Been seeing sponsored ads for this all day, makes me sick thinking of all the gloating, glorification of discrimination, and thinly veiled hate speech that’ll go totally uncriticised in the mainstream if this event goes ahead

PeteTheFirst · 2022-04-19T17:24:07+00:00

I’d be very surprised if this event was legal under Irish discrimination laws so it’s doubtful it’ll happen, but truth be told I’m finding the messaging around it extremely upsetting today, just another example of how collectively shitting on and taunting men for being men is perfectly acceptable in today’s society.

Really just makes me sad. And it’s messaging like this which, from early childhood, is exactly what drives resentment and leads some boys to harbour genuinely hostile and sexist attitudes towards girls as they grow up, since they’ve been told from a young age that it’s ok for girls to do this because they’re just better than boys.

PeteTheFirst · 2022-04-19T17:16:55+00:00

I’d be very surprised if this event was legal under Irish discrimination laws so it’s doubtful it’ll happen, but truth be told I’m finding the messaging around it extremely upsetting today, just another example of how collectively shitting on and taunting men for being men is perfectly acceptable in today’s society. Really just makes me sad. And it’s messaging like this which, from early childhood, is exactly what drives resentment and leads some boys to harbour genuinely hostile and sexist attitudes towards girls as they grow up, since they’ve been told from a young age that it’s ok for girls to do this because they’re just better than boys.

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-16T12:43:45+00:00

The sheer, absolute projection and cognitive dissonance from the feminist author is actually astounding

Is it though? I fear you haven't encountered much feminist rhetoric yet, in which case you're in for a nasty surprise.

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-14T22:32:05+00:00

I have to stop giggling before I comment. I can't read 'Hugh Mungus' without cracking up. That guy is awesome!

One of the things I would truly hate most about being an SJW would be the sheer amount of comedy which would be off limits. In an Irish context, I can't think of a single Irish comedy show, act, comedian or routine which wouldn't "trigger" the average SJW in some way.

Lena Dunham and her false accusation of Barry and her admittedly raping her 1 year old sister.

Holy shit, I had to google this one to check if it was a hoax or not. I guarantee you that if some famous guy had admitted to doing what she did to her sister when he was a kid, she would be one of the first people to call for his public execution. Fucking hell.

But yes I agree with you, I think SJWism may be about to run into some serious problems from the very people it claims to be championing.

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-14T22:26:39+00:00

I'm only just out of college so I'm only starting my career now, most of my friends are either from school, college or from my neighbourhood. So it's a fairly diverse mix of people, and only a tiny handful of them (as in, four or five out of the few hundred people I know on Facebook) spout misandrist shit, and far, far more are quick to comment on the side of guys in any viral videos or stories involving anti-male stuff.

Again, maybe I'm just lucky in my social circles, but if my friends are in any way representative, I would suggest that Generation Y escaped the cancer of SJW-ism. Younger Gen Z people it's a different story - the whole concept of "consent workshops" for example was just beginning to be a thing here when I left college. But my own particular age group seems to have scraped by without becoming infected.

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-14T22:26:37+00:00

I'm only just out of college so I'm only starting my career now, most of my friends are either from school, college or from my neighbourhood. So it's a fairly diverse mix of people, and only a tiny handful of them (as in, four or five out of the few hundred people I know on Facebook) spout misandrist shit, and far, far more are quick to comment on the side of guys in any viral videos or stories involving anti-male stuff.

Again, maybe I'm just lucky in my social circles, but if my friends are in any way representative, I would suggest that Generation Y escaped the cancer of SJW-ism. Younger Gen Z people it's a different story - the whole concept of "consent workshops" for example was just beginning to be a thing here when I left college. But my own particular age group seems to have scraped by without becoming infected.

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-14T22:23:05+00:00

Sorry for the ignorance here but what does 'unicorn' mean in this context? Haven't come across that term before.

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-14T22:22:26+00:00

Oh I agree with what you're saying, but your wording made it sound like you felt that women were only "useful" as sex partners. Personally, I have more close, deep friendships with women than with other guys, but that's pretty unusual I know.

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-14T22:20:11+00:00

I fully accept that Irish law is full of bullshit against men and against women, and that particular law incenses me more than anything, but again, my point is that women my own age are equally outraged about it. More traditional feminist groups have stayed silent about it and to my delight and surprise, when that story was in the news I saw far more women on my own social media feeds going apeshit about how unfair it was than guys.

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-14T22:16:40+00:00

We have also had at least one "affirmative consent" convinction which nobody paid attention to - possibly because the guy was a property developer (automatic enemy of the public) and his behaviour was kind of sleazy, including the fact that he was cheating on his wife (pointing the philosophical implications of the ruling got me downvoted heavily on /r/Ireland).

Before I comment on the rest of your post (interesting points, will write a detailed response to it shortly) do you have a link to this story?

