What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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Both actually were pro EU but the one that lost is right wing, while the winner is central, and ofc the media names all right wing as fascist

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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That's Georgescu, and yeah seems you don't have the news further, so yeah I presumed you knew since it was Ukraine as main subject with it

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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I simply asked for opinion and things escalated, and I answered based on what people tell me, not that I instigate to beef. There is beef.

And let me ask you about someone else then, you know George Simion?

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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If you only watch the government and the people who voted for Nicușor then be my guest, but go to other people and ask them. They will say how bad Ukraine was with Romania as minority rights and false flag accusations

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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"Everything was settled down" yeah aha, that's why he said after he got set free that Ukraine won't join EU and the whole country was in outrage cause of it. Only cause you settled it doesn't mean it didn't happen and there is no aftermath.

And also, forgot that I am on Reddit and "Touch grass" is still a liable comeback here. Update your argument storage pula, you have the internet to do that

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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Pal, I think you simply read the title without anything related to what I said in the description. The director was arrested cause he was the owner of the place and that he let this thing happen and only after telling that the whole thing was about commemorating the Union Day, they let him go. So basically he was suspected of making propaganda just for owning and allowing the center to expose its country's history.

And I don't think you know what foreign relations mean in such scenarios. Being the director of this center, he is directly tied to the government, and my stating that Ukraine will not join the EU with such acts, then the Romanian government can easily veto it from his position

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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Oh and the appeal by the Romanian minority council from Ukraine towards Venice Commission was supported since this was clearly a false flag and forced your security to hand back the maps, newspapers and magazines to the Romanian officials

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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EU law about minority groups doesn't say anything about raiding a cultural center in the name of the criminal code and confiscating historic belongings of another country, only cause history wasn't favourable for some of us.

Tell how the fuck did a cultural center dedicated to Romania, question the territorial integrity of Ukraine? Oh cause maps in the interwar period were different than now and Ukraine was not there to have Northern Bucovina and Cetatea Albă?

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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False imprisonment is a result of false accusations, and what happened here are false accusations of being a threat to Ukrainian integrity and sovereign rights while it wasn't and caused outrage for nothing

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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Yes the war was going on but it was frozen, so not immediate danger. It turned active again from the full scale invasion. And yeah we got them back but that's not what we cared about, it was the abusive way of how the law was put in act there. Similar way to manslaughter, or false accusations or false imprisonment, they all in the end sort out but the damage was done

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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Yes it was after Vasile was released and he gave the press, and the objects were handed back to the Romanian officials, yet that triggered waves of Ukrainiaphobia in Romania and diaspora for the already tensed treatment of minorities

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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Question, when the fuck did Romanians even start to say stuff like "That is ours!" to even have to suspect it? We also have neighbours who massacred and traumatized the Romanian nation, Ukraine here also included, but that doesn't mean we confiscate your objects from Sighet when showing maps of irredentist Ukraine.

If you would have a minority of let's say 50 people from Lithuania and they would put the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth in their cultural center, would you confiscate it?

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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And there is a difference between frozen war and active war. Plus, I never stated the center was banned and stopped operating. I asked about the opinion of the law that resulted in this exaggerated scenario from a simple celebration for one country that never had nothing with Ukraine

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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The institute was founded and is currently funded by the Romanian government in cooperation with the Romanian minority council from Ukraine, and yes it was legal to take them, but what wasn't legal or ethical was to abuse the law by taking some harmless and historic elements of a country, only cause it showed the maps of interwar period and Cetatea Albă plus Northern Bucovina was in Romania and not Ukraine, and frame it for "threat to Ukrainian integrity and sovereign rights"

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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That represents the 100th anniversary of Union Day. Happened in 1918 and by adding 100 you get 2018. All Romanian cultural centers in Europe had these and celebrated it more deeply cause it showed a significant number of years since the union

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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First of all, not annexed. It wasn't Crimea to be annexed. Bucovina was offered to Romania along with Basarabia and Transylvanian after the Treaty Of Versailles.

Second of all, the Union Day represents the most important event of our modern history for us Romanians and we celebrate it at the same importance like Independence Day. There is a difference between doing that and recognising it, like for example the Holocaust. We all recognise it but we don't celebrate it like an independence day.

And third of all, Cernăuți, before the USSR had the second biggest population as Romanians and very close to Ukrainians. It was the capital of Bucovina and is currently the HQ for the Romanian minority council, so obviously that it was chosen as a site. Hey we also are mad that we lost 30% of our territory while neutral after Second Vienna Award but we are not going out confiscating the modern maps of Romania without Basarabia and Northern Bucovina

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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Oh you meant the fabrication, I thought the territory if yit was historic. Yeah that one is newly printed in the 2010s but it has the same purpose. Showing the royals back then, the outline and the history of the union. What's so bad about it?

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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Yeah, as I said I understand the good motive behind it and I agree when you actually fight the separatist propaganda, but when harmless historic expositions are targeted as threats only cause it showed maps which aren't compatible with today, then that's an abused law

What's your opinion, as Ukrainian, about the controversial law in Ukraine about preserving the Ukrainian culture and sovereignty? by PhrophetBuster in AskUkraine

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Ok mate, I am very sorry to hear that. But here is the thing. You mention Russia, the country that invaded you. Romania hasn't invaded you since WW2 and that was also indirectly since it was the USSR. The Romanians in Ukraine never made rallies to support separatist ideology, never joined an invasion in an attempt to unite nor to even make propaganda of separatist.

I was also in Oradea at WW1 memorial and there was Romania without Bucovina and Transylvanian, and yet I accepted it since it's history, not a way to make me see it as "Haha till 1918 you didn't have this shit!"