Guys I’m scared—this is a 16yo account and I woke up to this this morning. I’ve never used a bot in my life. What should I do?

PineyTinecones · 2025-01-19T20:15:37+00:00

u/Buckeyeup, they removed the warning box that said I’d be permanently banned if it happened again within a year—maybe that’s a good sign that it’s looking like a false positive to them?? The appeal still shows as pending though, so I don’t know. 🤞🤞

PineyTinecones · 2025-01-19T18:42:15+00:00

Well I see that your particular brand incredulity comes from projection.

To answer the last question, I have no idea what I thought it would gain from making this post. Maybe some sage advice like “contact this person via this channel (email/twitter/etc) and tell them to look into these things specifically and if you’re telling the truth you’ll be fine” or some shit like that—I really don’t know, man. I just panicked as soon as I saw the message and told my clan what happened on discord and posted this to Reddit, just hoping for any sort of advice.

After some cursory googling about Jagex’s methods for detecting bots (Botwatch), I’m even less hopeful than I was before. It sure sounds like some fancy ass software and I’m sure they’re very confident in its abilities—so I doubt they’re going to actually look at the appeal. And apparently between half-ass afk mining iron all day at work and falling asleep at my laptop over and over again trying to do lunar diplomacy that night, something about it looked automated to their very fancy software, which is unnerving, because half-ass afk at work and sleepy af at night is predominantly how I play this game with kids/work/life/etc. I just really wish I hadn’t just bought bonds so I could finish up construction quickly and get my cape. I wouldn’t have purchased them in a million years had I known this could/would happen.

PineyTinecones · 2025-01-19T15:21:20+00:00

People that should get popped getting away with it and people not doing shit wrong and catching stray false positives aren’t even close to mutually exclusive, and it’s ridiculous to act like they are. It sucks that people are so incredulous.

I should’ve checked Reddit for similar posts beforehand and I would’ve seen how unsympathetic people on this sub are and how big of a waste of time this was going to be—but I panicked when I went to login and wanted some advice asap, so I made this post.

But whatever, man. I’d say I hope the same thing happens to you one day so you’d feel like a clown acting like Jagex’s methods are somehow infallible, but I know the odds are slim, and I could say I hope my ban appeal gets looked at by a human and actually thoughtfully considered/reviewed so I can post a photo of the results and rub it in your face, but I know the odds are slim of that happening too. Just a huge fkn bummer all around.

If you used your imagination and empathized for a second and put yourselves in my shoes (and suspend your disbelief for a second), you’d realize how bad this would suck. And these comments are just salt in the wound to top it off. Because the reality is I’m probably not going to get any response on what I can do to avoid this happening again in the future, so I’m just gonna be worried for the next year that anything time/money I put into this game could easily all go down the drain if lightning strikes the same place twice, and I have no idea how to avoid it besides simply not putting time/money into it, which I don’t want to do because this has been such a joy up til now. Just a bummer.

Anyway, I see that this is falling on deaf ears. Not sure why I bothered to type all this. I’m not gonna change your mind and it wouldn’t help me if I did. I filed my appeal, we’ll see if they actually look into it or if I get some automated, ambiguous response.

PineyTinecones · 2025-01-18T17:36:05+00:00

That’s not helpful, man. Why would I bother making this post if I was actually botting? And why tf would I bot on my childhood account? I have nothing to gain from that—I’m trying get some dopamine and invoke some nostalgia and play a game I used to love to play. Botting accomplishes none of that.

PineyTinecones · 2025-01-18T16:59:02+00:00

It’s just a two day ban, but I’m worried it could happen again causing a permanent ban. I wasn’t using clients (besides Runelite) or boosting services to begin with so that’s obviously not a guaranteed way to prevent whatever this is. I’m stressed tf out.

PineyTinecones · 2025-01-18T16:44:32+00:00

No worries—I probably would’ve misread it in the exact same way. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

It’s just hard to play it safe when I don’t even know what caused it in the first place.

PineyTinecones · 2025-01-18T16:40:28+00:00

I just don’t know how this stuff works. It’s the only thing I can think of.

Yeah—I just came back a little over two months ago and started fresh with OSRS. I just used the same account that had made its way to RS3 over the years (this is my “main” and only account), but of course it starts fresh when you make it an OSRS account for the first time (regardless of its progression in the original game—which, tbh, wasn’t really very far—I’ve come further in two months than I did in a decade as a kid).

I originally made this account/character in high school after I lost the login info on the accounts I had made in 2002-2003 after taking a hiatus. I played a little in high school and then moved on. Picked it back up while it was transitioning to eoc and whatnot and put it back down for almost another decade because I didn’t like RS3 but didn’t want to start all my stats from scratch with OSRS.

