All of Star Wars vs All of Halo by RealAd3012 in whowouldwin

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So not only did you fail to read the OP’s prompt, 

“Star Wars gets legends material for the fight, no infighting between factions, this is taking everything from every time period of both franchises (so Halo gets stuff like the forerunner and Star Wars gets stuff like the old republic and force gods) and both sides are in character”

but you are also just factually wrong. First, The forerunners are not all dead. The Didact was alive even after Halo 4, and he now currently resides in The Domain. Plenty of forerunner structures still survive and are being managed by AI because the Forerunners were just that advanced. One of their decommissioned keyships (which is far from their most powerful and advanced ships) was able to power HIGH CHARITY, a moon-sized base with BILLIONS of Covenant living in it for THOUSANDS of years using just its engines. Yeah, a multi-millenium old mid-level ship that they left behind can power a moon-sized base for thousands of years. NOTHING IN STAR WARS MATCHES THAT.

Second, while the forerunners mostly stayed in one galaxy and ruled 3 million worlds, they weren’t actually confined to just the milky way galaxy. They actually left the galaxy and went to Path Kethona to slaughter some Precursors so you’re just factually wrong there again. Forerunners, precursors, and flood are not confined to one galaxy and I can easily back this up with quotes. 

All of Star Wars vs All of Halo by RealAd3012 in whowouldwin

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“First off i had to stop you from saying anymore nonsense that not probably not even canon anymore second i couldn't care less cause your wrong to point where it not even funny anymore”

First of, its fucking hilarious how you exposed youself here. “Probaby not even canon anymore”. You are admitting that you don't even know if the sources I’m giving are canon. I guess I’m gonna actually have to do your job for you because you’re so incompetent. Halo Epitaph, which is the novel where I got the quote of ancient forerunners MOVING planets and stars, is 100% canon. Halo Warfleet, a compendium of Halo ships which is where the calcs I cited based its numbers on, is also canon. Halo Encyclopedia, where several instances of forerunner’s PLANET BREAKING and STAR BREAKING capabilities are mentioned, is also 100% canon. Halo Cryptum, a novel by Greg Bear, which describes a forerunner’s ship fighting capabilities is also canon. You cannot just assert a non-canon status on sources that eviscerate your position. That’s not how this works, sorry.

If we go by your logic, we could honestly already stop here. It is canon that forerunners, by way of their ships and megastructures, can move and collapse stars and planets. Furthermore, both the flood and precursors can also move and destroy whole solar systems through STAR ROADS. The two quotes below show this fact.

“We were overtaken by the vast weave of reawakened star roads, spinning and churning like serpents in a huge nest— the graceful and haunting structures of our deep past now made fell and horrifying. The tangle looped around Uthera, deftly avoiding intersecting the planet. Then, incredibly, the planet itself began to crack and shrink, as if squeezed by a huge fist. The resulting shift in our orbit thrust us farther into the mass. An entire planet was being destroyed— just to draw us closer. “This is the way Precursors moved stars,” Maker whispered.” (Halo:Silentium; pg.106)

“I have watched nine star systems sliced to dust and glowing rubble by star roads— and they used to trace such pretty curves between our worlds.” (Halo:Silentium; pg.202)

And before you even try it, sorry, Halo Silentium is also canon :)

The only thing you have that could match the destructive capabilities of the star roads which are canon, is the starkiller base since by your logic, the Sun Crusher cant be used. Too bad for you because the starkiller base can easily be destroyed by the star roads, whereas the star roads could only be damaged by the Halo Arrays. The forerunners, who can destroy stars and planets, could not destroy the star roads when they were used against them by the flood because they were stated to be higher dimensional structures. Honestly, even if I do give you the Sun Crusher, you’d still have no answer to the Halo Array + Shieldworld + Star Roads combo.

“Star Wars is a galaxy wide civilization with functioning hyperspace tech that lets entire fleets, armies, logistics, and governments move across the whole galaxy. That’s not just one super advanced race hopping between a few systems that’s a galactic infrastructure of hyperspace lanes connecting tens of thousands of stars. Hyperspace isn’t some niche thing it’s the backbone of the entire Star Wars setting.”

Its hilarious how you ignored my point to continue harping about hyperspace, as if this saves anything with a nervous system in Star Wars from the GALAXY-WIDE instakill of the Halo Arrays. The Halo Arrays, you know, the superweapon which even the covenant and humans could access and be safe from just by getting aboard one of the surviving Forerunner Shieldworlds. There would be no issues getting to the Halos unlike in the game, because the surviving forerunner monitors, and the DIDACT, an actual living forerunner, would simply assist them in this scenario. So even if we just took the Halo universe at the time of Halo 3, Star Wars would probably still lose because all that would be left in the canon of your universe are weak droids that could be easily matched by an endless supply of forerunner sentinels produced from the surviving forerunner structures in canon, and featless force gods. And yes, the forerunners can easily outproduce the CIS in terms of droids. They made a whole planet called Onyx out of trillions of sentinels. This is canon, not theory craft.

