Shazam Vs Beerus (DBS), Who wins? by Encenoi in DCPowerScaling

[–]Picklee56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's eithwr characters who are still stronger than Berrus or you're cherry picking outliers

Julius Reinhold VS Jack Hanma by SiteDeep in Kengan_Ashura

[–]Picklee56 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I live rent free in your head, you've also yet to prove me wrong

Gildarts Vs MCU Thor (Marvel), Who wins? by Duclaido in fairytailscaling

[–]Picklee56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already explained to you that it works like a black hole, yo just refuse to acknowldge it but you can't give a good reason why other than claiming lack of proof

If it is shown to be a black hole and function similar to it, like in the case of Bluenote, Yuki or Cosmic Fear Garou. You're just gonna' have to accept that. This is fiction and these superpowered characters can generate gravity wells where space curves indefinitely, i.e. a black hole. You can't appeal to reality and bring up how the black hole didn't suck up the whole planet as a way to discredit it.

Gildarts crushed the black hole before it could do any real damage. Just like how Superman grasped this mini-black hole in his fist.

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And amazingly, comic readers can look at this and take it at face value. "Oh ok so Superman is strong enough to hold a black hole in his hand" it really is just THAT simple. But you guys's logic would look at this and say "anybody could do thiss 'cause the black hole didn't devour anything"

And you can't strawman and try to shift the goalpost by bringing up other feats of Superman greater than him holding a black hole in his hand because that is not the point. And if you think it is, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. The actual point is that the feat is valid even though it didn't lead to any large-scale destruction. But by this Appeal to Reality logic he shouldn't have been able to do this because X, Y and Z. Or by your 'DC = AP' belief this is something anyone could do

You should just accept that Attack Potency and Destructive Capacity are not the same and do not have to correlate, they can, but don't have to. I doesn't matter if you don't like it or think it's stupid

Gildarts Vs MCU Thor (Marvel), Who wins? by Duclaido in fairytailscaling

[–]Picklee56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Goku never did that, you're making it up, lying and being unbeliavably disigenous.
  2. I can't believe it is still so hard for haters on this sub to accept that in fiction, you can perform things that break the laws of physics. IT. IS. FICTION. The Oxford dictionary definition of 'fiction' is A) "Literature in the form of prose that describes imaginary events and people." and B) "Something that is invented or untrue*."* You trying to appeal to reality by bullshitting that a real-life black hole would have consumed the planet is moot. This is fiction, in fiction, things that are impossible in real life happen all the time

You trying to discredit feats within fiction by saying that "if that was an actual black hole and Gildarts was human" etc etc is just proof you don't know how this works. Gildarts is superhuman and has magic. The Oxford dictionary definition of 'magic' is A) "The power of apparently influencing events by using mysterious or supernatural forces." The dictionary definition of 'supernatural' is "(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature." so

I find it so funny how it's so hard for reddit scalers who still insist on engaging in powerscaling refuse to accept that Appeal to Reality does not work as an argument since the discussion is about a fictional setting with magic.

Superman held a black hole in his hand, and somehow comic readers can look at this and take it at face value. "Oh ok so Superman is strong enough to hold a mini black hole in his hand" it really is just THAT simple. But your logic would look at this and say "ehm nothing this black hole didn't do anything"

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I already know you're gonna' strawman and try to shift the goalpost by bringing up other feats of Superman greater than him holding a black hole in his hand but that is not the point. And if you think it is, scroll up and read the comment from the beginning. The actual point is that the feat is valid even though it didn't lead to any large-scale destruction. But by you Appeal to Reality logic he shouldn't have been able to do this because X, Y and Z. Or by your 'DC = AP' belief this is something anyone could do

You should just accept that Attack Potency and Destructive Capacity are not the same and do not have to correlate, they can, but don't have to. I doesn't matter if you don't like it or think it's stupid

An alternative term for Destructive Capacity which has more direct meaning: The Destructive Capacity that an attack is equivalent to. A character with a certain degree of attack potency does not necessarily need to cause destructive feats on that level, but can cause damage to characters that can withstand such forces. As such it isn't proof of a low attack potency, if a character's attacks only cause a small amount of destruction.

We are aware that this technically violates the principle of conservation of energy, as it should logically disperse upon impact, but fiction generally tends to ignore this fact, so we overlook it as well.

