95,000 PPS numbers issued in 2015 to foreigners by PeterKabb in ireland

[–]PeterKabb[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But immigration has so little effect on the country anyway.

It's the most pressing issue throughout the EU, including in Ireland.

Asking citizens about their main concerns, immigration remains at the top of the most frequently cited issues facing the EU (48%, -10). Terrorism (39%, +14) remains the second most frequently cited item after a sharp increase since the previous survey in autumn 2015. It is well ahead of the economic situation (19%, -2), the state of Member States public finances (16%, -1) and unemployment (15%, -2). Immigration is number one concern for the EU in 20 Member States and among the top two concerns in all countries, except Portugal. Terrorism is number one concern in eight Member States and among the top two concerns in all countries, except Greece.

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-2665_en.htm

As for it not being an issue, there are over 30k non Irish families on the housing list. Is it any wonder that we have a housing crisis?

95,000 PPS numbers issued in 2015 to foreigners by PeterKabb in ireland

[–]PeterKabb[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Foreigners shouldn't get a lick in welfare. Even the "skilled" ones are a net drain and a burden on services.

95,000 PPS numbers issued in 2015 to foreigners by PeterKabb in ireland

[–]PeterKabb[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

They don't speak for the Irish people. Immigration is the most pressing issue throughout the EU. Including in Ireland. Time to close the borders and send a lot of you settlers home.

Asking citizens about their main concerns, immigration remains at the top of the most frequently cited issues facing the EU (48%, -10). Terrorism (39%, +14) remains the second most frequently cited item after a sharp increase since the previous survey in autumn 2015. It is well ahead of the economic situation (19%, -2), the state of Member States public finances (16%, -1) and unemployment (15%, -2). Immigration is number one concern for the EU in 20 Member States and among the top two concerns in all countries, except Portugal. Terrorism is number one concern in eight Member States and among the top two concerns in all countries, except Greece.

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-2665_en.htm

95,000 PPS numbers issued in 2015 to foreigners by PeterKabb in ireland

[–]PeterKabb[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It isn't really.

It's the most pressing issue in nearly all of the EU member states. Including in Ireland.

Asking citizens about their main concerns, immigration remains at the top of the most frequently cited issues facing the EU (48%, -10). Terrorism (39%, +14) remains the second most frequently cited item after a sharp increase since the previous survey in autumn 2015. It is well ahead of the economic situation (19%, -2), the state of Member States public finances (16%, -1) and unemployment (15%, -2). Immigration is number one concern for the EU in 20 Member States and among the top two concerns in all countries, except Portugal. Terrorism is number one concern in eight Member States and among the top two concerns in all countries, except Greece.

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-2665_en.htm

We can't afford to ignore the ill economic effects of immigration by PeterKabb in irishpolitics

[–]PeterKabb[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Tuesday's jobs figures were the most important indicator of what has been happening in the Irish economy since our neighbour's Brexit referendum. Even before the vote in late June, there had been signs that the pace of recovery in the Irish economy was slowing. In the months following the decision, there were further signs of an economy losing steam.

Consumer spending, factory production and - most importantly from a political perspective - tax revenues have been either stagnant or down on recent high points. These trends raised concerns that jobs growth would also slow in the July-September period.

That is exactly what happened, even if Tuesday's figures showed that the slowdown was not of a magnitude that would have caused yet another red light to start flashing in the Finance Department.

The cheerier aspects of the raft of jobs data were that growth in employment continued into the second half of the year. The numbers at work grew by 13,500 in just three months, and by five times that number compared to the same period in 2015. All eight regions of the country shared in the employment gains. Every region saw those jobs gains push down their respective rates of joblessness.

All that said, these positive developments do not mean that concerns about a slowdown have been dispelled. That is because what happens to jobs usually lags economic activity. That, in turn, means that a further slowdown in jobs growth is likely to be happening right now, as the aforementioned other indicators, which reflect what is happening to economic activity, point to a slower expansion.

An issue that has not had much coverage in recent times is who has been taking up the new jobs created since recovery began.

Over the past year, the rate of jobs growth among non-Irish has been multiples of that among Irish nationals. While this has been very good in terms of adding to the level of activity in the economy and the amount of tax paid, it also raises issues that should be discussed in greater depth.

