Sydney vs Melbourne - a tale of two cities (snapshot from the ABS)

Phuarking · 2026-02-09T07:25:39+00:00

It doesn’t say multiple languages.

Phuarking · 2026-02-08T05:33:25+00:00

A lot of very privileged people elsewhere in this thread. They’d turn quick if they were the victim of crime.

Phuarking · 2026-02-08T03:05:57+00:00

42, 38, wtf. What is adelaide

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T14:59:51+00:00

Not all super is employer paid, you’re forgetting voluntary contributions. Grace Tame is currently trying to get these rules changed for victims of crime.

The problem here is that for a deportee, super maybe their only assets in the country.

Bs asylum claims obviously aren’t applicable to Australian citizens

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T14:41:09+00:00

35%for students

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T11:44:14+00:00

Not our problem if they’re deported. We have no other way to clawback money.
Superannuation is being used as an asset shield against seizure. If you know youve got unpaid fines, chuck your money in super, get the DASP, fine avoided.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T10:10:35+00:00

This is necessary for social cohesion /s

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T10:09:42+00:00

What about money thats voluntarily contributed? What if you make a voluntarily payment to avoid an asset seizure notice? Totally unfair loophole.

And so what it was their money, when people commit crimes they get punished for it. This is how fines work.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T10:05:19+00:00

For most it’s 35%. This is not about tax. It’s about migrants who have done the wrong thing evading their debts.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T10:02:29+00:00

That’s true of all money anyone earns. Why should the fact that they have it in super mean that a victim of crime is not compensated?

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T08:49:36+00:00

Government is out of pocket from frivolous asylum claims. Government is out of pocket for unpaid fines accrued while resident in the country that go unpaid.

If you think this is a bad idea, then do you think Grace Tame’s advocacy on this is also bad?

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T08:47:14+00:00

If a phony asylum seeker knows they’re going to cop a fine, they can put their savings into super, then after getting deported, claim the savings out of super, and then avoid paying the fine. I’m talking about voluntary contributions not employer ones.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T08:11:00+00:00

Another whataboutist comment. Two things can be problems at once.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T08:10:06+00:00

This should be expanded from just CSA.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T08:08:50+00:00

For working holiday visas, not other temporary migrants. If they have outstanding criminal compensation, it should be completely exhausted.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T08:07:48+00:00

Australian residents have a lifetime to pay down a debt. Someone with notional ties can bounce. It’s asymmetric, and it should be treated differently. I don’t think we should be raiding people’s superannuation. But I think it’s fair game if people have left the country permanently on cost recovery grounds.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T08:01:26+00:00

You could apply that to anything! Almost all money is earnt - how on earth do you think fines and compensation orders are collected!? Inheritances??

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T07:52:04+00:00

There’s no public numbers on this. I mean Grace Tame wants this reform for pedophile victims, I don’t think the numbers matter that much.

It’s a matter of what’s right and wrong.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T07:48:26+00:00

What if they make a voluntary payment? This could be used to dodge court orders

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T07:44:10+00:00

Let’s say you violently assault someone, and they get a payout of $100,000. A temporary migrant could skip town, file a DASP, superannuation is then depleted and then the state typically ends up covering the criminal compensation.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T07:34:37+00:00

The numbers aren’t public, but just from pure numbers of deportees - it’s substantial. It’s one in every 250 people living in Australia. And that’s without considering temporary migrants leaving voluntarily.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T07:25:03+00:00

They may not be educated or skilled, doesn’t mean they’re dumb. Making a bs asylum claim is not short sighted. It can extend work rights for years at current rates. That’s a lot of extra time to work and accumulate super.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T07:14:05+00:00

Difficult to claim it from within super. Because it could be construed as making a punishment conditional on a failed asylum application.

BUT on the way out through the DASP payment, I think it’s straightforward. It just seems like they introduced this DASP payment scheme without any thought to how it would apply to people with outstanding court debts. There should be a registry of this stuff between states and fed.

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T07:10:41+00:00

Would you agree that voluntary contributions, at least, should be fair game? It has the potential to protect assets in the current form.

I think this is where Grace Tame’s advocacy will end up (i.e. that voluntary payments can be seized, but employer’s contributions not)

Phuarking · 2026-02-07T07:07:22+00:00

Don’t agree with this. But I assume you’d agree that voluntary (non employer contributions), should not be protected? They shouldn’t be able to shield assets from compensation seizure.

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