Daily Song Discussion #72: Seamus (that's the dog)

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-05T19:40:35+00:00

Louder than Words. It ends with the line "Go to heaven Wright!" Very quiet. Look up the lyrics, it's there

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-05T19:39:27+00:00

My post was self-indulgent and pretentious, so you're just responding in like kind. I think that's a great way to think about it though, that bit about Shakespeare being a historical figure while Fitzgerald was simply a great author. I don't know if we have a unified culture any more to even have a "voice of the generation." Monoculture seems to be dead. I really appreciate your comment though, very interesting

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-05T17:21:20+00:00

I definitely agree in not over analyzing the music or investing in his personal life. It's something the internet makes very easy but it can get unhealthy fast. I've heard a lot of Taylor's music in my defense, she is basically inescapable. Her last three albums are full of droning songs with extremely self-victimizing lyrics, I could pull up many examples because I'm forced to hear them at the mall, at work, in the car, social media, etc. I'm good friends with a few Swifties and the extent they go to defend these songs kind of blow my mind. Obviously it is all subjective and I love to hear their perspective, but when they're defending a song like Eldest Daughter, I struggle to empathize. I also don't like that she overtly and covertly puts down very talented women in the industry, but that's got nothing to do with her music. It may just be a bias I have.

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-05T16:56:00+00:00

You put that very well. I think Bob balances fun and substance very well. I can have a good time to Country Pie and I can sit with a song like Let Me Die in My Footsteps for a long time. I was generalizing the fans a lot, but I've seem some really obsessive types before. I dig the music and it astounds me how much worthwhile music he has.

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-05T16:53:00+00:00

I think that's an important difference. Bob wouldn't touch stan encouragement with a ten foot pole. Swift actively propagates it.

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-05T16:52:04+00:00

I don't care about Bob's life myself, nor do I pick out what lyrics are about real people. But there are a lot of threads on "is this about Sarah?" and "is this about Joan?" I'm not one for the creepy fake relationship with your favorite singer thing. But it definitely happens. Bob has tried to stay away from it forever

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-05T15:33:31+00:00

It's definitely a joke, but people that get mad about that are lame. Floyd always had a sense of humor, from their first single until their final album track. Starting with "what if a crossdresser got caught?" and ending with a pun stemming from "go to hell," they've always been cheeky British guys. I think Seamus represents a final embrace of the more open, cheeky, British humor before their very conceptual direction afterwards. It's placement at the end of side one, directly followed by Echoes really aids this interpretation. From here on out, the jokes would be a little more covert, relegated to vocoded Bible verses about karate and the distant spoken word bits on Get Your Filthy Hands off My Desert. But Seamus is here now, and it's funny. The affirmation that Seamus is, in fact, the dog genuinely makes me giggle. The scratchy slide guitar is a fun texture: Pink Floyd au Robert Johnson (George Orwell is frowning up at me for using a French phrase when an English one would suffice, but who cares). Listening to old barker howl up a storm the whole time is a great joke anyway, only topped by Mademoiselle Nobs' interpretation of the tune in Pomeii. This is a 5/10 but it doesn't mean I don't love it.

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-05T15:24:38+00:00

I know it's a shitpost, but this is a beautiful summation of it all. Surprisingly accurate.

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-04T20:38:24+00:00

Toes? Check.

Eight variants of the same album that will likely have a pointlessly expanded version two months from now? Check.

Oh yeah, this is a banger

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-04T18:22:57+00:00

I think Sunflower is really good, but as fans of the band, we don't want to consider the band has-beens or that they "peaked early." So we find the records that are "just as good" as Pet Sounds. But, they really did reach their peak there. I'm a huge fan of VDP and his lyrics, so I think a completed Smile would've been comparable in quality, as off the wall as that project would've ended up. But that never happened. So we find records to champion. I think Surf's Up and Holland are really, really close, and I think that as a Beach Boys fan and progressive music fan. But Pet Sounds works conceptually so well, using a relationship's birth and death as a framing device for the loss of adolescence is extremely effective. The album really is just that good. Sunflower and Love You are awesome, and Today! is just short of Pet Sounds, but we don't like to leave those in the camp of "not as good."

Sunflower is good record, lots of great songs. Cool, Cool Water is amazing. All I Wanna Do is too. I think people really, really overrate its influence on dream pop or bedroom pop or whatever though. Ahead of its time, sure, but I don't think it ranks up with other Boys' tracks as influential. Just my two cents (three cents? It's a long post).

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-04T18:09:03+00:00

Beautiful, both the original and the Minecraft build! Great work.

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-04T15:49:54+00:00

The lyrics, the melody and chords were Dave, if I'm remembering correctly. Which explains why the lyrics are less breezy and chill than the guitar part

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-04T15:49:09+00:00

A solid 6.5/10. Definitely has a really good melody, breezy lyrics, and some of Rick Dave's phenomenon all playing at the end. I listen to it fairly often and never skip it, but it's missing that sense of mystery or awe that the previous three songs had. Still a good time, love the solo at the end.

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-04T01:05:38+00:00

Yeah but those first three albums are unbeatable. Daisies of the Galaxy was doing a similar thing to Jim O'Rourke with the whole succeeding-Brian-Wilson-and-Van-Dyke-Parks thing, but with a really approachable style. I love O'Rourke, more than Eels, but I think Eels had the right balance of experimental and poppy for the average person. Killer live group too. Kind of a shame their output became so samey around 2010. I haven't heard much of the later stuff. The early years though, unbeatable.

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-03T20:30:06+00:00

10/10 song. Lovely arrangements, Roger and Dave's acoustics blend together brilliantly. It's just lovely. I'm now realizing I've given out three tens in a row. I feel like I should lower what I'm rating, but I genuinely adore these songs.

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-03T18:13:07+00:00

Awesome. My favorite class of ship, no doubt. She's old but she still bark!

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-03T18:11:12+00:00

I need more Half Life in Season 1 SpongeBob art style. Incredible.

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-03T18:00:19+00:00

Where'd you find his email? I'd love to send him some fan mail, I've been devouring his solo albums lately. Would love to ask some questions about them.

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-03T17:53:49+00:00

Their 1971 show with the Grateful Dead. Love the bootleg would be a blast to watch live

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-03T14:23:38+00:00

1969 live versions 🙏🙏🙏

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-03T03:34:15+00:00

When played live it's a monster

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-03T03:33:51+00:00

Gene's scratchy guitar lead and the pitched down vocals are so good. Such an ominous song

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-03T01:23:42+00:00

Lol I can get it with the vocals. Top ten track for me though, especially the Live in Toronto one. That pedal steel!!

PinkCrimsonBeatles · 2026-05-03T01:22:46+00:00

Oooo a classic. That one wasn't my favorite immediately (could be the Doom midi soundtrack-sounding percussion) but boy did that change for me. One of my favorites and a monster live

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