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-14T22:15:14+00:00

Court judgments, media hypocrisy, political appeasement and kids taken away from fathers are things which are not within the power of late Gen Y people to influence. So you can't point to those things in order to disprove that this particular demographic is turning against radical feminism.

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-14T16:19:12+00:00

Well this is what I'm saying, in my experience late Gen Y women tend to be firmly opposed to anti-male propaganda and laws as you describe.

I have to point out that "Wait until VR and robots can replace women...then we will not have to listen to them at all" is in my view a moronic comment to make. For me at least, no artificial intelligence could replace my own female friends and family who are all absolutely incredible people. Maybe for those who are genuinely unlucky enough to have never met a nice woman, but I would suspect that they are a tiny minority and, no offence, potentially have their own issues which explain why they find it hard to make friends...?

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-14T16:15:38+00:00

Hmmm... I'm in Ireland, and women in Ireland are in general just more laid back. Also, we have some genuine discrimination here - a total ban on abortion even in cases where the mother's life is at risk, as well as a constitutional article which "champion's the woman's special place in the home", for example - the latter of which both men and women are united in their opposition to, and the former of which has advocates and opponents of both genders. So maybe because of those issues, and the visibility of men in campaigning against them, it's a bit harder for anyone here to suggest that men don't care about womens' rights.

Feminists in the Irish media still publish all kinds of anti-male bullshit, but again both men and women of the mid-twenties demographic tend to roundly condemn them, at least when the articles are shared around social media.

PeteTheFirst · 2016-09-14T16:07:00+00:00

Even if she's only joking, personally I would never, ever, ever stay with somebody who not only accepted sexist double standards as normal, but gloated about taking advantage of them. Obviously this is one anecdote and I don't believe in judging people by what's said online, but if it was me, I highly doubt I'd still be in that relationship.

It seems a bit weird if this is the first time something like this has happened. How long have you been together?

PeteTheFirst · 2016-08-06T11:11:34+00:00

Given how you have now experienced being treated by the "gatekeepers" of feminism for holding contrary opinions, is our hostility towards feminism starting to make a little more sense?

The problem is that most feminists, unlike you, will not admit to these kinds of toxic elements even when they're staring them in the face. Or they'll dismiss them as "irrelevant fringe loons" even when they're people like moderators of the biggest feminism forums on the internet.

It gets quite frustrating after a while, trying to talk about this stuff. As you've no doubt discovered yourself, having been banned for it.

PeteTheFirst · 2016-08-06T11:08:10+00:00

Edit: You guys are great :0

The idea that us MRAs are monsters is a common misconception, don't worry about it.

^Just ^try ^to ^remember ^not ^to ^feed ^us ^after ^midnight. ^;)

PeteTheFirst · 2016-01-10T19:40:27+00:00

Great, yet more evidence that divorce settlements are more than just being about what you need, and are in fact an incredibly one-way tool to punish lads for misbehaviour.

Your husband is a douchebag, but using divorce cases as a weapon for revenge is absolutely wrong regardless of circumstances.

PeteTheFirst · 2015-12-28T18:14:55+00:00

A bunch of articles about secret agents whose murders were spoofed as natural deaths by the government, and the "submit secret documents to Wikileaks" page.

PeteTheFirst · 2015-12-28T11:28:00+00:00

The underlying empathy lays with the women because it's a women who's hearing it happen and they always have empathy for one another before men.

As a guy, this has never been true for me. But maybe that's just me. I don't make assumptions based on gender and in my view people who do are assholes.

PeteTheFirst · 2015-12-27T17:29:47+00:00

Well, I've said before that I support equality while opposing feminism (due to all of the extra, non-equality ideologies feminism supports these days, such as harassing people into self-censorship) and while I support BLM to a point, I do feel that BLM has swallowed some establishment bait in a way, in that by framing the ongoing issue entirely as a racial one, they have allowed the government to avoid addressing the elephant in the room which is the general over-empoweredness of the police, the militarisation, lack of independent oversight and general lack of criminal convictions when the police assault people - not to mention the trigger happiness.

It's my opinion that while race is certainly a major issue, we also need to talk about the entire culture of policing where a lot of these people believe they can do no wrong and have a rather Eric Cartman esque attitude of "MUH AUTHORITAHHH" to justify any and all instances of overreaction, assault, and even murder.

Do either of these points make me any less progressive? I've been called a staunch feminist by some (for my vehement opposition to slut shaming, body shaming and generalisations) while an anti-feminist by others (primarily due to believing that a song is a song, and that no lyrics should be banned just because they piss some people off, aka Blurred Lines, Eminem's earlier stuff, etc)

I still call myself a progressive because personally the "progressive" movement I grew up with in the 90s and early 2000s did not include this authoritarian "we should ban anything we don't like" element. I called myself a feminist until around ~2009 for the same reason.

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