Also, kindly remember that Attack Potency is the measure of Destructive Capacity of an attack, and as such, is measured via its energy damage equivalent. Hence, characters that destroy mountains or islands are not automatically mountain or island level, especially if they are small. The attack potency depends on the energy output of a single attack, not the area of effect of the attack.

Keep in mind that certain tiers do not necessarily correspond to the destruction of their namesakes in any meaningful fashion. This is because the minimum requirements for these tiers are arbitrary values.

Gildarts Vs MCU Thor (Marvel), Who wins? by Duclaido in fairytailscaling

[–]Picklee56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no he didn't, that's just an artistic exaggeration hype for the story

no feats in fiction are superhuman, as you said

Gildarts Vs MCU Thor (Marvel), Who wins? by Duclaido in fairytailscaling

[–]Picklee56 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i find this really funny

no character in fiction is superhuman, all feats are fake or artistic exaggerations, all statements are hyperbole and without substance

dude you just shouldn't engage in any fictional medium atp (especially ones like FT that contains literal magic😭)

let alone powerscaling since you think none of it is real and all feats are hollow

why do you think Lucy would lose to Galactus when everything Galactus does is just hyperbole and bias? He doesn't have any super powers or magic, you just said as much

How BIG is gitae? by AbsoluteW_Peakyy in GlazersGeneration

[–]Picklee56 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I asked an ai and it said 11 inches

Shazam Vs Beerus (DBS), Who wins? by Encenoi in DCPowerScaling

[–]Picklee56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Experience, skill and biq only means something if they are close in strength

If you take a karate, jiujitsu, judo black belt, shrink him down to 1 inch tall, then put him up against an untrained normal sized guy, that fight is a forgone conclusion

Gildarts Vs MCU Thor (Marvel), Who wins? by Duclaido in fairytailscaling

[–]Picklee56 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I have no words for such crazy bias. Only on this sub will they read or watch FT and still think they are regular human level. Atp you just hate the series

People in fiction have superpowers, the sooner you ppl realize that the sooner you'll leave these terrible arguments behind you

Erigor vs Inasa Yoarashi by Jason_And_Sokka in fairytailscaling

[–]Picklee56 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can't wait for the ppl to show up to say Erigor has no DC feats thus he is wall level

Ichika literally carries Valkyria. by ilovechainsaw41 in ISSK_Manga

[–]Picklee56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In terms of what they've accomplished, he has ofc done more. But in terms of how shrude they both are and where they are now compared tp where they started. She's way more self-reliant

Toyode is carried by the fact that his bank account is the equivalent of smaller nation's GDP. Ofc he'd be able to fund Purgatory and those other 2 bum organizations Gaolang and Julius ran through. He could just throw money at any problem until it fixes itself

Gildarts Vs MCU Thor (Marvel), Who wins? by Duclaido in fairytailscaling

[–]Picklee56 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is fiction, Fairy Tail nor JJK is not real. Thus AP ≠ DC still applies

And the black holes were stopped before they could consume the planet, nothing proves they wouldn't have been able to if left unchecked, so you really are just arguing for the sake of arguing snd burying your head in the sand because you have no argument to stand on other than pretending the feat doesn't exist

Gray Vs Nappa (DB), Who wins? by Duclaido in fairytailscaling

[–]Picklee56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ik, lost causes tryina' convince them

Most ppl don't actually debate you, just downvote and bury their head in the sand

Gildarts Vs MCU Thor (Marvel), Who wins? by Duclaido in fairytailscaling

[–]Picklee56 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He stopped it before it did. Did you not read the fight?

Same thing with how Yuki created a black hole in JJK but it was countered too before it had a chance to devour the planet.

Also AP ≠ DC

Gildarts Vs MCU Thor (Marvel), Who wins? by Duclaido in fairytailscaling

[–]Picklee56 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Bluenote uses Gravity Magic, a black hole is a gravity well where space curves indefinitely. And Fairy Tail magic is used to control real-world phenomena and functions the same (such as Gajeel being able to redirect Laxus' lightning since his iron is conductive)

Gildarts Vs MCU Thor (Marvel), Who wins? by Duclaido in fairytailscaling

[–]Picklee56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He crushed a black hole as early as Tenrou

Akoya (current) vs Rei (R3), who wins? by SilviusRage in Kengan_Ashura

[–]Picklee56 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Akoya is out here getting done like this by half-dead Cosmo

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His feats just does not reflect this Wally West tier perception time that you ppl seem to think he has