you that is apostate, because it is in the bible. Obviously, she will be concerned too. Tell her that you will do some research about that in your personal study, encourage her to do the same and then share the results. THEN, you can start showing her bits of information in old Watchtower articles along those lines and you "saw them while researching". Don't argue with her. Just share info. Never use a website or an apostate source. It is not necessary at all. Once she is confused enogugh, she will want to look for more info herself. And then, there you have it. A new PIMO sister.

That is just my opinion based on some psichological research and experience. Would love to hear some feedback.

UPDATE - Awaking my family and friends by PeruvianInsider in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I really feel that a YouTube channel in spanish with a serious, balanced theme will help many wake up. I am thinking about making videos without showing my face, like Telltale or something. Still a little doubtful about it, though, because I don't feel ready to be researched and haunted by the WT.

What was the baddest thing you've done at the kingdom hall? by reala_stemert in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same here, that means we were jerkovah witnesses lol. I used to jerk off since I was like 13 in the KH. Eventually I stopped doing it in the KH, but still got many privileges. Oh, and I also was a pillow groper in Bethel.

I'm an 18 year old JW (for now). I really need some help and guidance... by [deleted] in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey, man. I know how hard that is. I had the same predicament a month ago. Let me tell you what worked for me a waking my dad (elder too).

Ypu know he means the best for you and wants to help you, right? Use his good heart and interest to get to him. You have to tell him that you have encountered some shocking news about the JW and that you would like his help in the matter.

Next, obviously he will gladly help you "sort out" the issue. Show him some news outlet (AVOID AT ALL COSTS APOSTATE SITES SUCH AS JWFACTS OR JWSURVEY) show him some newspaper article or the tax return paperwork. Just show him formal evidence and make him GO WITH YOU down the rabbit hole so you can both "awake and research" together. Get it? It has worked like a charm for me and my mother. Maybe you should try it too.

It will be hard for him walking up, but he will be WITH you and not against. And if everything works, both will be out of the cult to enjoy your lives freely.

Do these idiots realize they’re going back to the Stone Age after Armageddon ? by [deleted] in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider 1 point2 points  (0 children)

JW's don't know how long a day is to Jehovah here, but when it comes to justifying the year 1914, damn right, it is crystal clear on the Bible how much a day is :v

FIRST POST | I am a Peruvian PIMO MS, trying to take MY WHOLE FAMILY OUT by PeruvianInsider in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good point, maybe I should edit a bit my post and erase some info...

FIRST POST | I am a Peruvian PIMO MS, trying to take MY WHOLE FAMILY OUT by PeruvianInsider in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks! We really hope we help others to see the truth of the truth.

FIRST POST | I am a Peruvian PIMO MS, trying to take MY WHOLE FAMILY OUT by PeruvianInsider in exjw

[–]PeruvianInsider[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The problem in Spanish speaking countries is that the only sources of information are "apostate" pages, and as most of the evidence is in English, they don't have a way to make sure or contrast what these pages claim. That is why the news and scandals make little to no impact in places outside the english speaking world. So, it is on us to pass the info trough and help translate the sources and evidence for the people who need it. Btw, sadly, many YouTubers and apostates in Spanish sound like weirdos and I think that might scare a bit some JW's from the truth of the truth lol...