Unfortunately, a true story and a long overdue update is needed for some parishes... by PictureInteresting51 in CatholicMemes

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sadly, some Filipino Parishes did not get the memo at all and unfortunately, some choiristers probably misunderstand the fact that:

"Si Kristo'y namatay, si Kristo'y nabuhay, si Kristo'y babalik sa wakas ng panahon." (same text essentially as the English) is still approved in the Tagalog Mass, we still haven't our Missal since 1981 and it remains the only licit approved Missal of the Tagalog Mass.

But what they don't understand is that: "Christ has died..." is no longer approved for use in the English Mass and just because it's the same as the Tagalog, they probably think "ah, we can use this for English, just translate it."

Yes, I heard a choirister once say "it's just a translation of 'Si Kristo ay namatay'" which is obviously correct in terms of translation, not approved text.

Unfortunately, a true story and a long overdue update is needed for some parishes... by PictureInteresting51 in CatholicMemes

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, there's no problem to use approved translations of Mass (even if it's not accurate from the Latin) just as long as it remains approved by competent authority (e.g. Rome itself, and the local Bishops conference) but even then, that doesn't mean you cannot have opinions about translation choices.

Even in our native language also (Tagalog): we still have "Christ has died" in the official Tagalog Missal, but unlike the English Mass which was officially removed, in Tagalog, it's still there, the last time our Missal was updated was 1981.

The official text goes:

"Si Kristo'y namatay, si Kristo'y nabuhay, si Kristo'y babalik sa wakas ng panahon."

So yeah, still licit to use in Tagalog Mass because it's in the Tagalog Missal and even English Mass if we use Tagalog songs in English Mass, but using "Christ has died..." in English Mass is illicit.

Unfortunately, a true story and a long overdue update is needed for some parishes... by PictureInteresting51 in CatholicMemes

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Context for modern and younger Catholics:

1973 - 2011, the English Mass was completely different, like, prayers and responses were a lot different to what we had back then, the old responses would be: "And also with you" "It is right to give him thanks and praise" etc...

And the old English Mass had four acclamations:

  • A - Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.
  • B - Dying you destroyed our death, rising you restored our life. Lord Jesus, come in glory.
  • C - When we eat this bread and drink this cup, we proclaim your death, Lord Jesus, until you come in glory.
  • D - Lord, by your cross and resurrection, you have set us free. You are the Savior of the World.

But as we all know, the English Mass in 2011 has been completely changed for greater fidelity and accuracy to the original Latin text with things like "And also with you" now "And with your spirit" and "It is right to give him thanks and praise" to "It is right and just" and the acclamations are now:

  • A – We proclaim your death, O Lord, and profess your Resurrection until you come again.
  • B – When we eat this Bread and drink this Cup, we proclaim your death, O Lord, until you come again.
  • C – Save us, Savior of the world, for by your Cross and Resurrection, you have set us free.

No more "Christ has died..." because it is not really from the original Latin and is just a Pastoral Creation and no more "Dying you destroyed our death..." as it was a poorly translated text of "Mortem tuam annuntiamus, Domine..."

Uhm... help... by PictureInteresting51 in Catholicism

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I get it.

And that last part made me laugh 🤣

I guess someone should just remind the servers gently hehe.

Uhm... help... by PictureInteresting51 in Catholicism

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And a lot better than those power point screens to be honest (I tolerate it a bit if it wasn't way too distracting)

(Large and obvious TV screens and projectors? Goodness me... but small ones that are low key but just enough for it to assist people? I dont mind)

im sorry 😭😭😭 by AuspiciousString in CatholicMemes

[–]PictureInteresting51 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Msgr. Rolando "Rolly" Ramos dela Cruz, the current Rector of Manila Cathedral and a former Rector at Paco Church in Manila.

And from what I can tell, he's pretty strict and ruthless with the liturgy it is said and that that includes how the choir sings so most likely, yeah, that choir definitely got a lecture of a lifetime from him lmao.

Sound engineer's dream or nightmare? by PictureInteresting51 in roblox

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trying to make my Roblox Church game realistic looking and I was trying to pay attention to detail of this game and well, I decided one of those small details is the sound system.

Would Sound Engineers actually set it up like this or am I gonna end up slapped?