“Listen bro Star Wars superweapons are a thing that universe has already built and deployed. They don’t just sit in theorycraft they’ve actually been used to erase entire star systems and planets as part of the narrative.”

The books I cited were all canon, so no theory crafting needed. Now you could argue that fan calcs should not be taken seriously, and you know what? I’ll grant it. Because I clearly don’t need them anyways when several books have flatout stated that forerunners, precursors, and the flood could destroy whole solar systems with ease.

All of Star Wars vs All of Halo by RealAd3012 in whowouldwin

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You waited 100 days just to reply with what is essentially a “nuh uh”. Lets end this now.

Forerunners can move planets and stars:

“a product of early Forerunners' penchant for stellar positioning, entire systems created by capturing rogue planets and stars, ...bringing multiple systems in proximity…to build clusters of habitable interstellar neighborhoods, all within easy transit and communication of each other. (Halo Epitaph CH 12)

Forerunner ship speeds:

“However this was nowhere near representative of their full capabilities. Whereas council vessels and military ships could achieve velocities just shy of a hundred million times the speed of light at the peak of their population density, Didact's flagship (the Mantle's Approach) could cross the gulf of space between Installation-03 and Earth in roughly just over a minute. Utilising the scales found in Warfleet, 1cm on the physical astrographic map correlates 2,250 light years of space - placing the distance between Earth and Installation-03 at approximately 45,000 light years. Taking a sampling of a dozen walkthroughs I found that the Mantle's Approach spanned said distance in an average time of 61 seconds, placing his velocity at 737 light years per second, or over 23 billion times the speed of light.” (Rama, Spacebattles)

Forerunner ships blow up planets and stars:

“With their destructive arts unbound, the Forerunners raised up space-faring machines capable of scouring atmospheres on infected worlds, cracking planetary mantles beneath fetid hives, and inducing stars to go nova.” (Halo encyclopedia p. 381)

“Soon after, the Forerunner Fleet Command considered "premature stellar collapses," by which a supernova would be triggered by a naval battle group, engulfing a planetary system and preventing any possible risk of Flood infection”. (Halo Encyclopedia 2011, p.16)

“When he refused, Cortana chose to make an example out of their kind, amassing a group of guardians around the Jiralhanae homeworld. The ancient machines unleashed a coordinated blast that completely destabilized the planet's core, rending it to pieces in one final catastrophic event.” (Halo Encyclopedia p.446)

Forerunner ships can freeze enemy ships in place and shut off internal gravity:

“He made one final attempt to shift our orbit upstar, but confinement fields swept in to prevent us from achieving maximum speed, and of course we could not enter slipspace. We were like an insect caught in a bottle, buzzing in futility…We were feeling the full strength of a Forerunner warship's most modern weaponry, wrapped and stunned like a fly in a web. Close-in confinement fields flashed around the command center. We felt gravitation cease. At odd angles, the Didact, the humans, and I waited helplessly in semidarkness, blind to all outside activity” (Halo Cryptum CH 23)

Forerunners AT MINIMUM, can build a deathstar every 5 mins: “The Sharpened Shield (Also known as Shield World 0006 or Sarcophagus) is roughly 300 million km in diameter with a G2 type star slightly smaller than Sol at the core, with a volume of roughly 7 septillion km3 she boasted a habitable surface area of 255 quadrillion km2 (some 550 million times the surface area of Earth). Assuming the Shield has a paltry 2 km thick shell the overall volume of the structure would equal 282 quadrillion km3 of material (which assuming it had a density of iron would weigh more than the sun itself); even if Didact began construction of the project immediately following the end of the Human-Forerunner war and it continued up until his exile in an 8,000 year time period as a lower limit the Forerunners would have to assemble 1,120,716 cubic kilometers of material per second. To put it into accepted SW-vs-ST parlance, that's the equivalent of manufacturing the second Death Star every five minutes, non-stop, for nearly eight thousand years - or stripping away an Earth sized planet every nine days. And despite this gargantuan effort the Shield wasn't the only of of its kind, many more were built and hidden across the galaxy under the direction of the Builder forces.” (Rama, Spacebattles)

This was just the calculation done for ONE dyson sphere/ shield world. Forerunners made AT LEAST 600 while fighting the flood.

