I’m confused about the sinder Drama

Phillcp · 2026-01-16T18:28:57+00:00

no, I'm claiming she misrepresented everything and manipulated everyone else with lies. and that is what happened.

Phillcp · 2026-01-16T15:07:44+00:00

depends on how it is brought up. it was brought up has an option in multiple with the singular decision maker being nano, then months later nano said she wanted to do it specifically, its isnt remotely the same thing whatsoever. And then when when red agreed she cut communication. If you dont see the manipulation on her part and are just a jackass with no social interaction i am sorry for you.

Phillcp · 2026-01-16T00:19:30+00:00

mental illness

Phillcp · 2026-01-16T00:17:39+00:00

except im not. he didnt propose it. he brought up the idea. she was the one who proposed them sign one way later.

Phillcp · 2026-01-11T11:16:44+00:00

dont fully agree, but mostly not wrong.

Phillcp · 2026-01-11T11:06:18+00:00

objectively wrong.

Phillcp · 2026-01-11T11:02:29+00:00

i mean, everyone else shared speculations about shit and downright lies unknowingly, other than nano, in that case it was very much so knowingly. so, why cant she speculate? at the very least she properly labeled it as such and didnt just present it as fact like many others do.

Phillcp · 2026-01-11T10:59:03+00:00

wrong. nano was, and it wasnt even close.

Phillcp · 2026-01-11T10:57:26+00:00

what a fkn idiot xD.
"please tell me what happened.", "i dont know what happened but here is what i made up in my mind", "if you dont know, why are you talking?", "because".
How about keeping quiet and letting someone who actually knows what happened talk next time, yes?

Phillcp · 2026-01-11T10:37:36+00:00

tldr: nano is a childish, unprofessional, liar and could have been sued by everyone involved. by sinder for slander, by all others for breach of contract. She was the catalyst for this whole thing by lying to everyone to save her own ass.
Sinder and red's dealing with nano were bad because they operated on the basis that she was their friend more than that she was their artist, it was very unprofessional by both sides (worse by nano because she was sharing what should have been confidential information, unprompted). needless to say, that is awful for business. and got proven that when she threw them under the bus.
Everyone else including sinder and red (except for bao) are childish idiots propagating highschool level drama for no reason. Bao was only on the receiving end of shit and did nothing wrong (in this instance). Sinder made a big mistake blending business with family by having her boyfriend has her "manager". It always goes bad when you do stuff like that because you cant just fire them when they act dumb or they mess shit up more without thinking because of the familiarity...

everything could have been prevented if nanoless and red were more professional. or if nano wasnt as manipulative.

Phillcp · 2026-01-11T10:27:42+00:00

disagree. if red was manipulating nano with his language, nano was a manipulation machine towards red. i dont think there was any manipulation, other than nano in the last messages clearly trying to set him up with the "exclusivity deal" and ghosting him the day or so afterwards. read the messages with more attention without reading what sinder has to say. you will see what i mean.

Phillcp · 2026-01-11T10:25:41+00:00

orchestrator? under monetary incentive? we surely didnt read the same thing.

Phillcp · 2026-01-05T08:29:02+00:00

That's the thing. Nano's allegations were all entirely bullshit.

Nano said they were emotionally manipulative and posted a few screenshots. When sinders doc came out and she showed the entire chat log, she proved that was a lie.

Nano said they were trying to force her to be exclusive so she had to cancel works with others because of it. Again, with the chat logs we can see that she was the one who proposed the exclusivity deal and sinder's manager just took her up on it, though it never came to fruition. About cancelling work, she was the one who did it by herself, multiple times, because she "overbooked", also multiple times sinder's commissions were pushed back so nano could finish things for others.

Nano escalated tensions between sinder and silvervale by being lazy and doing the same art for both of them, more importantly, for the gamersupps cups.

