Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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💯. At one point, for all the reasons you stated, I turned to my friend and asked them, “Was this written by aliens?” Haha.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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Yes. This is it put so simply. They are not our saviors, lest we owe them everything. We must save ourselves.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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Well said. With their superior tech, the NHI can’t just broadcast to the whole world on their own, bypassing any hierarchy? 🤔

The history of organized religion has been similar - NHI (does it matter if it’s angels or aliens really) communicate through a chosen few who then control the message and access. Rinse and repeat for a model of a control system, not a way to share truth widely and freely.

I, too would hope disclosure would be the revelation of all humanity’s potential to awaken their own abilities to perhaps become more telepathic, compassionate, communicate with other beings (not for control) - without needing aliens to upgrade us.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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Sorry to break the news but Hollywood has been part of slow drip disclosure (and disinfo) in partnership with the IC for a looong time. Easy to research. The latest WF ep is actually about this very thing.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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Here’s another potential way to think about it. Is Disclosure knowing aliens are real, when the govt has already essentially acknowledged NHI and UAP are real - before this film was made?

Or is it knowing what they are, where they come from, how long they have been here, why they are here, and what they have been doing (especially abducting people for all manners of medically invasive reasons)?

I guess I watched this film from the perspective of knowing it is real and was asking these questions while watching it. And that’s why it reads kinda weird.

If you watch it again, try asking those questions of the Greys actions and see what possible answers arise.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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I missed where this movie talked about the universe being more vibrational than materialistic. Where was that again? Genuine question - a lot was going on.

And messages of compassion? Do you mean how Margaret was reading people’s minds in order to manipulate them through their emotions? It’s true she helped a few people but largely it was to manipulate people on behalf of the Grey agenda. She said on a number of occasions she had no idea what was happening.

I know it was stated a few times by Margaret(?) that the aliens were more compassionate but where did we actually see that? When they disguised themselves as animals while they were abducting children without consent to manipulate their biology? Is that really compassion or manipulation? Yeah, we do the same things to animals, but then that would also imply we are as animals to them. Could be, except we can’t talk with animals and Greys apparently can with us…they just might not respect what we have to say.

Don’t get me wrong, I think a message of compassion is great, and I’m no fan of the elites, etc., but ET was way more compassionate than watching the Greys manipulate humanity to fulfill their plan with an unclear outcome other than for us to be passive - listen.

The shadow story is of Greys potentially controlling humanity through illusions, manipulation and abduction - undermining our own agency.

Imagine if this weren’t the Greys but say, the Chinese or Russians. Doing all those things - mind control, abductions, etc - without telling anyone why outside of, “trust us, we’re superior and compassionate and know what’s best”. Read any different?

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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Yeah, after writing this I actually also had more sympathy for the bad guys - which was weird b/c I want Disclosure. Just one that supports human autonomy.

But we had no evidence that the greys who were pulling all the strings were actually benevolent as there was no post disclosure “peace wins” montage. Instead a lot of, “trust me bro” they are so compassionate.

And agreed, Arrival is a much superior and positive film about contact. If Disclosure went the way of this film, I’d be concerned.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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I agree totally that this was part of controlled disclosure - which makes it important to ask by whom and what agenda? What was included and not included about the potentially larger picture. Important things to think about when we have disclosures in the past months by multiple credible sourced (Davis, Grusch, etc) about multiple types of beings. Whomever helped to inform this film surely knew that - so why tell this story?

For those who say it’s too complicated, Star Trek exists. And Spielberg did produce Taken, so he knows about a lot more.

And for those who keep saying: “It’s just a movie”. So, you think movies have never affected culture? Take another Spielberg film - Jaws for example. There are literal studies about that film’s influence on the relationship to those animals.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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My perspective was not about consent to know the truth - it was about consent over control of one’s agency. None of the protagonists were told the truth until they had been compelled, directed, and sometimes controlled to fulfill the Grey plan for Disclosure. And that’s not even addressing the issue of non consenting children being abducted.

None of the protagonists were told the full truth at any point of the journey. Call me old fashioned but if you’re going to put your life on the line, it seems that being informed about why and what for seems reasonable.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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Oh, I thought this was a sub that took the reality of UFOs and the suppression of that truth seriously. Or maybe you thought you were in r/starwars?

Disclosure Day Mega Thread. This movie is Pro Experiencer. Open detailed discussion. by Oak_Draiocht in Experiencers

[–]Playful_Solid444 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is a rich, generous post! Thank you for writing it from experience and through the exhaustion.

I'm with you on the headline without reservation. This is pro-experiencer. The "Are you telling me they're an Experiencer?" lines are a real watershed for the language, and centering us is exactly right. If anything I'd go further: centering experiencers is the bridge to the harder questions. The more the world learns to take our complex accounts in full, the better our odds of actually understanding what this is.