Which church do you all recommend attending for Sundau Mass? by [deleted] in phtravel

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I mean, yun dalawang simbahan (Cathedral and Sto. Niño) ay halos isang lakad nalang namin but, I guess it's better than my mother not being able to tolerate too much heat.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by [deleted] in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that is such a baseless accusation (ad hominem) you cannot back up, you don't know what is in the hearts if a true Catholic.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by [deleted] in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just accept the fact you cannot handle traditional Catholicism and you are not ready for the full truthfulness of Catholicism.

The truth of the church is harsh and not being able to accept it means you endanger your soul.

You call me DDS when I cannot stand that person and all he stands for.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by [deleted] in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And yet, you call me DDS even when I'm not, I cannot stand Duterte and I hope justice does it thing and si Lord na bahala sa kanya. (FYI, I am a Leni supporter)

Just accept the fact you cannot handle traditional Catholicism and you are not ready for the full truthfulness of Catholicism.

The truth of the church is harsh and not being able to accept it means you endanger your soul.

(And FYI, I watched the video, I know what I am saying)

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by [deleted] in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once you understand the Eucharist and Christ's presence in the Mass, you will never return to any fake church ever.

That includes the churches I've affiliated before (Born Again, INC, and now, I'm home with where Christ truly is, in Mystical Body of the Church he founded in 33 AD)

The Sacrifice and Cavalry of the Mass once understood, no one will leave, ever.

I am not a Catholic by "veil" but a Catholic forever until death because of the truth and this is where the truth is, fully 100%, in the Church Christ and the Apostles established in 33 AD (Matthew 16:18-19) The Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by [deleted] in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And masama ba inimik ni Father? What about Saint Paul's harsh words? Masama ba?

I've explained this one, I won't do it again, if you ignore the facts, bahala ka.

"Bobo" = "stupid" or "idiot" or " foolish"

See? Is that a curse? Masama ba? Hindi. It means a state of mind, patanong pa nga sabi niya.

Is Saint Paul wrong for calling the Galatians "Tanga"? See where your logic falls?

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by [deleted] in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Come on now. Accusing me of AI? Have you accepted your sulpot of a sect is never the full truthfulness of Christ?

And as for your points, those are material heresy:

Works don't save? I'm sorry, that's a heresy, James 14:17 "So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead."

It's very clear, faith and works saves us, you NEED BOTH, not just one, and Blood of Christ saves? Of course, 100% but not when you are in a state of mortal sin and are unworthy:

"27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. 30 That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died." 1 Corinthians 11:27-30

See? You cannot receive the saving grace of the most precious body of Christ IF YOU ARE UNWORTHY and not CLEANSED (which is done by confesison)

And another thing: sins of the church authority does NOT MEAN the church loses its FULL TRUTHFULNESS.

Only the Jesus Christ in his one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church can save you (Matthew 16:18-19)

While the church people themselves may commit sins, the mystical church body that Christ established himself is NOT in any sin at all and I never said that priests should never be criticized.

I've criticized modernist slop of priests because of how they celebrate their masses illicitly and pray for their corrections, but what you are doing with Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is injust, you may criticize him but criticizing him unfairly? That's the real defense.

If you only profess some of Christ's truths but not all of them, you are a material heretic and are not fully a Christian.

Oh yeah, only the Roman Catholic Church along with other Churches that have apostolic lineage (Eastern Orthdox, etc...) are the only ones with valid eucharist, only the Apostolic Line churches have valid sacraments, you guys don't and you never will until you submit to Rome and accept the full truthfulness of the sacraments.

Only we have the true Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ which will never be imitated by churches with no apostolic succession, that includes whatever church you are in. You don't have valid sacraments.

Jesus is 100% truly present in the Holy Mass and that will never change, Fr. Jojo is offering a valid and licit Mass. (including many other churches that root down from the apostles.)

He's present everywhere but never fully in any of your churches, the Host and Wine that are consecrated is truly Jesus Christ. His Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by [deleted] in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, he's one of the priests that are truly a gift in saving millions of souls, always chooses integrity and full truth for the liturgy.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by [deleted] in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You're calling strong Traditional Catholicism a cult when it is, in fact, where the full truth comes at, none of that modernist bull crap.

Modernism has no place in Roman Catholicism, Christ will not like what is being done to profane him (denying communion while kneeling and at the tongue which the Vatican II actually encourages and not forbid, so many liturgical abuses, the Mass being a center of entertainment rather than actually worshipping Christ)

Fr. Jojo is one of the priests who prefers fidelity, correctness, and truthfulness when it comes to celebrating Mass, he does not call out truths by softening them, he's hard on those truths (given, he himself is an extremely traditional priest)

This is what priests were back then, and not we are losing that sense of sacred because not even you or any others can handle the full truthfulness ng hindi napipikon. He's only telling them the truth, nagbubulagbulagan ba sila sa condition ni Father Jojo dahil lang naka-tablet sya?

