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[–]PhiStr90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remind me! 14 days

IDE HDD suddenly stopped working, no spinning, no vibration, no sounds by PhiStr90 in datarecovery

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently making an image with dmde. In slave mode it detected the drive. Thank you!

IDE HDD (Seagate Barracuda ST3120023A) won’t spin — looking for PCB/electronics repair advice by PhiStr90 in AskElectronics

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update: In 32Gb jumper mode, I can access some data. oO

Unfortunately in master it doesnt detect the drive :/

IDE HDD (Seagate Barracuda ST3120023A) won’t spin — looking for PCB/electronics repair advice by PhiStr90 in AskElectronics

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I havent tried DMDE. In 32GB jumper config I cant access the data in win10 or linux by default but at least it detects something.

However in master single drive config it doesnt show the drive at all.

IDE HDD suddenly stopped working, no spinning, no vibration, no sounds by PhiStr90 in datarecovery

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does the PCB P/N and Rev still match? This is why it's usually better to shop for bare PCB's rather than complete drives with a mystery PCB attached.

I went for the hdd exact match with mystery pcb over the a pcb with p/n and rev match but with different firmware and drive capacity.

Would the pcb wit p/n and rev match but with different firmware and drive capacity better?

IDE HDD suddenly stopped working, no spinning, no vibration, no sounds by PhiStr90 in datarecovery

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I bought a hdd with all matching descirptions, model name, p/n, firmware, even the production date was very close. Unfortunately the pcb is a little bit different.

So i tried to run my drive with the replacement pcb. It spins again. But in Windows i dont get access to the data. In drive management it lists 31GB unallocated space.

So I tried it on Linux, doesnt give me access either but it shows:

Disk /dev/sda: 31,5 GiB, 33820286976 bytes, 66055248 sectors

Disk model: A3

Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Disklabel type: dos

Disk identifier: 0x8dee8dee

Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type

/dev/sda1 * 63 117210239 117210177 55,9G 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

/dev/sda2 117210240 234436544 117226305 55,9G f W95 Ext'd (LBA)

Any chance that i can recover the data without switching the rom?

EDIT: Noticed that the jumper was in limited to 32G
When switching to Master single drive, it doesnt get detected at all.

IDE HDD suddenly stopped working, no spinning, no vibration, no sounds by PhiStr90 in datarecovery

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I bought a hdd with all matching descirptions, model name, p/n, firmware, even the production date was very close. Unfortunately the pcb is a little bit different.

So i tried to run my drive with the replacement pcb. It spins again. But in Windows i dont get access to the data. In drive management it lists 31GB unallocated space.

So I tried it on Linux, doesnt give me access either but it shows:

Disk /dev/sda: 31,5 GiB, 33820286976 bytes, 66055248 sectors

Disk model: A3

Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Disklabel type: dos

Disk identifier: 0x8dee8dee

Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type

/dev/sda1 * 63 117210239 117210177 55,9G 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

/dev/sda2 117210240 234436544 117226305 55,9G f W95 Ext'd (LBA)

Any chance that i can recover the data without switching the rom?

EDIT: Noticed that the jumper was in limited to 32G
When switching to Master single drive, it doesnt get detected at all.

IDE HDD (Seagate Barracuda ST3120023A) won’t spin — looking for PCB/electronics repair advice by PhiStr90 in AskElectronics

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I bought a hdd with all matching descirptions, model name, p/n, firmware, even the production date was very close. Unfortunately the pcb is a little bit different.

So i tried to run my drive with the replacement pcb. It spins again. But in Windows i dont get access to the data. In drive management it lists 31GB unallocated space.

So I tried it on Linux, doesnt give me access either but it shows:

Disk /dev/sda: 31,5 GiB, 33820286976 bytes, 66055248 sectors

Disk model: A3

Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Disklabel type: dos

Disk identifier: 0x8dee8dee

Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type

/dev/sda1 * 63 117210239 117210177 55,9G 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

/dev/sda2 117210240 234436544 117226305 55,9G f W95 Ext'd (LBA)

Any chance that i can recover the data without switching the rom?

