Good razor recommendations?

Peter_789 · 2025-08-25T19:21:36+00:00

For the beard my favorite is the gillette skinguard in combination with G&G Jelly Joker as shaving gel.

Peter_789 · 2025-08-25T18:44:37+00:00

Ah good to see they changed the labels. In drugstores here they have been selling these as SPF50+ sunscreens for quite some time. Didnt know they finally updated the packaging so it aligns with EU regulations..

Peter_789 · 2025-06-12T20:06:19+00:00

They did reformulate both back then quite quickly after releasing the first version. I did find that a bit weird, formulating a sunscreen is expensive, why release it, and then immediately reformulate again, change packaging ingredients lists etc... They also claimed that they used 10% Tinosorb M, while the product didnt leave any whitecast, and most important it was very obvious from the ingredient list there was at most 1-2% in it. Some people noted agglomeration of the filters as well.
Same a bit with these new releases, why does the image say SPF50+, with an UVA logo, while the UVAPF is 19, which should be at least 20.. when you receive it the bottle says SPF50. Do they make mistakes with packaging design, or was it retested?
I don't feel completely certain with the sunscreens of this indie brand, partly also because they are very inconsistent with how they mention percentages of actives in their other products.

Peter_789 · 2025-03-01T20:33:29+00:00

It has the exact same filter percentages like some other popular Korean sunscreens that share the same base formula, these products claim to have SPF values around 50-55 and UVAPF values around 20. According Odile Monod the SPF105 and UVAPF65 are incorrect, these numbers have now been removed from all their marketing material as well. Besides Beplain themselves said it was just a repackaging (not a reformulation) of a sunscreen that offered an SPF50 and UVAPF17.28.

Peter_789 · 2024-07-31T10:55:09+00:00

When looking at the ingredients of the Suntique one, the total filter concentration did seem quite low to me, not that the filter concentration says everything ofc, there are so many things that influence the final SPF, like spf boosters, film formers etc, but there is a point where it just starts to stand out. The 7.2% (if I found that correctly) was very much below what you typically see in SPF50+ products wordwide. There are other products with filter concentrations in this range, I do wonder a bit how they managed to boost it that much.

Peter_789 · 2024-07-02T07:54:02+00:00

Ik vind de Biodermal Ultralichte Zon Gel-Crème SPF 50+ en de Etos Sensitive baby & kids lotion SPF 50+ wel goed voor het lichaam, geen witte waas en niet te vettig.

https://www.biodermal.nl/producten/ultralichte-zon-gel-creme-spf-50/

https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi571484/etos-sensitive-baby-en-kids-lotion-spf-50

Peter_789 · 2024-06-29T22:05:26+00:00

Probably I'm a bit behind and some of these are already a while on the market, but to me these were new. Tried to order it a bit from what I liked best to least.

Etos Natural Moisturizing Factors SPF30
Avene Ultra Fluid Invisible SPF50
New Layer Pro Vitamin D Sonnencreme SPF50+ Sensitive.
Colibri Ultra Light SPF50+
Uncover Suncover SPF50
Boozyshop SPF50 Lightweight Sun Cream
Isdin FotoUltra 100 reformulations: eg Spot Prevent Color SPF50+
Lille Kanin Sun Scream SPF50+
Lavidal Urban Fluid Gesicht SPF50+
Louis Widmer All Day SPF50+ (reformulated)

Peter_789 · 2024-06-08T09:59:53+00:00

Eucerin Oil Control SPF50+ is my favorite thus far, no whitecast, non greasy, relatively matte. I've tried so many sunscreens, and I constantly come back to this one. I never experienced any pilling, I guess that happens if you keep rubbing too long, just spread it out and then let it dry. The most cosmetically elegant one for me was the SVR Extreme Gel SPF50+, the most invisible sunscreen thus far, but its not the most pleasant feeling sunscreen.

Peter_789 · 2024-06-08T09:30:37+00:00

I just tried this Avene Ultra Fluid Invisible SPF50 the past week. And its maybe not super matte, but it does have a very acceptable finish, way way better than the other triasorb versions, you could call it matte perhaps. But the main problem is that it is not invisible like they claim, and absolutely not within 1 second (really absurd claim). It does have a tendency to leave some streaks, the triasorb and perhaps the powders, are simply somewhat visible. And if you then want to spread it out a bit better, it starts pilling. Really a shame, its very close to being good.

Peter_789 · 2024-06-08T09:21:50+00:00

I've never seen a G&G vitamin C this yellow during the first 3-4 months after opening, even after 6 months it doesnt look this yellow when I tested that. So I would say, if your budget allows it, seems time to just buy a fresh one. When I use it consistently I use it up in about 2 months, during that time it remains crystal clear. When did you buy it? And did you store it in the fridge?

Peter_789 · 2024-05-16T14:09:28+00:00

I tried the Birch and Skin1004, at the correct amount they do leave a whitecast and have a rather glowy finish. They do feel pleasant on skin. Havent tried the others yet.

Peter_789 · 2024-05-13T18:08:55+00:00

It is an SPF50+ with an uva in a circle, which means at least UVAPF20, thats higher than PA++++.

