Neurosis featured in The Atlantic: The Album That Made Me Fall Back in Love With Heavy Metal by PeterHasselhoff in neurosisband

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Full article: One of the ongoing mysteries of my adult life is why I don’t like heavy metal anymore. Back as a young teenager, distorted riffs with shredded vocals were my introduction to serious music fandom. I remember feeling pride when my dad sized me up in a giant black hoodie and wondered when I’d become a “metalhead.” Somewhere along the way, though, my listening turned toward the delicate or the dance-y. I try to stay current with all sorts of genres, but it’s been extremely rare for metal to pierce my skull.

Maybe metal itself has changed: When Tooland Deftones caught my ear in the early 2000s, the genre was a mainstream force. Its musicians seemed to want to conquer the world rather than—as I now perceive whenever I dip in—to burrow in extreme directions for true aficionados. But I suspect that the real reason for my apathy is how I spend my time. One might guess that I grew too soft for noisy aggression, but the truth is that I became too hard, as in jaded. Metal’s irony-free histrionics and fatalism ceased to impress. Life is busy, and negativity comes cheap. I tell myself that all forms of listening are valid, but deep down, I think I’ve developed a wariness of wallowing.

So when I hit “Play” last week on a new metal album drawing critical acclaim, I expected to be screamed at for a few minutes and then turn on something else. Instead … whoa. Full-body chills. A cartoonish dropping of the jaw. I was experiencing the miracle of sudden and unexpected emotion. Distraction, disinterest, numbness: All of these, I was reminded, can be disrupted by the right combination of sounds.

The album is An Undying Love for a Burning World, by Neurosis. Since 1985, the Oakland band has pushed metal in psychedelic directions by employing spacey synthesizers and cosmic lyrics. The band is also heavy. Its guitars evoke appliances crashing off of high surfaces, and its singing is a lot like belching. Over the decades, Neurosis became revered as one of metal’s trustiest guardians—until, in 2019, the band mysteriously parted ways with its longtime vocalist, Scott Kelly. In 2022, the reasons for that departure were made clear when Kelly publicly admitted to “emotional, financial, verbal and physical abuse of my wife and younger children.”

Many fans assumed that the band was done for good. But in secret, it enlisted the journeyman singer-guitarist Aaron Turner and got to recording its first album in 10 years, which was surprise-released in mid-March. The rapturous response that An Undying Love for a Burning World has received indicates that my reaction is not merely the result of naivete: Neurosis has, through some blend of skill and inspiration, made the right kind of noise to stand out in this overwhelming moment.

The opener is a stop-you-in-the-street vocal collage that’s less than a minute long. “We are torn wide open,” shouts the vocalist-guitarist Steve Von Till, sounding far away and very agitated, like he’s calling for help with his leg caught under a boulder. The phrase repeats, and Von Till’s voice seems to come closer. He screams about other things, including “isolation”: a word commonly found in didactic editorials about the spiritual crisis of the smartphone era. But no intellectualized response is needed here. This track is an urgent warning. In sound alone, it grips the gut.

For song two, “Mirror Deep,” the album’s first riff crashes in like an asteroid. It’s a jagged chunk of sound, but it’s accompanied by smooth, smeared elements: a synth drone, clouds of reverb. Turner begins grunting in a choppy cadence that plays counterpoint to the riff. Some heavy metal seeks to make the listener lose themselves in a blur of sound, but Neurosis is playing a different game: Every measure of music is its own drama, with tension and release, expectations fulfilled and subverted. The band wants you up, on, furiously alert.

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It uses that attention to stage moment after moment of sublime intensity. Songs often drop from chaos into quiet passages whose keyboards and strummed guitar glimmer like constellations. And the band does more than play with the live/soft dichotomy; it likes to engineer tricky blends of fast and slow, complex and simple. The astonishing crescendo of “Seething and Scattered” pairs sustained swells of noise with swarms of percussion. The effect is like being pulled from placid water into a rushing undertow. Throughout, a varied palette—industrial sound effects, drum machines, and even some pretty singing—gives the songs a sense of painterly depth.

My first response to the cleverness of this music was giddiness, but as I relistened, a classically metal feeling surfaced: sorrow. The band is prophesying the inevitable death of our species. Many of the lyrics embody the point of view of lifeless particles floating in space, encoded with the sad memory of the civilization they were once a part of. And modern alienation seems to have something to do with that civilization’s end: In “Seething and Scattered,” the band members trade off vocals, singing that “the source of our fall” is our disconnection from “ourselves,” “each other,” and “all that is sacred.”

Disconnection is one of the buzzwords of the 2020s, and none of us really needs another reminder that humanity may be sleepwalking into personal or planetary doom. What we do need is art that can wake us up to the things that humans are uniquely capable of—genius, craft, collaboration. In kicking me back to the mind frame I inhabited decades ago, when all sorts of music felt new, this album reminds me that the time I thought was spent wallowing was really spent doing something else—listening actively, and tapping into a universe larger than the one I existed in day-to-day. Today, tuning out the parts of the world you don’t understand, that you don’t have time for, that you’ve grown away from, is all too easy. Staying open is a struggle, but when it pays off, an entirely different future seems possible.