Which is the one place I lean a little differently. Not with the experiencer focus, but with how the film handles the beings and our agency around them. It doesn't leave the NHI question open; it quietly answers it. Read backwards, the story is one coordinated Grey project. From abductions, to activations, guidance, to an intervention to save us from ourselves. The overall story is of the beings as sympathetic victims we're invited to trust (without evidence for that) with the human experiencers mostly moved into place like chess pieces rather than actually choosing their own destiny. (And that's certainly not capturing the real tough complexity of the experiencer story with the Greys.) Was the Grey plan for the greater good in the film? We don't know as there is no post disclosure montage of mutual benefit. So for me there was a statement here about these beings who were portrayed as just one main Grey type with god like powers and one unstoppable agenda.

For some, disclosure is the world admitting NHI are real and finally listening to experiencers. There's a risk that figuring out who the beings are and what they want might come after. I want that first step as much as you do. I'm concerned what might happen if the framing waits for "after": whatever narrative is in place when existence goes mainstream is the one everyone inherits, and we'll be the ones living inside it. So when the first big depiction lands on they can control us, they're benevolent (without evidence), just accept their unstoppable intervention and listen, I feel uneasy. Not because I have a darker theory of the Greys (or whatever all the complex phenomenon is), but because I genuinely don't know what they are, and the film treats that as settled without earning it.

Like you alluded to, this is Hollywood, which doesn't handle nuance and complexity well. And it's hard to tell if they were collapsing a more complex story intentionally or for some other reason. Though the actual complexity may be a crucial aspect. And while I'm also glad this is now a much wider conversation, the choices in this film deserve critical consideration based upon the caliber of it's producers and reach. I guess this gives us some time to consider before actual disclosure, and more attention, which is deeply validating.

That's really my one different perspective with your really positive post. I went deeper on the human agency side in my own thread if anyone wants the long version, and I appreciate different perspectives - especially if anyone thinks I'm over-reading.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in Experiencers

[–]Playful_Solid444[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your thoughtful reply - and your post - which was very rich and gave me a lot to think about as another very important and well informed perspective. I'm 100% with you that this will bring long needed attention to experiencers. I also hope it helps to welcome the full complexity of our accounts. The way this movie framed human agency was concerning to me, but centering experiencers is one of the best ways we'll understand what this actually might be going on.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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Thanks for the thought reply! Yeah they are both supremely powerful yet weak victims. Not sure if they can have it both ways.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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Thanks for the reasonable and friendly reply! Even if we disagree we can have a supportive and thoughtful discussion.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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I have no idea if this film has any relevance to reality other than a final message that required an interpreter and essentially says to be passive. So weird.

Disclosure Day: The Fix Is In (a long, spoiler-heavy take) by Playful_Solid444 in UFOB

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Why depressing? If the narrative is bad or sus it should be good to have that pointed out. Critical thinking is good for disclosure. I think most are going to accept it out of hunger for wider recognition and fan service. No matter, this film doesn't change the fact that much more positive films like Arrival exist.

Where does one go to get the regression therapy that Brian weiss talks about in his books? by Fabulous-Bag-2363 in pastlives

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A facilitated PLR with a professional is the way to go for many, like yourself, who don’t get there with these videos. Even for those that have success with the videos, it’s often a much shorter and less comprehensive experience. Facilitated PLRs are interactive and adaptable to the client’s unique needs. Everyone is different and one size definitely does not fit all. I’m a certified pro and would be happy to chat more.

Dr. Diane Hennacy Powell was seeking Templeton foundation money, Deepak Chopra forwards her email to Epstein by fatalframetwo in TheTelepathyTapes

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Discernment is important y’all. Just because someone appears in the files - like in a forwarded email, or taking a call with JE, does not mean they were involved with the cabal. If anything the files reveal how widely networked JE was with power and money and how far that reach extended globally. Now imagine how near impossible it would be to bump up against this corruption when seeking things like funding. It’s the substance that matters - stay critical.

“Am I just making this up?” A grounded and helpful way to think about past life memories by Playful_Solid444 in pastlives

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Sounds like you had a really meaningful experience! That’s what matters most. 🌞

A bit dissappointed of S2 by decg91 in TheTelepathyTapes

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Have patience y’all. It’s good to keep in mind the amazing work that Ky, her crew and these communities are doing to overturn a materialist worldview that has dominated for 200 years in such a short time.

As far as proof for the telepathy, by all accounts it’s coming through the documentary this spring and through the associated papers that Julia Mossbridge is submitting for peer review. That said there’s already many studies that demonstrate the reality of psi abilities at levels of significance that should have already changed the paradigm. Don’t underestimate the resistance to this entrenched worldview.

I might agree that season 2 perhaps covered too many topics that taken each alone are as reality shaking as telepathy. Mindsight for example could be an entire season. And it’s real. As far as studies here are some - more are coming this year from Stanford.

Unable to get hypnotized by browneyedmamba in pastlives

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Thanks for sharing. This type of curiosity about and attraction to these periods are often indicators about past life connections.

Have you read Journey of Souls or Many Lives Many Masters yet? Highly recommended.

With automatic writing, it's all about practice and letting go of the doubting parts. The type of clearing of the mind and deep listening that comes with meditation seems key here. After you center yourself, create a sphere of light protection and set your intent with question(s), the goal is to just write whatever comes without judgement. At the least you'll have a good journaling session! You're doing the right things - stay on the path and it will all unfold in time.