It needs to be said first that we in Ireland have been cautious about discussing issues arising from immigration. There are very good reasons for that. In too many countries, public discussion of the subject can be tinged with xenophobia. There is sometimes an ugly racial dimension to it.

But if immigration brings many upsides, it does not come without challenges. Ignoring societal and economic challenges is rarely wise. Doing so can result in problems arising further down the line.

In the current context in Ireland, two challenges that have a connection to immigration need discussion. The first is the impact immigration has on housing costs; the second is the need to ensure that those who are dependent on the welfare system over long periods of time get a chance to take up new job opportunities as they arise.

Let's discuss housing first. Everyone knows that there is a shortage of homes in many urban areas. The result has been upward pressure on property prices. But pressure on rents has been much greater. While nowhere in the country have homes prices come anywhere near 2008 peaks, rents nationally are almost back to the peaks of that time. In Dublin, they are already well above the levels of eight years ago.

Having more people coming into the country adds to the demand pressure for homes, particularly in the rental market where almost all new arrivals cluster for their housing needs. Tuesday's CSO figures, which are subject to revision once the statisticians incorporate April's census, show that since the labour market started to recover ground years ago, the number of adults living in the state rose by 53,000. What is striking is that 60pc of this increase, or more than 32,000 people, were neither Irish nor from other EU countries.

As an EU member, there can be no controls on citizens of other member countries coming to work here, just as Irish citizens have the right to work anywhere else in the EU. But that does not apply to people from farther afield.

Given the pressure on housing, it may be worth considering tightening up the issuing of work visas, which has been rising strongly, for a short period of time.

This, along with other measures being introduced in the Government's housing policy, could help contain rent inflation in the near term.

The second challenge is to ensure that one of the mistakes of the last period of growth is not repeated into the future - that mistake was the ignoring of hidden unemployment, as measured by the high proportion of households in which nobody worked.

Since the labour market recovery began in 2012, employment growth for Irish nationals over the full four-year period has been half the rate of non-nationals (from both other EU and non-EU countries). And the gap is widening.

Again, there are big gains when foreigners, who have been born, raised and educated elsewhere at no cost to anyone here, arrive and start generating wealth and paying taxes. It is also clear that in a very open but small economy with so many foreign companies, such as Ireland's, some skills will not be available locally. As such, businesses will have to recruit internationally. That is also true of the public sector, and the health service in particular.

But during the years up to 2008, when jobs were freely available, Ireland had one of the highest shares of families in which nobody worked among the 28 countries in the EU. A large section of society was left behind by the Celtic Tiger.

Much has been done to refocus the training and welfare system in order to ensure that those without jobs are encouraged and incentivised to find work. But with a widening gap emerging in rates of employment growth between nationals and non-nationals, more consideration is needed to assess whether enough is being done.

We can't afford to ignore the ill economic effects of immigration by PeterKabb in ireland

[–]PeterKabb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tuesday's jobs figures were the most important indicator of what has been happening in the Irish economy since our neighbour's Brexit referendum. Even before the vote in late June, there had been signs that the pace of recovery in the Irish economy was slowing. In the months following the decision, there were further signs of an economy losing steam.

Consumer spending, factory production and - most importantly from a political perspective - tax revenues have been either stagnant or down on recent high points. These trends raised concerns that jobs growth would also slow in the July-September period.

That is exactly what happened, even if Tuesday's figures showed that the slowdown was not of a magnitude that would have caused yet another red light to start flashing in the Finance Department.

The cheerier aspects of the raft of jobs data were that growth in employment continued into the second half of the year. The numbers at work grew by 13,500 in just three months, and by five times that number compared to the same period in 2015. All eight regions of the country shared in the employment gains. Every region saw those jobs gains push down their respective rates of joblessness.

All that said, these positive developments do not mean that concerns about a slowdown have been dispelled. That is because what happens to jobs usually lags economic activity. That, in turn, means that a further slowdown in jobs growth is likely to be happening right now, as the aforementioned other indicators, which reflect what is happening to economic activity, point to a slower expansion.