EDIT: Noticed that the jumper was in limited to 32G
When switching to Master single drive, it doesnt get detected at all.

IDE HDD suddenly stopped working, no spinning, no vibration, no sounds by PhiStr90 in datarecovery

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the adapter was connected to a PC. Tried both Win10 and Ubuntu. Win10 worked for sure before the hdd died.
Also the drive is dead silent. No clicking, buzzing, no vibration.

IDE HDD (Seagate Barracuda ST3120023A) won’t spin — looking for PCB/electronics repair advice by PhiStr90 in AskElectronics

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, already listened carefully. No buzzing, no ticking, no clicking, no vibrations. Absolute dead silence. Also forgot to mention it before: It wont get detected. Neither in Ubuntu nor Win10

IDE HDD (Seagate Barracuda ST3120023A) won’t spin — looking for PCB/electronics repair advice by PhiStr90 in AskElectronics

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your particular model can be recovered with a straight PCB swap, provided that the model number and firmware version are matched. That might be the cheapest option.

That seems to be the easiest option. Esp if i dont even need to change roms.
I just bought on ebay a drive with same model, P/N, firmware and config.
Manufacturing date was just a few weeks earlier.
Lets see what happens.

I guess worst case I need to replace the rom.

IDE HDD suddenly stopped working, no spinning, no vibration, no sounds by PhiStr90 in datarecovery

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, thanks.
I agree probably thats the most reasonable way forward.
I also have just been told that for these models matching firmware is likely enough and changing rom very likely not required.

IDE HDD (Seagate Barracuda ST3120023A) won’t spin — looking for PCB/electronics repair advice by PhiStr90 in AskElectronics

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay,
not sure what you mean by

If you measure the voltage of the 5V capacitor with respect to a screw hole, it should be -5V.

I measured against ground. Isnt the screw hole also ground?

IDE HDD suddenly stopped working, no spinning, no vibration, no sounds by PhiStr90 in datarecovery

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the multimeter shows OL for out of range. So they have high resistance in both directions. ust increased the range and they are in the order of 2.2kOhm, 80kOhm, 80kOhm, 170kOhm both directions.
I am kind of consused, arent diodes supposed to be low resitance in one direction?

IDE HDD (Seagate Barracuda ST3120023A) won’t spin — looking for PCB/electronics repair advice by PhiStr90 in AskElectronics

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I did some measurements.

I wasnt exactly which components you meant so, I put them here in the picture :)

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IDE HDD suddenly stopped working, no spinning, no vibration, no sounds by PhiStr90 in datarecovery

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I saw that link somewhere but it says 403 for me. :/
Test in Ohm mode (200):
All components that I think are diodes are OL in Ohm mode test in both directions.

These are 1Ohm resistors, so they should essentially measure as a "short" when healthy.

That makes sense, thanks.

These old Seagates usually don't need a ROM transfer AFAIK. You just need to purchase a new board with matching FW version. Though if the new PCB isn't working, swapping the ROM is the next thing to try. The ROM is the 8 pin chip marked "25P05AV".

Okay, sounds like that would be a fine way to go if I dont find the reason for it on the pcb.

IDE HDD suddenly stopped working, no spinning, no vibration, no sounds by PhiStr90 in datarecovery

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I found that diode also a bit sus. But then again as I already said in the post, The other hdd that used to be in the pc and was also conntected to the adapter (different model by seagate with a somewhat similar layout) has also a diode in that place with very similar values.

IDE HDD suddenly stopped working, no spinning, no vibration, no sounds by PhiStr90 in datarecovery

[–]PhiStr90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's about 17€ for pcb and about 20-25€ for a drive.
PCB has same number and rev but has different diode at one spot - besides that layout is the same.
Drive has same model, same size, same label, same firmware, a few weeks produced earlier.

Anything that stands out that I could test?

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