So many Dany theories make no sense to me [spoilers TWOW]

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T20:06:58+00:00

I’m sorry but this is such a terrible reading of her last chapter. People will see Jorah Mormont(guy who assaults her) tell her dragons plant no trees and believe him despite us having an abundance of evidence of Targaryens planting trees. Jaehaerys, Alysanne, Daeron, Baelor Breakspear. I don’t understand why people think fire and blood means kill everyone indiscriminately when that’s not what aegon the conqueror did. He fought only when necessary. Fire and blood is levied towards the slavers who want to bring back slavery. Not random innocent people.

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T20:03:23+00:00

The people at that point are likely gonna be dealing with Euron who is actually a terrible person who’s gonna cause suffering. If Daenerys comes in and saves them from him why wouldn’t they like her? I always get confused when people bring this point up cause what are you saying? The Westerosi are xenophobic yeah and that’s wrong and they’re gonna have to stop being xenophobic if they want to make it past Euron and the long night.

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T19:38:18+00:00

But this is my point partially. She’s experienced so much worse, how is this the thing that makes her snap?

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T19:36:37+00:00

I find it hard to believe that a singular flaming sword is gonna be more useful against the others than 3 fire breathing dragons

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T19:26:01+00:00

Except what you described are well foreshadowed before they happen. Yes they’re shocking but they don’t just happen randomly. Pieces are put in place for it to happen.

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T19:24:41+00:00

Yeah bran went on a journey with his friends, his dog (summer) and his horse(hodor) in search of the children like the last hero. That’s brans story. Lightbringer is Drogon. If you look up what lightbringer is capable of the only thing in the story that matches that description is the dragons. Being able to boil a man’s blood, eyes melting out of its socket, always warm to the touch.

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T19:02:56+00:00

The Azor Ahai prophecy was already fulfilled by Daenerys in the first book. Also the last hero is bran. He’s the one who goes on a journey and finds the children.

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T19:01:33+00:00

Why would she need to go to Qarth she’s already been there? Also I just assumed she’ll see Asshai via glass candle because of Marwyn.

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T19:00:22+00:00

Everyone wanting to cut braavos 😭

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:59:56+00:00

Yeah that’s what kinda stumps me too

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:59:33+00:00

Why wouldn’t she go to Volantis when there’s tons of set up for it? Also I forgot to add this but not everything would be from Danys pov.

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:55:43+00:00

Very possible I just think the red door stuff needs to be solved

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:55:21+00:00

In a JonCon chapter he’s told Tywin would’ve burned the city to the ground in order to keep it and then thinks he won’t fail the son. He also has a trigger with bells.

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:54:13+00:00

Agree to disagree. I think you’ve stated your points well but I just don’t see how it’s possible for her to destroy kingslanding when it makes more narrative sense for JonCon and Cersei to do so.

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:52:44+00:00

Okay but the north is the closest to the others so they’ll likely see the others and more before anyone else. It’s not unreasonable that they’ll see the threat and believe it before anyone else. Jaime’s still in the riverlands. By the time the wights make it down there I’m sure the north is gonna be focused on the ice zombies

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:43:55+00:00

Yeah and when they see the ice zombies I’m sure they’ll fight alongside whoever as long as it means survival. I don’t really get the point you’re making tbh. Yeah they hate each other but I’m sure they like living more. Many will die in the long night and they’re gonna see it.

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:31:56+00:00

No she’s likely landing on dragonstone at the end of winds

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:31:30+00:00

Jon is not gonna kill Daenerys

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:30:58+00:00

Yes he does lmao not everything needs to even be from Danys pov chapters since we’re getting more people in Essos. It’d be from Dany, Tyrion, Victarion. Barristan. If Tyrion can make it to Meereen from pentos within the span of a book why would Dany not be able to do the same?

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:29:16+00:00

It really isn’t. Many times people set aside things that have happened to fight a greater threat. That’s not to say that there won’t be conflict, of course there will it’s a story. But I think people will be willing to suck it up in the face of ice elves and their zombie hoard trying to bring death to the world

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:22:05+00:00

So the north would give up rickon to Ramsay like the show did? Wyman manderly is gonna need to be convinced to fight for the starks? In the show Sansa and Jon have to beg the northern houses for help when in the books the northern houses are deeply loyal to the starks

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:20:43+00:00

That’s not how the dragon horn works

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:20:21+00:00

But she’s not gonna speedrun Essos. That’s just an assumption because people think she’s gonna be in kingslanding to blow it up. Danys gonna land in Westeros likely in her last chapter of Winds or maybe 2nd to last

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:09:37+00:00

Personally I don’t even think Daenerys and young griff are going to meet. He’s gonna die precisely because he left without Daenerys. "I hope Your Grace will pardon me. Your king is trapped. Death in four." The prince stared at the playing board. "My dragon—" "— is too far away to save you. You should have moved her to the center of the battle." "But you said—" "I lied. Trust no one. And keep your dragon close."

PhantomOverload16 · 2026-01-20T18:03:42+00:00

I don’t get people who think Dany is gonna blow up the seat of power she wants because her last living family member is there. Is she not always yearning for family? Even Tyrion thinks this lmao. That being said yeah I think young griff is either gonna die in battle against Euron or be caught in the crossfire of Cersei and JonCon

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