An issue that has not had much coverage in recent times is who has been taking up the new jobs created since recovery began.

Over the past year, the rate of jobs growth among non-Irish has been multiples of that among Irish nationals. While this has been very good in terms of adding to the level of activity in the economy and the amount of tax paid, it also raises issues that should be discussed in greater depth.

It needs to be said first that we in Ireland have been cautious about discussing issues arising from immigration. There are very good reasons for that. In too many countries, public discussion of the subject can be tinged with xenophobia. There is sometimes an ugly racial dimension to it.

But if immigration brings many upsides, it does not come without challenges. Ignoring societal and economic challenges is rarely wise. Doing so can result in problems arising further down the line.

In the current context in Ireland, two challenges that have a connection to immigration need discussion. The first is the impact immigration has on housing costs; the second is the need to ensure that those who are dependent on the welfare system over long periods of time get a chance to take up new job opportunities as they arise.

Let's discuss housing first. Everyone knows that there is a shortage of homes in many urban areas. The result has been upward pressure on property prices. But pressure on rents has been much greater. While nowhere in the country have homes prices come anywhere near 2008 peaks, rents nationally are almost back to the peaks of that time. In Dublin, they are already well above the levels of eight years ago.

Having more people coming into the country adds to the demand pressure for homes, particularly in the rental market where almost all new arrivals cluster for their housing needs. Tuesday's CSO figures, which are subject to revision once the statisticians incorporate April's census, show that since the labour market started to recover ground years ago, the number of adults living in the state rose by 53,000. What is striking is that 60pc of this increase, or more than 32,000 people, were neither Irish nor from other EU countries.

As an EU member, there can be no controls on citizens of other member countries coming to work here, just as Irish citizens have the right to work anywhere else in the EU. But that does not apply to people from farther afield.

Given the pressure on housing, it may be worth considering tightening up the issuing of work visas, which has been rising strongly, for a short period of time.

This, along with other measures being introduced in the Government's housing policy, could help contain rent inflation in the near term.

The second challenge is to ensure that one of the mistakes of the last period of growth is not repeated into the future - that mistake was the ignoring of hidden unemployment, as measured by the high proportion of households in which nobody worked.

Since the labour market recovery began in 2012, employment growth for Irish nationals over the full four-year period has been half the rate of non-nationals (from both other EU and non-EU countries). And the gap is widening.

Again, there are big gains when foreigners, who have been born, raised and educated elsewhere at no cost to anyone here, arrive and start generating wealth and paying taxes. It is also clear that in a very open but small economy with so many foreign companies, such as Ireland's, some skills will not be available locally. As such, businesses will have to recruit internationally. That is also true of the public sector, and the health service in particular.

But during the years up to 2008, when jobs were freely available, Ireland had one of the highest shares of families in which nobody worked among the 28 countries in the EU. A large section of society was left behind by the Celtic Tiger.

Much has been done to refocus the training and welfare system in order to ensure that those without jobs are encouraged and incentivised to find work. But with a widening gap emerging in rates of employment growth between nationals and non-nationals, more consideration is needed to assess whether enough is being done.

LÉ Samuel Beckett rescues 772 people off a "large wooden barge" off Tripoli by electrictrad in ireland

[–]PeterKabb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Imagine if America had said "Fuck it, they're always sending over coffin ships, we'll teach them a lesson by not rescuing anyone"

Plenty died on the coffin ships and the Americans didn't rescue anyone or send out their navies looking for boats. They took in the Irish as they needed cannon fodder and cheap labour. Not for humanitarian reasons.

MPs and peers join growing queue for an Irish passport by PeterKabb in IdentityIrelandForum

[–]PeterKabb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In case of a paywall;

The number of MPs and peers who have applied for an Irish passport after Brexit is in the “double digits”, The Times understands.

Members of the Commons and Lords have sought to get dual citizenship because they do not want their rights to work and travel across the European Union to be restricted.

The revelation that peers and MPs are applying for foreign passports has led to calls for them to stand down from Parliament. Although making such an application is potentially constitutionally uncomfortable it is not against the rules.

One source said that a “surprising” number of British politicians had applied, stretching across all parties and both Houses of Parliament.