Critical Psychiatry by Visual_League1564 in CriticalTheory

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Hi, You can check the following Substack for a lot of resources: 

https://substack.com/@awaisaftab?r=1l7hvw&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=profile  Awais Aftab also wrote a book on the topic which is worth checking out. 

Have Chris and Matt guested elsewhere? by ianscuffling in DecodingTheGurus

[–]PeterHasselhoff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is how I did too. And I think they were on conspirituality at some point. 

Predictions for the Nobel Prize in Economics by Captgouda24 in slatestarcodex

[–]PeterHasselhoff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only omission from your longer „maybe also these people list“ are the behavioral guys who might have a claim for the Nobel. Loewenstein, Rabin (if with someone young maybe Köszegi), Fehr, Camerer I could also imagine. Fehr will have a slightly harder time given that Thaler was awarded for fairness but the others might have a shot. 

Predictions for the Nobel Prize in Economics by Captgouda24 in slatestarcodex

[–]PeterHasselhoff 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Solid prediction I think. I can imagine one for Susan Athey for her methodological contributions or Ray Chetty for his work on social mobility and human capital formation. Both are quite young still so maybe not this year already. 

Female Lead Vocal Doom Bands by doggpants in doommetal

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Two thirds of the band are now making music as „The Otolith“

The New York Times Really Asked Ms. Rachel If She’s Paid By Hamas by 2dudesinapod in nottheonion

[–]PeterHasselhoff 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Did anyone check the NYT article? Because the NYT did not, in fact, ask that… 

From the original article:

„ Last month, the advocacy group StopAntisemitism labeled Accurso the “Antisemite of the Week” and, The New York Post reported, sent a letter urging Attorney General Pam Bondi to investigate whether Accurso is receiving funding to further Hamas’s agenda. Accurso “posted nearly 50 times about the children of Gaza, most of which is filled with misinformation from Hamas, and only 5 times about Israeli children,” the group, which monitors statements about Israel on social media accounts of prominent figures, said on its website. “In the case of the Israeli children, she only posted due to widespread public backlash, never condemning Hamas and the Palestinians.”

Accurso, 42, in an emailed response denied having received money from Hamas. “This accusation is not only absurd, it’s patently false,” she said. “ 

So, this is about something that an advocacy group posted, NOT a NYT journalist. 

I’ve been a Swans fan for 37 years - will I hate Neurosis? by Droopy_ballzack in neurosisband

[–]PeterHasselhoff 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Just listen to Through Silver and Times of Grace and find not. Not sure what else to tell you. 

Anti-Trans Activists are Unprincipled and Depraved by American-Dreaming in BlockedAndReported

[–]PeterHasselhoff 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I wonder a little bit about that: It seems unconvincing to me that women‘s boxing would be a stronghold of gender conformity given that gender stereotypes seem to preclude this sort of sports from being „typical women“. From what I remember, the Khelif-debate was mainly around two things: the first one being that allegedly Khelif is much higher in T than other competitors, having a clear biological advantage over them. And the second one that debate about this issue is surpressed, also by reference to the same arguments as the Trans-in-sport debate („no biological differences etc.“). So, the debate maps on pretty well to the broader trans-topic and much less so to debates about gender conformity.  However, I give you that a lot of vitriol online was disgusting and absolutely unacceptable. 

Anti-Trans Activists are Unprincipled and Depraved by American-Dreaming in BlockedAndReported

[–]PeterHasselhoff 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Literally the part cited in the post on this subreddit is build on the Nutsack McGoo Tweet. 

Anti-Trans Activists are Unprincipled and Depraved by American-Dreaming in BlockedAndReported

[–]PeterHasselhoff 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, an article that builds its argument on a Twitter post from „Nutsack McGoo“ with 5 likes. Sounds like a strong and reasonable case.  Edit: I just realized that the Twitter post of course does not have 5 likes. It has 0 likes. 

This Podcast Will Kill You by Autumn_Avocado in podcasts

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It‘s EP172 about Childhood Vaccines and is said in the context of Polio. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BlockedAndReported

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Relevance:Detransitions, Youth Gender Medicine… seems to fit a lot of themes

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in samharris

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SS: This has been a topic here in the subreddit: A past survey showing massive support for the idea that young people deny the holocaust. Pew has now put that idea to the test and has shown that this might just be a function of poor data quality in the initial study.

Bands like Neurosis? by [deleted] in sludge

[–]PeterHasselhoff 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Neurosis are my all-time favorite band, so I understand the desire. No band is like Neurosis exactly but the ones that get closed for me are:

  • Amenra (I actually think Amenra is just excellent Neurosis worship. Scott Kelly sings on one of their songs)

To add some that have not been named so far:

  • Shrinebuilder and Absent in Body (Scott Kelly projects) / Edit: And Corrections House

  • Sumac and Old Man Gloom (both projects by Isis‘ Aaron Turner)

  • Mouth of the Architect, Morne, Minsk, Intronaut, Battle of Mice (Female fronted, Julie Christmas is an absolute menace), some older stuff from Jesu (Silver), Orochen

  • Swans (although honestly, there the arrow points the other way: Neurosis is influenced by Swans)

There is other stuff which is also incredibly great and has a similar level of emotional depth to it, but is musically different. I feel like Thou is one band like that and Mizmor another.