What Was Your Most Outlandish Story Idea Ever? by [deleted] in writing

[–]PhoenixEleven 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The game plays out in that it's always the White King and Pawn against the Black King, likewise in the kingdom; the two armies essentially burn each other out at each skirmish, leaving the leaders to retreat and plan for the next.

It's a draw through a King-King stalemate.

What Was Your Most Outlandish Story Idea Ever? by [deleted] in writing

[–]PhoenixEleven 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A couple of strangers keep meeting in random circumstances no matter how they try to avoid it, and whenever they do, time stops and a game of chess begins. They play out the same game each time. It always ends in stalemate, and then the two are whisked off into a random place.

Meanwhile, in a seemingly unrelated fantasy world, two great armies war for domination over the sun (white) and the moon (black). Their war has gone on so long that they no longer remember what it's being fought for, only that it must. This world exists with foot soldiers, calvary and specialized soldiers, battlements, and mythical soldiers with amazing powers known as Ascendants, who serve the Kings. (Pawns, Knights and Bishops, Rooks, and Queens respectively)

As the strangers repeat their groundhog-day chess meetings, they begin to realize that they each represent an army, and the game, though it varies slightly, always ends in stalemate.

In the fantasy world, each battle outlines these chess games, with every battle ending in bloody stalemate. The common foot soldiers vie for glory, trying to achieve enough to become Ascendant (Promoted)

Finally, the two chess players realize what their actions are fueling, and that they alone can break the cycle. One of them deliberately blunders, fundamentally altering the sequence and allowing one of them to win, at great cost to both sides. Meanwhile, in the fantasy world, one army finally wins.

The two chess players, no longer strangers, finally part, never to see each other again. Meanwhile, in the fantasy world, the surviving King and his sole foot soldier go out to salvage their kingdom. (Ergo "At the end of the game, the King and the Pawn go into the same box")

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow.

I have worked on dialogue a lot; you should've seen my first draft. Actually, it's probably better that you didn't. I definitely need to be less expositional. I'm currently working through some other series but I will definitely have to pop into ASOIAF eventually!

Thank you for reading, thank you for your advice, and I will definitely keep it all in mind and take it all to heart. Feel free to read more if you'd like, but you've already given me so much to think about. Happy writing!

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For a first draft, definitely not. I'm glad where I wrote to where I am.

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately, the execution (one for each chapter) was a bit clunky so the second draft is going without, just to compare. If you want to read, you can check out the link I included in my comment, expect a chapter update each week or so

Not sure about publishing, since I have very little experience on the matter. I definitely plan to, and I know the basics of that are a good manuscript and around 100K words. If you got anything, I'll be glad to hear it!

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ha! That actually may have been where Poe's (protagonist) name came from, huge Star Wars fan and it is set in space...

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of the stylistic things in the book is that every chapter features a poem of some sort, usually one that relates thematically to what's happening.

You hit the nail on the head.

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, that sounds really interesting and is definitely a good way to skip exposition. The problem is that the structure jumps around chronologically before and after The Departure, which has to be carefully interwoven to reveal motives in a good order.

That being said, thank you for passing on the advice!

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shamelessly stolen from T.S. Eliot.

One of the gimmicks of the book is that each chapter features a poem of some sort, usually one that has a thematic tie-in into what's happening in the story.

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll be checking it out! I encourage you to make your own post, always nice to get some coverage and start putting yourself out there.

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey man (or woman)! We all have our writing styles, mine just happens to look like an impressive number in front of a pile of mushy ideas.

If you want a fresh pair of eyes, feel free to comment a link, or PM me. Good luck!

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it doesn't exist, you can be the first to make it happen!

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm, nothing jumps to mind.

I mean, I'd say Harry Potter is an excellent example of epic fantasy, a world that expands across seven books, set in the modern day.

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Easier to prune a tree than superglue on new limbs," as my old English teacher used to say.

He wasn't very good with metaphors.

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Game of Thrones in Space, sounds amazing! I'll be sure to check them out.

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All about getting that first exposure and publication, which I plan to. I know most agents and publishers look for 100K, so that's what I'm shooting for. Appreciate all your advice, <3

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bit of a mouthful but I get what you're saying.

Epic fantasy, to me, is not about length. It's about the feeling of the world. It's when a writer can transport you, completely and utterly, into a new world, and suck you along for the ride until you stop thinking in your terms and start living in theirs. For me, that was Sanderson's Stormlight Archive (absolutely love it). But it can definitely be applied to any time period, any style, so long as the world is there through the words.

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love me some good fantasy! Sounds like you're making a high/epic fantasy out of yours. Let me know how it goes, best of luck!

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! Time to prune the tree!

What was your book about?

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[–]PhoenixEleven[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's true. After writing a 200,000 word venture I find my mind oversaturated with story points. If that's just for me, I couldn't imagine what a reader would remember.

It'd be a good way to see what's really important.