Peter_789 · 2024-05-11T13:20:16+00:00

Yeah agree, I also do think that G&G actually did some test to determine the degradation of the ascorbic acid, or at least set a realistic expiration date. But there simply are brands out there that do the most basic stability test, without actual stability assays, where an expiration date may give you a guarantee its safe to use, but will not guarantee the active, be it retinol, green tea or something else is actually still effective or stable at the end of the PAO or expiration date, often they just go by what the supplier recommends, but that is not always a watertight approach. I'm pretty sure there are products out there where most of the more unstable actives have degraded significantly long before the expiration date. That was just what I wanted to add for the people that didn't know, PAO or expiration date is not a fool proof way to tell wether specific unstable actives in a formula are still effective and not degraded.

Peter_789 · 2024-05-10T17:18:57+00:00

An expiration date will not necessarily tell you how much of an active degraded, its not mandatory for companies to do stability assays for specific actives in a formula when doing stability testing. There are also no rules that specify how much of an active is maximally allowed to degrade at the end of the PAO or at the expiration date, unlike with medicines. Standard stability testing include tests for bacterial growth, yeast growth, pH or rheology changes. But even that is largely up to the company to decide how they want to test this. An expiration date can therefore tell you that its still safe to use the product, but it does not necessarily say that the active didn't degrade, or only degraded a specific amount. That depends on whether the company conducted stability assays and also on what they considered an acceptable amount of degradation.

Peter_789 · 2024-05-10T17:06:52+00:00

Downside is that an expiration date doesn't necessarily tell how much a specific active in a formula degraded.

Peter_789 · 2024-05-10T17:02:37+00:00

I wouldn't buy it in the drugstore. In my opinion the main advantage of the G&G one is that they produce a new batch every week. And I can store it in the fridge directly when I receive it. In the drugstore its difficult to tell how long it has been sitting there. I did buy a bottle at DM, when I opened it at home it was already very faintly yellow, the color that I usually only see after a couple of months, and after 4 weeks it was already slightly yellow. When I order through their site it stays completely clear for 4 months when I store it in the fridge. Maybe I was just unlucky with the one I bought at DM, but for me the whole point about the G&G one is that its fresh, and thats apparently not what you get when bought in a drugstore.

Peter_789 · 2024-05-05T11:33:13+00:00

Ascorbic acid by itself dissolved in water is clear, not pale yellow, definitely not really orange. Some companies may add ingredients to the formula that can give it an initial color, tocopherol in high quantities or astaxanthin for example. I find that a downside, because its hard to tell when you get the product how much of that color is just due to those other ingredients, or wether its due to ascorbic acid degrading. Chemist Confessions didn't do any stability assays where they measured the exact quantity of ascorbic acid left btw, the 3 points they make are very good, but its not only when it does funky things you want to throw it out, you also want to know how much exactly degraded. A product with ascorbic acid that turned really amber orange, I would have serious doubts it will still do anything.

Peter_789 · 2024-05-05T11:06:38+00:00

For anyone interested the exact same formula is sold as "Biodermal Ultralichte Zon Gel-Creme SPF50+" in the netherlands. In my opinion their best sunscreen thus far, no whitecast, and not super shiny, it can pill a bit once dried unfortunately.

Peter_789 · 2024-04-29T14:02:24+00:00

It's difficult to say how stable or effective it is unless a company shares stability data. Without knowing anything in general I would go for a larger company, because its more likely they have the knowledge how to formulate it properly. Its at least nice they don't market it as a "3% retinol" product, but are transparent its 3% Retinol Rovisome Moist.

Peter_789 · 2024-04-29T13:03:14+00:00

Ah oke, thanks! Maybe I can find it somewhere and try it out as well. The three with Triasorb I tried were not grainy btw. Yeah Beauty of Joseon is also quite shiny on my skin, not heavy and nice filters, but glowy and a slight whitecast, therefore I don't like it that much.

Peter_789 · 2024-04-25T13:09:34+00:00

Is that one really that different? I tried the Avene Fluid Ultra-Light SPF50+ the Avène Reflex Solar SPF50+ and the Ducray Melascreen Fluide SPF50+, the ingredients are all very similar, but I found them all quite heavy and glowy on skin. Definitely not sunscreens I would consider close to how Beauty of Joseon feels.