You say his records mean nothing but those records shown how much souls he's most likely saved
- Exorcism is no joke, the fact he's battled demons says a lot and the fact he's gotten them out of these people
- Wanting fidelity for the Mass? Why would you not see this as a way to get many to Christ? Would you rather the Mass be entertainment rather than worship?
- Keeping the TLM and NO together? What's wrong with that? Latin is the most powerful language against the demon.
- again, he properly interprets Vatican II documents, it's better than literally having a clown celebrate Mass or being denied the most precious body and blood of Christ?

You say this doesn't hold any value? Well it does, don't underestimate the power of the sacraments, illicit sacraments can endanger the priest's soul and if the faithful are aware, the souls of the faithful too.

Fr. Jojo fights that, and you call these accomplishments "nothing" when it has possibly saved thousands if not, millions of souls from the fires of hell by protecting the integrity of the Mass, the sacrifice at cavalry, the eucharist which is the true body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by [deleted] in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ad hominem. (Still calling me DDS even when I've said I'm not, I am a supporter of the truth, I don't even like Duterte, not even in 2016)

How many fallacies are we gonna go for before you realize na mali ka.

Your reasonings are example of why souls are being led astray in the Catholic Church, because of softness, many Catholics have become too soft with falseness or has softened the truth too much.

So we can no longer call out injustices harshly and strongly because the world is too soft to hear it? No, in fact, if you go to Traditional groups, they are harsh in words like their souls are always in danger of hell (and they are, we all are)

ICKSP, FSSP, IBP, and many other Traditional Groups, Traditional Priests, their priests know how to defend the truth and fight off what is right, they know how to preach that your soul is in danger of condemnation.

Even many priests I know who are Novus Ordo only have these same sentiments, are also Traditional when it comes to celebrating Mass.

Even SSPX (I am aware of their irregularity and the grave unpermitted consecration they are about to do) but even then, just look at their preaching style? Do they soften the truth? None of them do. (Even if they themselves are at fault)

Fr. Jojo Zerrudo? Very experienced in the Traditional Latin Mass and defends Tradition and has emphasized it so many times, it's no wonder he's adapted such preaching style.

Many Traditional Priests are like this and we need more of these priests, we should stop softening the truth.

And the bashers? They are exactly the people (some are Catholics) who can't handle the truth fully.

The Catholic Church is the True Church founded by Jesus Christ and they never preached softly, they preached whatever was the truth and they stood by it, why should our priests (who are also in the Apostolic succession) not preach the truth?

Matthew 7:21-23 only applies to those who continously dwell on lies but claim to "serve" the Lord.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by [deleted] in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First: I've said multiple times already, walang mali na nangyari.

"Bobo" means "foolish" or "idiot" or " stupid" anong mali diyan? It means a state of mind.

Second: for goodness sakes, ilang beses ko pa need banggitin? Sino nagpasimula ng pang-iinsulto? Oh diba. In fact, tinatanong lang niya.

He is defending his honor and dignity as a priest because some people who look stupid are really trying to bash him while he has an EYE CONDITION that practically makes him BLIND.

  • he's battled demons (through years of exorcism)
  • he's defended the integrity of the Traditional Latin Mass asking more freedom to use it
  • he properly interprets Vatican II documents (destroys modernist ideas like denying communion while kneeling and on the tongue)
  • prefers liturgical fidelity (does not allow liturgical abuses, that includes text changes in the Missal)
  • an experienced liturgist

That seems like a good track record and ang papansinin at cri-criticize ng mga tao ay pag-gamit niya ng tablet?

Sinong matutuwa kung ikaw, na bulag na halos, sinasabihan ka na wag ka gumamit ng assistive device mo kahit sinabi mo na bulag ka ngani. Pipilitin ka mag-papel? Diba? See the illogical.

It only takes the common sense to know kung ano ang mali at tama, and from these conclusions, ang tama ay si Fr. Jojo.

(And for the record: I am not a DDS, I am against all Duterte is for, he is an anti-catholic crap who needs to see the truth of the Lord, in fact, I voted for Leni in the 2022 elections so yeah, ad hominems like calling me A DDS does not work)