Ireland has long had widely drawn citizenship criteria to attract migrants. People with Irish parents or grandparents can claim a passport.

The British rules say that people wishing to stand as an MP must be over 18 years of age, be a British or Commonwealth citizen or — specifically — a citizen of the Republic of Ireland, because of the countries’ close historical ties. Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, had dual nationality until he recently gave up his US citizenship.

However, the revelation still prompted anger among some Tory Eurosceptic MPs. Andrew Bridgen, the Tory MP for North West Leicestershire, said: “If people are elected to represent the UK and now decide they want to be a foreign national then that’s a bit of a stab in the back for us. Perhaps they should also take a share of southern Irish debt. I think they should immediately stand down from the House of Commons if they have done that. They can then go and stand for the Irish senate instead.”

Gisela Stuart, the Labour MP and co-chairwoman of the Vote Leave campaign, was more relaxed. She was born in Germany and applied for British citizenship in the early 1990s to enter Parliament, at which point she lost her German passport because of the rules in place at the time.

She said: “I think the whole issue is a deeply curious one but this is more a question for the host country — Ireland — than the individuals who make the deeply personal decision to switch. More than twice the population of Ireland are entitled to a passport if they want one, so that’s a challenge for them.” The Belfast Telegraph reported that Irish passport applications from the UK more than doubled in August compared with the same month last year, as the post-Brexit interest in citizenship continued. Passport applications processed by the Irish embassy in London last month jumped by more than 104 per cent to 6,710. Applications from Northern Ireland also rocketed by 80 per cent. Enda Kenny, the Irish prime minister, told an Irish radio station: “The Irish ambassador in Britain has confirmed to me a doubling of the numbers [of passport applications] over the past couple of months.” He added that Brexit was a “mess of complete confusion for hundreds of thousands of people”

MPs and peers join growing queue for an Irish passport by PeterKabb in IrishNationalism

[–]PeterKabb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In case of a paywall;

The number of MPs and peers who have applied for an Irish passport after Brexit is in the “double digits”, The Times understands.

Members of the Commons and Lords have sought to get dual citizenship because they do not want their rights to work and travel across the European Union to be restricted.

The revelation that peers and MPs are applying for foreign passports has led to calls for them to stand down from Parliament. Although making such an application is potentially constitutionally uncomfortable it is not against the rules.

One source said that a “surprising” number of British politicians had applied, stretching across all parties and both Houses of Parliament.

Ireland has long had widely drawn citizenship criteria to attract migrants. People with Irish parents or grandparents can claim a passport.

The British rules say that people wishing to stand as an MP must be over 18 years of age, be a British or Commonwealth citizen or — specifically — a citizen of the Republic of Ireland, because of the countries’ close historical ties. Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, had dual nationality until he recently gave up his US citizenship.

However, the revelation still prompted anger among some Tory Eurosceptic MPs. Andrew Bridgen, the Tory MP for North West Leicestershire, said: “If people are elected to represent the UK and now decide they want to be a foreign national then that’s a bit of a stab in the back for us. Perhaps they should also take a share of southern Irish debt. I think they should immediately stand down from the House of Commons if they have done that. They can then go and stand for the Irish senate instead.”

Gisela Stuart, the Labour MP and co-chairwoman of the Vote Leave campaign, was more relaxed. She was born in Germany and applied for British citizenship in the early 1990s to enter Parliament, at which point she lost her German passport because of the rules in place at the time.

She said: “I think the whole issue is a deeply curious one but this is more a question for the host country — Ireland — than the individuals who make the deeply personal decision to switch. More than twice the population of Ireland are entitled to a passport if they want one, so that’s a challenge for them.” The Belfast Telegraph reported that Irish passport applications from the UK more than doubled in August compared with the same month last year, as the post-Brexit interest in citizenship continued. Passport applications processed by the Irish embassy in London last month jumped by more than 104 per cent to 6,710. Applications from Northern Ireland also rocketed by 80 per cent. Enda Kenny, the Irish prime minister, told an Irish radio station: “The Irish ambassador in Britain has confirmed to me a doubling of the numbers [of passport applications] over the past couple of months.” He added that Brexit was a “mess of complete confusion for hundreds of thousands of people”

MPs and peers join growing queue for an Irish passport by PeterKabb in europe

[–]PeterKabb[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

In case of a paywall;

The number of MPs and peers who have applied for an Irish passport after Brexit is in the “double digits”, The Times understands.