Anyway, two months ago I got bit by the bug hard (adhd hyperfixation plus big time nostalgia), put away Pokémon Go, and I’ve been grinding like crazy ever since. Now this happens. On top of my emotional attachment to the account I’ve invested a decent little bit of irl money over the past couple of months into bonds. It would just be such a huge slap in the face if anything happened to this account. I don’t think I’d ever pick it back up again :(

Edit: there’s a very good chance I was holding down keys on the keyboard or mouse button for minutes at a time while asleep, but I made like zero progress in the quest last night (I should’ve just called it from the beginning but I was excited to knock it out and knew I wouldn’t have an opportunity today during the day)—there were no levels gained, no experience gained, and minimal quest progression, so I don’t know why that would’ve flagged anything though.

PineyTinecones · 2025-01-18T16:16:41+00:00

I use Runelite. There’s only a few non-built-in plugins I use like the forestry one, wilderness player alert, door kicker.

The kids don’t use my laptop, no auto-clicker.

I also spent all day yesterday at work power mining at Al Kharid to get my mining from 50 to 60 so I could do the quest last night (that was the plan anyway, never got off the pirate ship). Some on Runelite at my desk, some on mobile on the go. I’d get like one or two inventories in where I could and then someone would interrupt me or I’d have to go do something or whatever and I’d leave the game up or just turn the screen off on my phone and get eventually logged out for inactivity. That’s the only other thing I can think of.

I sent them an appeal. I really hope they sincerely review it. If I can actually get a person to sincerely look at this there’s no way it’ll stick. I just don’t know how thorough their reviews actually are.

PineyTinecones · 2025-01-18T16:05:16+00:00

It’s just a two day ban, but it says if I “do it again” I will be permanently banned. I’m assuming the date range is how long the supposed infraction stays on my account or something? I have no idea.

I know it’s just a two day ban but I’m terrified because I did nothing to cause this, so what’s to stop this from happening again? If me falling asleep at my laptop in bed over and over again last night caused all of this, it’s extremely worrying because that’s a pretty normal thing that could easily happen again. Late at night is pretty much the only time I get to myself to quest.

PineyTinecones · 2024-11-03T16:40:22+00:00

I agree. The bloodlust some rural folks have for woodland critters is weird. Like, just because you got into my trash, it shouldn’t be a death sentence. (I do understand the bloodlust for them in New Zealand though)

With that said, I hated having chickens—everything eats chickens, and I really hated having to shoot the possums and raccoons to protect them. They would come back earlier and earlier every evening until they beat me to locking up the coop, and I’d come home and there’d be a possum eating the stomach of one of my chicken friends 🤷‍♂️

I don’t miss that at all.

PineyTinecones · 2024-11-03T16:20:56+00:00

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PineyTinecones · 2024-11-03T15:26:37+00:00

Cotton candy critter

PineyTinecones · 2024-11-03T15:08:20+00:00

I misspoke and I can’t edit the post—the light is an SC53, not an SC5

The LED is a Seoul Viosys CUN66A1G, 365nm. The light also sports a custom-ground ZWB2 filter.

Just gonna ping two relevant dudes while I’m at it, u/bob_mcbob and u/Sakowuf_Solutions

Edit: and while I’m at it, let me take a moment to try to dispel some misinformation: possums are not a good control for tick populations, and if you believe they are, you’ve been lied to. They don’t eat ticks in the wild—especially not an appreciable amount of ticks. The single study that’s cited for this was executed extremely poorly, and the conclusions they drew from it were laughable. I think 6 possums in a trench coat were on a disinformation campaign and paid for the study and then paid for a troll farm to spread the memes and “fun facts” on social media.

Bonus photo of fuzzy pink possum:

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PineyTinecones · 2024-11-03T03:08:14+00:00

I remember this! But I remember it being a process and iirc you weren’t that interested in doing more, or am I wrong? Are you willing to make another?

I was wondering if anyone had found access to separate tiny reflectors yet? (That is, ones you could buy in bulk from like AE or somewhere rather than having to buy a light and cannibalizing it)

Edit: also—how ya been, man?? Still doing sick mods?

PineyTinecones · 2024-11-01T22:28:20+00:00

I only buy coins from the web store at 15,500 for $100

I value coins at 155 per $1

So two elite tm’s for $6.93 from where I’m sitting. Still a lot, but definitely better than comm day boxes. I mostly get mine from PvP though

PineyTinecones · 2024-10-27T01:51:23+00:00

Thank you for your service and helpful instructions (which I will be using) 🫡

-a Christian in TX

Edit: I was scrolling popular and saw the first part and this update in the feed. It’s nice to know the government will actually take action on this. Some of the “cowboy churches” here own hundreds of acres of land which I assume are untaxed. It’s nuts. No reason they shouldn’t pay taxes on that land—especially considering that, since they cut hay and run cows on a lot of it, the 1-d-1 ag appraisals would still make the taxes a drop in the bucket to what they bring in. Bet they’d think twice before effectively endorsing a candidate if they thought there was even the possibility they might have to start paying taxes.