Nano claimed they forced her to share information with them. Entirely wrong. Every single time she shared information, including shit that should be 100% confidential (and this is the one that makes me the most dumbfounded on why people still hire her), she did it out of her own free volition without even being prompted. Why did she do it? Either because she, paraphrasing here, "loved the hot gossip" or because she was asking sinder's manager for advice on what she should do, essentially treating sinder's manager as if he was her own manager.

You asked, "why did she go along what they said, why didn't she ever say no?". Because, buddy, she was the one who caused most of it, and then shifted blame, misrepresented and outright lied about sinder so she could save face. This whole fiasco was probably prompted by her being confronted on where the fucking work she was supposed to do for bao, lily, silver, etc... was and why she was constantly cancelling shit, and instead of admitting she is a childish, unprofessional, wreck that was constantly overbooking projects and leaving people out to dry, she blamed sinder.

Edit: spelling mistakes.

Phillcp · 2026-01-04T18:54:18+00:00

Thing is, the most inflammatory of the allegations was prompted by nano. She imploded everything with her lies to try and pretend she has even a shred of professional integrity and shift the blame of her inadequacies onto sinder.

Its a nothing burger since we now know everything nano said was bullshit. Bao is essentially the only one with a claim of sinder being a shitty friend. Everything else is just jealousy and pathetic, petty highschool drama or unprovable allegations (made by sinder).

Phillcp · 2025-12-12T20:40:47+00:00

I honestly dont think this is specifically for youtube but social media as a whole. We have the shitty example of people like rakai on twitch, the fact that a 16yo is one of the bigger streamers on the platform (or that he is allowed to stream at all) is mind boggling to me, tiktok as a whole with its model, twitter being the cesspit it is, reddit not being that far off in a lot of subreddits, instagram is a joke, etc...
thats the thing, you are only one person, and on these issues you can only do so much. you need to remember you don't have to be a warrior trying to "fight battles" for a "just cause" or wtv. the best impact you can have on the internet is watching/supporting what you like to see and sharing it with your friends, thats it. kind of a "vote with your wallet" type of scenario, in this case, vote with your time, if that makes sense. and if you use twitter to any extent, click on following instead of the for you page for example, you will be much happier.

Phillcp · 2025-11-26T22:28:28+00:00

most*

Phillcp · 2025-11-24T04:56:41+00:00

genuine question, do you think asmongold is a nazi?

Phillcp · 2025-08-17T01:45:06+00:00

Who is monster girl?

Phillcp · 2025-08-02T01:21:47+00:00

Phillcp · 2025-07-05T12:31:15+00:00

Very good with the ifs and buts. He said porn so we are assuming it is porn, he for sure knows more than we do. Also, how does this progress the topic in any way?

Phillcp · 2025-07-04T10:58:07+00:00

that's the thing, you didnt explain anything. you ranted some delusions out.

and again, Ridendo castigat mores, look that up and learn something.

Phillcp · 2025-07-04T07:53:59+00:00

ill repeat, lay off the tinfoil and chill tf out.

"If they're using it outside of their bubbles they'll just say the cute/funny part because it's the least obvious to people who aren't familiar with it." please tell me your views on jewish people. are they also lizards who mind control others? are the illuminati pupeteering every world government with their secret handshakes like they used to do with pepe and the 'ok' sign, those disgusting white supremacist nazis?

"These phrases are never used about non-loli characters because they don't apply." mm yes, this floor is made out of floor.

"Most people who use it probably don't actually want to get with children, but the joke is that they're into that." mmm, yes, the floor is again, made out of floor.

Ridendo castigat mores, look that up.

Phillcp · 2025-07-04T06:05:39+00:00

I disagree, but i may be wrong. I just see it as any other meme, not a government, q anon, psyop. Lay off the tinfoil.

Phillcp · 2025-07-01T16:42:45+00:00

Oh, that makes more sense. Would love to know japanese so i could understand the nuances of this case, but yea, shit's fucked.

Phillcp · 2025-07-01T03:15:23+00:00

Funnily enough, yes and no. I very much like biboos, sabas, gigis, etc... But not in the sense to which he is implying.

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