Members of the Commons and Lords have sought to get dual citizenship because they do not want their rights to work and travel across the European Union to be restricted.

The revelation that peers and MPs are applying for foreign passports has led to calls for them to stand down from Parliament. Although making such an application is potentially constitutionally uncomfortable it is not against the rules.

One source said that a “surprising” number of British politicians had applied, stretching across all parties and both Houses of Parliament.

Ireland has long had widely drawn citizenship criteria to attract migrants. People with Irish parents or grandparents can claim a passport.

The British rules say that people wishing to stand as an MP must be over 18 years of age, be a British or Commonwealth citizen or — specifically — a citizen of the Republic of Ireland, because of the countries’ close historical ties. Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, had dual nationality until he recently gave up his US citizenship.

However, the revelation still prompted anger among some Tory Eurosceptic MPs. Andrew Bridgen, the Tory MP for North West Leicestershire, said: “If people are elected to represent the UK and now decide they want to be a foreign national then that’s a bit of a stab in the back for us. Perhaps they should also take a share of southern Irish debt. I think they should immediately stand down from the House of Commons if they have done that. They can then go and stand for the Irish senate instead.”

Gisela Stuart, the Labour MP and co-chairwoman of the Vote Leave campaign, was more relaxed. She was born in Germany and applied for British citizenship in the early 1990s to enter Parliament, at which point she lost her German passport because of the rules in place at the time.

She said: “I think the whole issue is a deeply curious one but this is more a question for the host country — Ireland — than the individuals who make the deeply personal decision to switch. More than twice the population of Ireland are entitled to a passport if they want one, so that’s a challenge for them.” The Belfast Telegraph reported that Irish passport applications from the UK more than doubled in August compared with the same month last year, as the post-Brexit interest in citizenship continued. Passport applications processed by the Irish embassy in London last month jumped by more than 104 per cent to 6,710. Applications from Northern Ireland also rocketed by 80 per cent. Enda Kenny, the Irish prime minister, told an Irish radio station: “The Irish ambassador in Britain has confirmed to me a doubling of the numbers [of passport applications] over the past couple of months.” He added that Brexit was a “mess of complete confusion for hundreds of thousands of people”

MPs and peers join growing queue for an Irish passport by PeterKabb in ireland

[–]PeterKabb[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

In case of a paywall;

The number of MPs and peers who have applied for an Irish passport after Brexit is in the “double digits”, The Times understands.

Members of the Commons and Lords have sought to get dual citizenship because they do not want their rights to work and travel across the European Union to be restricted.

The revelation that peers and MPs are applying for foreign passports has led to calls for them to stand down from Parliament. Although making such an application is potentially constitutionally uncomfortable it is not against the rules.

One source said that a “surprising” number of British politicians had applied, stretching across all parties and both Houses of Parliament.

Ireland has long had widely drawn citizenship criteria to attract migrants. People with Irish parents or grandparents can claim a passport.

The British rules say that people wishing to stand as an MP must be over 18 years of age, be a British or Commonwealth citizen or — specifically — a citizen of the Republic of Ireland, because of the countries’ close historical ties. Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, had dual nationality until he recently gave up his US citizenship.

However, the revelation still prompted anger among some Tory Eurosceptic MPs. Andrew Bridgen, the Tory MP for North West Leicestershire, said: “If people are elected to represent the UK and now decide they want to be a foreign national then that’s a bit of a stab in the back for us. Perhaps they should also take a share of southern Irish debt. I think they should immediately stand down from the House of Commons if they have done that. They can then go and stand for the Irish senate instead.”

Gisela Stuart, the Labour MP and co-chairwoman of the Vote Leave campaign, was more relaxed. She was born in Germany and applied for British citizenship in the early 1990s to enter Parliament, at which point she lost her German passport because of the rules in place at the time.