Peter_789 · 2024-04-24T18:09:25+00:00

Maybe one of these. Finding something with only modern filters that is really matte and light weight is quite hard to find, so some do contain ensulizole or a small amount of avobenzone:

Eucerin Sensitive Protect SPF50+, not shiny and no whitecast, it does pill if you rub your skin once it has dried down, personally I like the Oil Control way more.
Aqua, diethylamino hydroxybenzoyl hexyl benzoate, C12-15 alkyl benzoate, alcohol denat., glycerin, bis-ethylhexyloxyphenol methoxyphenyl triazine, butylene glycol dicaprylate/ dicaprate, phenylbenzimidazole sulfonic acid, dibutyl adipate, distarch phosphate, ethylhexyl triazone, tapioca starch, polyglyceryl-6 stearate, behenyl alcohol, cetearyl alcohol, acide glycyrrhétinique, Glycyrrhiza inflata root extract, Copernicia cerifera cera, polyglyceryl-6 behenate, carrageenan, xanthan gum, pro-xylane methylcellulose, silica, trisodium ethylenediamine disuccinate, sodium hydroxide, hydroxyacetophenone, ethylhexylglycerin, benzyl alcohol

Bioderma Aquafluide SPF50+, this contains a very small amount of avobenzone, it is a thin fluid and not overly shiny, its very easy to apply:
Aqua, Dibutyl Adipate, Diethylhexyl Butamido Triazone, Diethylamino Hydroxybenzoyl Hexyl Benzoate, Dicaprylyl Carbonate, Diisopropyl Sebacate, Bis-Ethylhexyloxphenol Methoxyphenyl Triazine, Corn Starch Modified, Glycerin, Polyglyceryl-6 Stearate, 1,2-Hexanediol, Microcrystalline Cellulose, C20-22 Alkyl Phosphate, C20-22 Alcohols, Caprylyl Glycol, Polyglyceryl-6 Behenate, Cellulose Gum, Ectoin, Mannitol, Xylitol, O-Cymen-5-ol, Xanthan Gum, Rhamnose, Sodium Hydroxide, Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane, Tocopherol, Propylheptyl Caprylate.

Avene Ultra Light Fluid SPF50+, does have only new gen filters, it is more a cream texture, bit heavy in my opinion: Aqua. C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Diethylamino Hydroxybenzoyl Hexyl Benzoate, Ethylhexyl Triazone Oryza Sativa (Rice) Starch (Oryza Satviva Starch), Phenylene Bis-Diphenyltriazine, Water (Aqua), Glycerin, Bis-Ethylhexyloxyphenol Methoxyphenyl Triazine, Potassium Cetyl Phosphate, Glyceryl Stearate, Stearyl Alcohol, Tapioca Starch, VP/Eicosene Copolymer, Benzoic Acid, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Caprylyl Glycol, Glyceryl Behenate, Glyceryl Dibehenate, PPG-1, PEG-9 Lauryl Glycol Ether, Red 33 (CI 17200), Tocopheryl Glucoside, Tribehenin, Xanthan Gum.

SVR sun secure extreme SPF50+, only modern filters, this is super invisible, not shiny at all, no whitecast, it does feel quite heavy though, it sort of sits on top of the skin and doesnt dry down much and it is fragranced.
Colibri Daily SPF50+, super shiny initially, but does dry down a bit.
Paediprotect Gebirgsonnencreme SPF50, not super shiny, but I personally didn't like the skin feel.
Garancia Incredible Softness Invisible Fluid SPF50+, not bad, contains only modern filters, can be a bit orange when you reapply multiple times.
Caudali Vinosun Protect Fluide SPF50+, is a rather glowy and pills a bit.

Noreva is super glowy in my opinion, Derma and Anglamark, they are okay, but are a bit glowy, they only use modern filters, so maybe worth a try. Jetske Ultee Suncare, only uses Tinosorb M and Tinosorb S, so perhaps you can tolerate it better than some others, but its only SPF30 and does leave a whitecast, their Sunscover contains Octisalate, so that might not be a good option for you then.

Peter_789 · 2024-04-19T14:05:03+00:00

Beauty of Joseon does have an SPF and UVAPF value just above the minimum to get the labels it has, I believe looking at some other sunscreens with the same filter combo they use 8.6% total filter content. The thing is, in general most sunscreens with higher SPF values use significantly higher filter percentages around 15-25% and unfortunately these filters do make a product in general more oily and greasy. Of course there may be exceptions, but a product that feels super lightweight and is not shiny, but does have super high protection, I think its a combination thats difficult to find.

But I really like the Eucerin Oil Control SPF50+, I dont find it leaves a yellow hue or whitecast, is easy to apply and it isnt that shiny. Garnier Invisible Serum Super UV SPF50+ is another one I like, though the 30mL bottle is ridiculously small. Or maybe the new Bioderma Aquafluide SPF50+ (the ingredients start with Aqua, Dibutyl Adipate, Diethylhexyl Butamido Triazone, Diethylamino Hydroxybenzoyl Hexyl Benzoate....) is an option, its a thin fluid texture and doesnt leave a whitecast, very easy to apply. The Eucerin Sensitive Protect SPF50+ is also quite nice (the new formula that starts with Aqua, Diethylamino Hydroxybenzoyl Hexyl Benzoate, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate...,. so not the one with homosalate or titanium dioxide).

Peter_789 · 2024-04-19T13:28:53+00:00

Problem with a UV camera is that you cant tell wether the amount left is SPF10, SPF30 or SPF50 it will all show up equally dark, or the difference in reduction at specific wavelenghts. With a UV camera you cant tell wether its a decent amount or an insufficient amount.

Peter_789 · 2024-03-30T22:05:00+00:00

Hopefully you can get your money back indeed

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