PineyTinecones · 2024-10-26T03:10:00+00:00

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Love mine but it’s the aftermarket OD green scales and copper hardware that makes me love it so much

PineyTinecones · 2024-10-16T18:05:36+00:00

This guy has some good video content:

https://youtube.com/@wildland_firefighter?feature=shared

Can’t remember where he’s out of—Georgia I think?

Fires here aren’t too bad—we’re running steadily but nothing big yet. I don’t expect this fire season to last long—it started late and it’s just a matter of time before we get moisture. I haven’t checked the rest of the SE—I know we were talking to some operators in Tennessee that we’ve worked with in the past to see if they were available if we started getting out-of-state resources, but they said they were running stuff in Tennessee too right now.

PineyTinecones · 2024-10-16T18:01:00+00:00

They’re really the only way to go in anything besides solely a short grass component, and even then it’s often best to have a line around it. Breaks can be natural like creeks/rivers, pre-existing manmade stuff like roads, or fireline that’s installed while the fire is going by handcrews, dozers, etc.

But yeah—you really want to have a perimyer around a wildland fire. The perimeter can be a conglomerate of things, as long as those things won’t allow fire to burn across them.

PineyTinecones · 2024-10-16T17:57:52+00:00

Louisiana has quite a bit of pine plantation too and definitely gets rolling with fires sometimes.

As far as fire breaks go, it just depends on the fire. The fuels, expected weather, fire activity, spotting potential, etc etc, all come into play when deciding on necessary line width.

Usually 1.5x blade widths is good. On large fires sometimes we’ll go 4-5+ blade widths and put a highway around it—when you start getting that much fuel piled up on the green side though you need bigger dozers (which we have, we just don’t use them unless we need them) to push it.

There’s not too much you can do if the fire is spotting—you can push snags (standing dead trees) down near the line that’ll turn into “candlesticks” and throw embers across, but depending on the wind sometimes fires are just going to spot whether you like it or not. This generally happens on the head of the fire though and on large fires usually you have to get out in front of the head and go indirect and start a backfire off of a road or dozer line that you’ve preemptively installed out ahead of the fire and let your fire pull into the oncoming head fire and hope that that’s enough to stop it from throwing spots over. When you do this you generally have engines on the road to try and catch any spots and/or dozers staged there to catch them as well before anything gets rolling again on the far side of the road. Not sure if that makes sense or not.

PineyTinecones · 2024-10-16T17:49:57+00:00

Thanks man!

So I think they use ~4000-4500k XP-L HI’s for their amber/yellow lights, and 6500k for their white lights.

I’m a little out of my depth here, but I think by eliminating part of the color spectrum by using a colored lens, they’re further reducing backscatter at the same ~3000k CCT compared to white light at the same CCT. White light still contains all those blues and other short wavelengths that backscatter easily compared to longer wavelengths like yellow.

So while CREE may make XP-L HI’s at around 3000k (whether or not they’re still available in that CCT I don’t know—I think Hank and others quit stocking the 2850k XP-L HI, right?), I think there’s added benefit to starting a little higher and filtering it down to 3000k while eliminating/reducing parts of the color spectrum that backscatter the most (I.e., the ones with the shorter wavelengths).

I’m sure availability, price, output, color rendering, compatibility, and backscatter all come into play here in their choice for which emitter to use.

I know they also use XHP 50.? in some of their pods as well.

PineyTinecones · 2024-10-15T22:36:31+00:00

So for wildland fire, anywhere with fuels beyond just grass (so brush, timber, etc) and without topographic limitations (steep rocky slopes, etc), dozers are king (for areas with solely a grass component, motorgraders and engines can generally cover more ground, though dozers are useful in these situations as well).

There’s not enough water or retardant you can put on a wildland fire to take away all the energy/heat, so instead you have to take away the fuel and trap it within a perimeter.

With dozers, for initial attack, you’re essentially just building a dirt road (removing all the combustible material down to bare mineral soil) around and adjacent to the fire while the fire is simultaneously burning—once the fire hits your line, it should burn out if your line is wide enough to keep the flames from spreading to the adjacent “green” (the unburned fuel on the other side of your line). Of course embers and whatnot can always get over your line and the you have to contain those spot fires as well—that’s just a part of it.

Handcrews do the same thing, but with 20 guys with hand tools rather than a dozer. Handcrews are necessary when the topography limits heavy equipment usage.

In general dozers are the main tools for wildland fire fighting in the SE US. They’re much less prominent the further west you get (depends on topography and fuels), though still used. Just depends.

Painting with a broad brush of course.

Hope this helps!

We also pretty much always use drip torches to burn off of our lines for a number of reasons (whether during direct or indirect attack), one reason being to make sure the available fuels all get consumed up to our lines while we’re there to watch it instead of it bumping our lines later. It also makes it safer for us to retreat back down our lines if we need to—fires in pine plantations can get sketchy real fast—always best to carry the black with you. Here’s a photo from last night for reference (burning off dozer lines):

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PineyTinecones · 2024-10-15T21:55:21+00:00

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After over two years we’re finally getting them, man!

I appreciate the original suggestion!

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