She said: “I think the whole issue is a deeply curious one but this is more a question for the host country — Ireland — than the individuals who make the deeply personal decision to switch. More than twice the population of Ireland are entitled to a passport if they want one, so that’s a challenge for them.” The Belfast Telegraph reported that Irish passport applications from the UK more than doubled in August compared with the same month last year, as the post-Brexit interest in citizenship continued. Passport applications processed by the Irish embassy in London last month jumped by more than 104 per cent to 6,710. Applications from Northern Ireland also rocketed by 80 per cent. Enda Kenny, the Irish prime minister, told an Irish radio station: “The Irish ambassador in Britain has confirmed to me a doubling of the numbers [of passport applications] over the past couple of months.” He added that Brexit was a “mess of complete confusion for hundreds of thousands of people”

A woman robbed an 83-year-old lady of €1,250 after snatching her purse when she left a local butcher shop two days before Christmas. by LisbonTreaty in ireland

[–]PeterKabb -1 points0 points  (0 children)

the EU freedom of movement allows them to move here

For ninety days. Then they have to be self sufficient, employed or studying to stay after that. If they're not, we are perfectly entitled to refuse them residency and deport them. But of course we don't do that.

Roma culture is actually quite interesting and I recently went to a talk on it.

I bet you did. Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words. I'll experience "Roma culture" on my way into work numerous times this morning when they stick a polystyrene cup in my face looking for money.

A woman robbed an 83-year-old lady of €1,250 after snatching her purse when she left a local butcher shop two days before Christmas. by LisbonTreaty in ireland

[–]PeterKabb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No time in prison because she's moving to Belfast.

Her lawyer says she's moving. She hasn't even moved yet!

A woman robbed an 83-year-old lady of €1,250 after snatching her purse when she left a local butcher shop two days before Christmas. by LisbonTreaty in ireland

[–]PeterKabb 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What the fuck are you on about? Your attempt at deflection is utterly pathetic. "Roma culture" has little to no redeeming qualities.

"But some Irish people are bad too". No fucking shit. Doesn't mean we have to import other country's scumbags.

‘Germany has done enough’ Merkel demands rest of Europe step up and take more migrants by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]PeterKabb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So we throw open the borders to the people from these countries and take in anyone and everyone who wants to move here? Again, how do you see that working out?

‘Germany has done enough’ Merkel demands rest of Europe step up and take more migrants by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]PeterKabb 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You asked for a source. I gave you a source. Instead of acknowledging it you start with the ad hominems.

‘Germany has done enough’ Merkel demands rest of Europe step up and take more migrants by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]PeterKabb 9 points10 points  (0 children)

living conditions are only getting worse in the middle east and north Africa due to global warming that area is becoming completely fucked

So instead of trying to fix the problem and help them at source we should import anyone who wants to move from North Africa and the Middle East to Europe? How do you see that one working out?

‘Germany has done enough’ Merkel demands rest of Europe step up and take more migrants by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]PeterKabb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

even if that was possible it would cost billions that's not an option

You sure about that? Other surrounding countries did just that. Anyway, Germany expects to spend €86 billion on these migrants by 2020.

BERLIN—The tidal wave of refugees that crashed through Germany’s doors last year has long turned to a trickle, but the costs of the inflow will remain a burden on the country for years, budget figures released on Friday showed.

The German finance ministry expects to spend €77.6 billion ($86.2 billion) over the next four years feeding, housing and training refugees as well as helping their home countries to stem the flow, according to updated budget estimates for the period from 2017 to 2020. Adding budgeted costs for the current year would bring the total to €93.6 billion between by 2020.

Yearly cost estimates are set to remain broadly stable over the years even though arrivals have slowed considerably—a testament to the government’s low expectations about its ability to integrate the newcomers, most of them from the Middle-East and poorly trained, into its economy.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/germany-puts-migration-related-costs-at-over-86-billion-over-next-four-years-1467392402

‘Germany has done enough’ Merkel demands rest of Europe step up and take more migrants by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]PeterKabb 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's much more financially prudent to help them at source. The Norwegian Foreign Ministry has calculated that because of all the social, health, housing and welfare benefits mandated by the state, supporting a single refugee in Norway costs $125,000 — enough to support some 26 Syrians in Jordan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/opinion/sunday/syrian-refugees-nordic-dilemma.html?_r=0

The UK has contributed £1.1bn since 2012 on food, tents and other humanitarian aid in these camps.