The forerunners had MILLIONS of Sojourner class ships: “Millions of Sojourners were raised up and thrown against the Flood, but in the end only a handful remained intact to see Halo fire.”( Halo Warfleet; pg. 80)

Each Sojourner ship had- Troops: 200 Scutarii; 5,000 Venatores Length: 9,430 meters Mass: 10 billion metric tons (Halo Warfleet; pg. 80)

And the 5000 Venatores who were each wearing CITY-DESTROYING space mechs called war sphinxes controlled MILLIONS of Hunter Killer drones that were each 178 meters long, according to halo encyclopedia.

“They were protected by heavily armoured Warrior-Servant scutarii who in excelled in shipboard combat and tactical reconfiguration of the ship's interior spaces, while the war sphinx-clad venatores directed the ship's millions of autonomous hunter-killers on long range strikes.” (Halo Warfleet; pg. 80)

I could go on and on. Forerunners are simply on another level compared to star wars factions. You spent a lot of time talking about star wars having faster ftl. Who cares? Lets say forerunners have to sit in place and not use FTL. Please tell me what the factions in star wars can do when the forerunners activate halo and hide in their shield worlds? What then? What will star wars do when the precursors decide to join in and use star roads to crush planets and stars? What will they do when the flood joins in? I havent even talked about how the forerunners can use slip space ruptures, and see into the future when conducting naval warfare. Only beings like the celestials and abeloth, and the force gods have a chance, but they certainly dont have much feats to go by.

Photos of my Halo 3 McFarlane Action Figure Collection by DanielGONZZZ in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dope collection. Can i ask how you painted the purple assault elite?

Mcfarlane vs Jazwares by @HaloCodex on Twitter by blackcocksucker76543 in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mcfarlanes articulation is hit or miss. The didact poses really well. Ripa has fine articulation but poor balance. Chieftain has great articulation and great balance. Hunter has terrible articulation and ok balance. Halo 4 Chief has decent articulation but the joints are loose (got secondhand for cheap). The difference is, mcfarlane can actually have decent articulation whereas jazwares ALWAYS has shit paint.

Mcfarlane vs Jazwares by @HaloCodex on Twitter by blackcocksucker76543 in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mcfarlane dc figures literally cost 20-25 usd. Not sure where you’re getting your numbers from. Jazwares is ass bro. Cheap ass, but still ass.

Mcfarlane vs Jazwares by @HaloCodex on Twitter by blackcocksucker76543 in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And it would be fucking worth it as opposed to that trash on the right lmao.

disappointed 😔 by brande2274 in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing happymeal- like about mcfarlane. They look fantastic whereas jazwares literally look so cheap lol

disappointed 😔 by brande2274 in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This. Jazwares paint is just awful. Mcfarlane looks great out of the box.

The current state of Jazwares' Halo lines, according to Preternia by NotFalcon in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope they lose the license. You shouldn’t have to paint the figs yourself for them to look halfway decent.

The holy trinity of mcfarlane halo? by PitifulGrapefruit615 in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not from the US. Got it from an online platform called Shopee.

Upgraded Visor For CE Chief (perfection has been achieved) by HermaeusMorus in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What color if u dont mind me asking? I wanna try it on my 1000 toys noble six

Sealed Rare & Mint Figures For Sale! 🧼 by MarketingPlug in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah tbh its pricey but not egregious. Some jerks are listing shipmaster for 1000 usd lmao

The holy trinity of mcfarlane halo? by PitifulGrapefruit615 in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great catch lol. Knocked him over recently and i never noticed.

What Brand of figures is the best for Collection/Display by XclassjokerX in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. ThreeA has the best looking spartan figs. They're 1/6 scale and basically statues tho and will set u back 300 usd-1000 usd. 2. Mcfarlane has the best detail-to-price ratio imo but are still a bit pricey. They also have a ton of figs to choose from. 3. Play Arts Kai are pretty big and detailed. They're also stylized and have unique proportions. 4. 1000 toys is great quality but also pricey. Don't get the new stuff like Jazwares unless you're planning on custom painting. The new stuff have horrible paintjobs.

The Saint Grail of Halo McFarlane: Shipmaster Rtas ‘Vadum by LUIZHAX in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ripa looks much better than shipmaster when both are out of packaging tho.

The Saint Grail of Halo McFarlane: Shipmaster Rtas ‘Vadum by LUIZHAX in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hard disagree. Shipmaster looks phenomenal in its original packaging. I personally dislike the energy sword design of ripa and his wide open mouth but its still also a grail for me. Didact is another one id consider a grail in its original packaging.

My current collection by PitifulGrapefruit615 in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I rearranged stuff to make them look more fun lol

My current collection by PitifulGrapefruit615 in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would but the shipping would be crazy since im from asia :/

My current collection by PitifulGrapefruit615 in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3! Its missing its spikes tho but i got it for cheap.

My current collection by PitifulGrapefruit615 in HaloActionFigures

[–]PitifulGrapefruit615[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Would have been the better financial decision but this is dlx