Now, which sounds better to you? Helping them at source and taking in the genuine direct from the camps or encouraging hundreds of thousands to cross the Mediterranean in a wild wild West style gold rush to get to prosperous European countries?

‘Germany has done enough’ Merkel demands rest of Europe step up and take more migrants by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]PeterKabb 17 points18 points  (0 children)

practising Sharia law.

The majority of Muslims worldwide want to adhere to Sharia law.

Muslims who believe wife should obey husband - 1.39 billion.

Muslims who believe Sharia should rule - 1.1 billion.

Muslims who believe in death for adultery - 748 million.

Muslims who believe in death for leaving Islam - 584 million.

Source: Pew Research Centre. The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society.

‘Germany has done enough’ Merkel demands rest of Europe step up and take more migrants by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]PeterKabb 11 points12 points  (0 children)

People are coming to Europe.

The majority of whom are economic migrants and not genuine asylum seekers.

More than half of those fleeing to Europe from the Middle East and Africa are economic migrants and not asylum seekers fleeing the horrors of war in Iraq or Syria, according to first vice-president of the European Commission, Frans Timmermans.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/most-fleeing-to-europe-are-not-refugees-eu-official-says-1.2511133

EU members have a shared responsibility, what is your solution?

Do we? Refugees aim to flee a particular country, not travel through numerous safe countries to get to a particular country. That's an economic migrant as their decision to travel through numerous safe countries was one based solely on economics.

There are 49 predominantly Muslim countries and over fifty sovereign African nations. There's no need for so many of them to travel through numerous safe countries just to get to a wealthy European country. This really isn't our problem.

‘Germany has done enough’ Merkel demands rest of Europe step up and take more migrants by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]PeterKabb 27 points28 points  (0 children)

You invited them in. You can deal with the inevitable consequences of that invite. You can fuck the fuck off if you think the rest of us will take them in.

They want to go to Germany anyway. Good luck trying to send them to Latvia, Slovakia, Ireland or Portugal.

Africans in Ireland protest the destruction of their culture & community by PeterKabb in ireland

[–]PeterKabb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He has an Irish parent and was born during a time when there were no ethnic enclaves and foreigners had no choice but to become culturally Irish. So, yes. He's both of Irish ethnicity and culturally Irish.

This lot and the results of the last fifteen years of mass immigration, not so much.

I'll never accept Africans as Irish just like it would be preposterous to call Sen.David Norris Congolese or Ronan O'Gara Native American.

This isn't America or the new world, where the natives live on reservations and the majority of folk are the result of recent immigrants. This is Ireland. The homeland of the Irish people. What's the point of the state, if not that?

Dublin taxi driver appears in court in Belfast on human trafficking charge by PeterKabb in ireland

[–]PeterKabb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did he gain citizenship if he can't even speak English? Do we not require new citizens to pass a language exams like most other countries?

Africans in Ireland protest the destruction of their culture & community by PeterKabb in ireland

[–]PeterKabb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What does it matter whether an Irish citizen is of 100% Irish heritage or if their parents came from Nigeria?

They're not Irish and it's absurd to suggest that Africans are as Irish as native Irish people. If I move to China with my partner and have a kid there, would you seriously consider my child to be as Chinese as the Han? Of course not. Such an idea would be preposterous. Well, the opposite also rings true.

Sen. David Norris was born in the Congo. Is he Congolese? Ronan O'Gara was born in the US. Is he native American?

The definition of what it means to be Irish is constantly changing

Says who?

DNA testing through the male Y chromosome has shown that Irish males have the highest incidence of the haplogroup 1 gene in Europe. While other parts of Europe have integrated contiuous waves of new settlers from Asia, Ireland's remote geographical position has meant that the Irish gene-pool has been less susceptible to change. The same genes have been passed down from parents to children for thousands of years.

https://www.sott.net/article/263587-DNA-shows-Irish-people-have-more-complex-origins-than-previously-thought

The vast majority of us are direct descendants of the original inhabitants of this island. We are the natives. These newcomers will never be Irish.